EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Thanks for the background. I'd forgotten.

    I'd love to see Bond meet a young Mathis.
  • 007HallY wrote: »
    One of my favourite quotes on these forums (I'm sorry as I have no idea who wrote it) is someone who replied to a post that said Thomas Doherty reminded them of Sean Connery. The reply went something like 'yes, but without the masculinity'.

    It was me. At the time I said that Doherty was like Sean Connery but with all of his masculinity removed. I still stand by that. Doherty exudes a very camp vibe both on and off screen.

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    The article doesn't mention the latest novels so I'm guessing there won't be SPECTRE this time.
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    Not really a fan with the stuff about Bond's naval history; in fact I think the whole Bond in the Navy thing is probably one of the biggest misconceptions people have about the character.

    Bond wasn't actually a part of the Royal Navy; he was RNVR Special Branch (in other words, Naval Intelligence). In Thunderball, he is described as chocolate sailor; that is, a sailor who didn't do much sailing and just looked good in uniform. M says in YOLT that Bond's work pre and post war was in the same department, and his naval title was due to the secrecy of his work. In addition, he worked with M before the war in a gambling job where he first met Mathis. Any serious adaptation with Bond swabbing decks or manning submarines isn't as faithful as it claims.

    If any modern equivalent exists it'd probably be in the Intelligence division of the SBS or something like that where he would have a heavy connection to the spy side of things.

    I always assumed that literary Bond served in Fleming’s 30 Assault Unit or possibly the SOE during the war, where he learnt and became conditioned to kill in cold blood, and generally do the action aspect of being a 00. I understand that Fleming was always frustrated that he was not allowed to go on missions - so would be logical for his Bond alter ego to have been part of 30AU.

    I also seem to remember a 1960s promotional video where they claimed he fought in the marines in Berlin in the closing stage of the war aged 17 - I’ve looked but can’t find it on YouTube.
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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    007HallY wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    My only question is Doherty good enough actor to play Bond?

    I guess he's good enough an actor, but that's not the point. It just depends on if he's right for the part.

    What you think is he right for the part?
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    007HallY wrote: »
    One of my favourite quotes on these forums (I'm sorry as I have no idea who wrote it) is someone who replied to a post that said Thomas Doherty reminded them of Sean Connery. The reply went something like 'yes, but without the masculinity'.

    It was me. At the time I said that Doherty was like Sean Connery but with all of his masculinity removed. I still stand by that. Doherty exudes a very camp vibe both on and off screen.


    Connery without his masculinity is like a car without wheels!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    It could be said that Denis Villeneuves early career is not dissimilar to the early Bond directors. Would he be considered a quintessential Bond director choice?
  • edited 12:10pm Posts: 5,985
    MSL49 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    My only question is Doherty good enough actor to play Bond?

    I guess he's good enough an actor, but that's not the point. It just depends on if he's right for the part.

    What you think is he right for the part?

    It's just an issue of what his strengths are what impression he gives off as an actor. I understand he comes off a bit camp in the above clip, but he actually can do sophisticated and even sexual going from what I've seen him in. It's just that Bond requires that raw, alpha male gravitas. That element of brutishness you could say. Doherty just doesn't quite have that in my opinion.
    007HallY wrote: »
    One of my favourite quotes on these forums (I'm sorry as I have no idea who wrote it) is someone who replied to a post that said Thomas Doherty reminded them of Sean Connery. The reply went something like 'yes, but without the masculinity'.

    It was me. At the time I said that Doherty was like Sean Connery but with all of his masculinity removed. I still stand by that. Doherty exudes a very camp vibe both on and off screen.


    In fairness, you could argue he's an actor at the end of the day, and how he approaches the character is what counts. But I don't think he's quite right even in that regard. I think going from The Invitation he'd actually make an interesting villain.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    So Doherty is too "soft" for Bond?
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    So Doherty is too "soft" for Bond?

    I wouldn't say too soft (again, he's an actor at the end of the day, and I'm sure he's capable of conveying intensity). I just don't think he gives off Bond.
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