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I'd love to see Bond meet a young Mathis.
It was me. At the time I said that Doherty was like Sean Connery but with all of his masculinity removed. I still stand by that. Doherty exudes a very camp vibe both on and off screen.
I always assumed that literary Bond served in Fleming’s 30 Assault Unit or possibly the SOE during the war, where he learnt and became conditioned to kill in cold blood, and generally do the action aspect of being a 00. I understand that Fleming was always frustrated that he was not allowed to go on missions - so would be logical for his Bond alter ego to have been part of 30AU.
I also seem to remember a 1960s promotional video where they claimed he fought in the marines in Berlin in the closing stage of the war aged 17 - I’ve looked but can’t find it on YouTube.
What you think is he right for the part?
Connery without his masculinity is like a car without wheels!
It's just an issue of what his strengths are what impression he gives off as an actor. I understand he comes off a bit camp in the above clip, but he actually can do sophisticated and even sexual going from what I've seen him in. It's just that Bond requires that raw, alpha male gravitas. That element of brutishness you could say. Doherty just doesn't quite have that in my opinion.
In fairness, you could argue he's an actor at the end of the day, and how he approaches the character is what counts. But I don't think he's quite right even in that regard. I think going from The Invitation he'd actually make an interesting villain.
I wouldn't say too soft (again, he's an actor at the end of the day, and I'm sure he's capable of conveying intensity). I just don't think he gives off Bond.
What you mean by "gives off Bond"? Im not native english speaker.
It’s tricky to explain to be honest. He’s just… not quite right for the part in my opinion.
You can also explore stories like PTSD from life in the Navy and other interesting aspects of a younger Bond's development. He must have seen some dark things in the Navy. I also recently saw the film Disco Boy and that had a whole plot of the army going into a dangerous zone and a soldier having to carry out a killing and its impact on him and it was seriously interesting stuff and had a cool night vision scene which Denis Villeneuve already did something similar with Sicario. It is worth checking out Disco Boy alone because it is shot by the genius of Helene Louvart
Ok there is something that say "no" to you.
Say it.... It's not hard to explain. There's just a list of censored words you can't say on here.
I'll try. Bond needs to radiate confidence. He's a military man, capable of keeping his own when everything turns against him. It's his stamina and willpower that can pull him through when others give up. Sure, in his early days Bond doesn't get it right all the time, he doesn't have the experience, but he had to fend for himself at an early age, constantly fighting for recognition. He's also freedom-oriented. As in, he is loyal to his country, to the mission, but does it in his own way.
Doherty in no way exudes any of that. He looks like a pampered boy tbh. He's got a bit of a streak to him, and does look like a young connery. Just without the edge.
😂 um… ok….
I’ve seen him in a couple of things and he’s not as camp as in the above video (like I said he’s an actor. All that matters is how he plays any part, and it’s often the case the actor can be very different to their characters).
I’d say there’s something quite cold about the sophistication he conveys in The Invitation, which is great for the role but not for Bond. Same for I think High Fidelity. He doesn’t have Connery’s wryness or twinkle behind the eyes (and no, certainly not the same sense of alpha male charisma or that edge).
Very true. Those are certainly characteristics I would want Bond to have. But then, this is a new version of the character, so who's to say the new Bond has to have those qualities? And it's debatable whether all the Bonds we've had thus far have possessed them. I'm not sure I'd describe Roger Moore as 'brutish', for instance.
I'd say Moore actually did have a harder edge to him, or at least could convey that. Even that formidable, gentlemanly side to his Bond could be sardonic.
I don't think the next Bond has to be hyper masculine incidentally (it'd be strange if the next Bond came off as a gym bro, for instance, and go too far down that route and you probably get a Bond henchman). I can imagine the next Bond being a bit more intense or bringing out something different, but still being able to convey the harder edged element of the character as well as the charisma needed. Still, I think Doherty's wrong for the part whatever angle you look at him from.
The Deadline piece says that Amazon want 'an actor who hails from the British isles', but then says that 'Yes, they want a Brit to play Bond' - but while Ireland is one of the British Isles ( a simple geographical term), the Irish obviously aren't Brits (a national identity). That's caused quite a bit of trouble in the past... Presumably, Deadline used the terms interchangeably, without realising, and Irish actors haven't been ruled out.
They shouldnt be rule Irish actors out. Pierce was/is Irish.
What is the fascination with casting an actor who looks like Connery? I really don't understand it.
It's a bit like Streisand cloning her dog:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-43212343
I think Amazon would do everything to make Bond fans happy. They don't have EON's luxury of tweaking things...like the gunbarrel yet.
I agree. Amazon is gonna want to keep traditional elements in this film. Which now makes me think they won't go for an origins story. Cause other than Bond himself the only other character that could really work in an origin story is M. I dont see how traditional characters like Q and Moneypenny work in an origin story.
Me personally would love a story that explores Bonds time in the navy