Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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    Well, every actor needs a franchise. If it's not Bond, other producers will get him.
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    Well, every actor needs a franchise. If it's not Bond, other producers will get him.

    Depends on the actor. I can imagine if you’re Jacob Elordi or Harris Dickinson it’s not worth committing ten years to Bond (incidentally that’s what really separates Bond from a lot of other franchises these actors could star in. It’s a definitive long term job. They’d inevitably lose out on some project with maybe a big director or something they feel passionate about. Or again, something that could get them an Oscar or whatever down the line). A lot of actors simply won’t want to do it, and it’s seemingly the case that many now famous, at the time up and coming actors turned down an offer to try for Bond.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Bond has been recast many times, what you guys think when has been the best pool of candidates?
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Bond has been recast many times, what you guys think when has been the best pool of candidates?

    I only know that 20 years ago we had better candidates.
  • edited September 10 Posts: 5,913
    I suspect there’ll be a better shortlist of choices (as in those who actually audition) this time round compared to, say, the OHMSS auditions in ‘68 which didn’t look great. There were some pretty odd potentials who tested in ‘05 too (were Goran Višnjić or Sam Worthington really worth testing?)

    I guess the ‘86 group is pretty good as you had Brosnan, Dalton, and Neill. But we never fully know who the potentials are before a point. And ultimately only a few will realistically stand out enough to get to the final lot. It’ll be interesting getting names for this one at some point (usually with these big roles the final three names or whatever will wind up in Variety or Deadline. I don’t think it’ll be a showdown between big up and coming names like Elordi vs Dickinson. My guess is there’ll be a lesser known actor in there, possibly more TV oriented, a more established character actor with a film/tv career behind them -albeit not a star yet/connected to another franchise - who’ll eventually get the role and was probably always the favourite. Maybe another vaguely recognisable name as a second choice).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 10 Posts: 19,047
    007HallY wrote: »
    The indication is he’s got a good career ahead of him. I’m looking forward to Frankenstein. If anything I can imagine him outright turning down a Bond audition offer. Sounds a bit strange, but why would he sacrifice the ability to commit to films like Frankenstein or even Saltburn at this point in his career? He’d have so much more freedom to explore different roles - hell even maybe get an Oscar nod with the right film - if he wasn’t tied to Bond. There’s probably more benefit to him saying no to it. To a lesser extent Harris Dickinson might be in that boat too, or could be at some point.

    Yeah I tend to think the same: for Elordi right now it looks like it's all taking off. Hypothetically, if you were him and were offered 007, would you take it? I really don't know- it can be the springboard to A list, but equally you're locked in and will forever be associated with it, and if you're love with the craft of acting I can see how that might not be appealing. And if your career is looking up right now, do you even need it? I think it's arguable that although Craig was doing pretty well in the mid 2000s, he is now bigger than he would have been without Bond.
    I guess you have to judge it as Craig did: just base it on 'is the script good?' And starring in a Villeneuve film has got to be quite appealing too.
    007HallY wrote: »
    May even explain the Variety article, although this is a bit speculative and could be wrong. Holland, Elordi, and Dickinson may well have already either ruled themselves out (this seems to be the case for Holland) or have said no to a potential screen test quite definitively. The names leaked, all being big or up and coming actors, but either the details got lost in the pipeline, or their names were being used to drum up publicity for Bond without giving away who the eventual actor will be.

    Yeah good point, maybe.
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    Who's got the time these days! It's not a side-gig. You're basically front of house.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I suspect there’ll be a better shortlist of choices (as in those who actually audition) this time round compared to, say, the OHMSS auditions in ‘68 which didn’t look great. There were some pretty odd potentials who tested in ‘05 too (were Goran Višnjić or Sam Worthington really worth testing?)

    I guess the ‘86 group is pretty good as you had Brosnan, Dalton, and Neill. But we never fully know who the potentials are before a point. And ultimately only a few will realistically stand out enough to get to the final lot. It’ll be interesting getting names for this one at some point (usually with these big roles the final three names or whatever will wind up in Variety or Deadline. I don’t think it’ll be a showdown between big up and coming names like Elordi vs Dickinson. My guess is there’ll be a lesser known actor in there, possibly more TV oriented, a more established character actor with a film/tv career behind them -albeit not a star yet/connected to another franchise - who’ll eventually get the role and was probably always the favourite. Maybe another vaguely recognisable name as a second choice).
    Visnjic is interesting he definetly had the look and has had good career even without Bond.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Višnjić is interesting; I wasn't sure about him until I saw him in an episode of Doctor Who, funnily enough, where he easily outshone everyone including the lead actor of the show, the Doctor herself. I don't know if I'd say he's on the Bond sort of level, but he's definitely a TV star at the very least.
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    Question: could Frankenstein be Elordi's Layer Cake, or it's just too big a film?
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    007HallY wrote: »
    My guess is there’ll be a lesser known actor in there, possibly more TV oriented, a more established character actor with a film/tv career behind them -albeit not a star yet/connected to another franchise - who’ll eventually get the role and was probably always the favourite. Maybe another vaguely recognisable name as a second choice).

    I don't think there's an unknown favorite. Who could it be? Callum Turner? He's already worked with the producer and knows him personally.

    Jack O'Connell?

    Tom Bateman?

    I still think Elordi and Dicikinson are the front runners, even if they don't end up getting the role.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    My guess is there’ll be a lesser known actor in there, possibly more TV oriented, a more established character actor with a film/tv career behind them -albeit not a star yet/connected to another franchise - who’ll eventually get the role and was probably always the favourite. Maybe another vaguely recognisable name as a second choice).

    I don't think there's an unknown favorite. Who could it be? Callum Turner? He's already worked with the producer and knows him personally.

    Jack O'Connell?

    Tom Bateman?

    I still think Elordi and Dicikinson are the front runners, even if they don't end up getting the role.

    Callum Turner would be my guess. I can easily imagine him being a choice they’ve had in mind for a while. It could be someone else, but my instinct is he’d be very good.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    007HallY wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    My guess is there’ll be a lesser known actor in there, possibly more TV oriented, a more established character actor with a film/tv career behind them -albeit not a star yet/connected to another franchise - who’ll eventually get the role and was probably always the favourite. Maybe another vaguely recognisable name as a second choice).

    I don't think there's an unknown favorite. Who could it be? Callum Turner? He's already worked with the producer and knows him personally.

    Jack O'Connell?

    Tom Bateman?

    I still think Elordi and Dicikinson are the front runners, even if they don't end up getting the role.

    Callum Turner would be my guess. I can easily imagine him being a choice they’ve had in mind for a while. It could be someone else, but my instinct is he’d be very good.

    Yes. Plus, Callum Turner looks like Dalton a bit.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I think Leo Suter would be the best. He's young but still has a classic appeal about him.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I think Leo Suter would be the best. He's young but still has a classic appeal about him.

    Indeed…
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Sutter would be a good choice.
    I think he’s got the right amount of fame.
  • edited September 11 Posts: 5,913
    I can understand why people like the idea of Suter, but I think he’d be an odd choice for Bond in many ways. It’s subtle admittedly. Best way I can describe it is he gives off the wrong impression from what I’ve seen of him onscreen and during interviews. More ‘nice Oxford boy, I used to row with him at University’ if that makes sense (I think that explains why he’s been cast as Lynley), rather than having that raw, lone wolf magnetism/charisma that is Bond. He’s got a good voice and has a good physique but I’ve always thought he comes off as a bit forgettable/limited as an actor. Not bad I guess but I think if he were picked they’d be doing something consciously different with the cinematic character (maybe that’s what they want/is needed though). It could be him I suppose, but his CV is a bit limited so he’d actually be on the more unknown side for a Bond. To his credit I can see him maybe voicing Bond in a video game or radio thing (or maybe as an Alex Travelyan/Gustav Graves type villain for a film). But as the in the flesh, onscreen representation of this franchise? Not sure. I’d give him the benefit of the doubt if it were him though.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Benny wrote: »
    Sutter would be a good choice.
    I think he’s got the right amount of fame.

    Who? ;)
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    How is Lynley? Any way for the US to watch yet?
  • edited September 11 Posts: 5,913
    LucknFate wrote: »
    How is Lynley? Any way for the US to watch yet?

    It’s on BritBox in the US. Can’t say what the series is like beyond clips as it’ll be out later in the Autumn in the UK/on the BBC.

    Not sure what to make of it. Looks sort of Broadchurch-esque I guess, but I feel the UK has so many of these types of police shows which are the same but different (two mismatched British police officers - one is usually from a city or more upper class and often the fish out of water, and the other is either from a less metropolitan area or is working class or whatever. They clash and solve murders together in some specific UK town that’s not London). I know it’s a book series and was previously a show on the BBC but it’s not something I have any concept of.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    edited September 11 Posts: 564
    mtm wrote: »
    Višnjić is interesting; I wasn't sure about him until I saw him in an episode of Doctor Who, funnily enough, where he easily outshone everyone including the lead actor of the show, the Doctor herself. I don't know if I'd say he's on the Bond sort of level, but he's definitely a TV star at the very least.
    He was in the Hellraiser reboot too which i liked.

  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    I have been thinking about what I'm about to say for a while, I think it's quite an exciting idea. (I'm ready for the backlash, lol)
    In fact some of my friends who I have explained this to think it's a rubbish idea, so please do feel free to join them...
    If I was in charge of the new Bond era (some of you will be glad I'm not in a moment) this is what I would do.
    Instead of tying an actor to a multi film contract I would do a series of one and dones. I would recruit a solid team of actors for Q, M, Moneypenny, Tanner and have them as consistent touch stones. But then have a new Bond each film as a good old fashioned stand-alone mission.
    It would avoid the series becoming obsessed with having an arc to tie together. Therefore the series is always accessible as a jumping in point for new fans.
    It would allow the marketing for each film to always be a big event that invites speculation and excitement around who the actor will be. Bond will always be talked about in between films.
    It could mean not having to wait a lifetime between films to allow the actor to recover or work on passion projects.
    A director could bring a favoured actor with them, Nolan and Cillian Murphy for example.
    It would mean age wouldn't be such a barrier to the choice of actor. We could have Fassbender or Hardy doing a Lazenby.
    I don't believe it would confuse or alienate the audience any more than killing the character off already has.
    Also I think the period between OHMSS and LALD where we had 3 different actors in 3 consecutive films was creativity very interesting.
    Anyway, I'll get my coat!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I’m not going to elaborate, but will just say, not even remotely viable…
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    I have been thinking about what I'm about to say for a while, I think it's quite an exciting idea. (I'm ready for the backlash, lol)
    In fact some of my friends who I have explained this to think it's a rubbish idea, so please do feel free to join them...
    If I was in charge of the new Bond era (some of you will be glad I'm not in a moment) this is what I would do.
    Instead of tying an actor to a multi film contract I would do a series of one and dones. I would recruit a solid team of actors for Q, M, Moneypenny, Tanner and have them as consistent touch stones. But then have a new Bond each film as a good old fashioned stand-alone mission.
    It would avoid the series becoming obsessed with having an arc to tie together. Therefore the series is always accessible as a jumping in point for new fans.
    It would allow the marketing for each film to always be a big event that invites speculation and excitement around who the actor will be. Bond will always be talked about in between films.
    It could mean not having to wait a lifetime between films to allow the actor to recover or work on passion projects.
    A director could bring a favoured actor with them, Nolan and Cillian Murphy for example.
    It would mean age wouldn't be such a barrier to the choice of actor. We could have Fassbender or Hardy doing a Lazenby.
    I don't believe it would confuse or alienate the audience any more than killing the character off already has.
    Also I think the period between OHMSS and LALD where we had 3 different actors in 3 consecutive films was creativity very interesting.
    Anyway, I'll get my coat!

    I proposed something similar a while ago, on several different bases. For one - kill Bond each time. Make it a regular thing and don't break that chain until it's time to surprise people. For another - rather as you indicated - bounce between Period Bond to Present Day to Early Agent to Quite Mature (and have Pierce, Tim - and with his recent health announcement remove George from the list - each do a film or two)
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    Unrelated, but I just found it amusing that the actress who plays the working-class cop in the new Lynley series, is the granddaughter of a literal billionaire.
  • Posts: 2,369
    Isn't acting in the UK a posh thing?
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    It does seem to have been dominated by posh people in recent years.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That is quite funny given the set up to the show.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Since62 wrote: »
    cwl007 wrote: »
    I have been thinking about what I'm about to say for a while, I think it's quite an exciting idea. (I'm ready for the backlash, lol)
    In fact some of my friends who I have explained this to think it's a rubbish idea, so please do feel free to join them...
    If I was in charge of the new Bond era (some of you will be glad I'm not in a moment) this is what I would do.
    Instead of tying an actor to a multi film contract I would do a series of one and dones. I would recruit a solid team of actors for Q, M, Moneypenny, Tanner and have them as consistent touch stones. But then have a new Bond each film as a good old fashioned stand-alone mission.
    It would avoid the series becoming obsessed with having an arc to tie together. Therefore the series is always accessible as a jumping in point for new fans.
    It would allow the marketing for each film to always be a big event that invites speculation and excitement around who the actor will be. Bond will always be talked about in between films.
    It could mean not having to wait a lifetime between films to allow the actor to recover or work on passion projects.
    A director could bring a favoured actor with them, Nolan and Cillian Murphy for example.
    It would mean age wouldn't be such a barrier to the choice of actor. We could have Fassbender or Hardy doing a Lazenby.
    I don't believe it would confuse or alienate the audience any more than killing the character off already has.
    Also I think the period between OHMSS and LALD where we had 3 different actors in 3 consecutive films was creativity very interesting.
    Anyway, I'll get my coat!

    I proposed something similar a while ago, on several different bases. For one - kill Bond each time. Make it a regular thing and don't break that chain until it's time to surprise people. For another - rather as you indicated - bounce between Period Bond to Present Day to Early Agent to Quite Mature (and have Pierce, Tim - and with his recent health announcement remove George from the list - each do a film or two)

    Yes, good shout on Dalton or Brosnan as a one off film, older Bond. I hadn't thought of that.
  • edited 10:46am Posts: 5,913
    I think a big part of Bond is the fact that the actor is in the role long term, and they have the responsibility of the character in a sense. You don't really want a series of one offs that dilute the franchise (I think Amazon especially will be hesitant to do that as it'd rock the boat too much for now).
    It does seem to have been dominated by posh people in recent years.

    I always find it interesting how Bond seems to be played by actors who have completely different backgrounds to the character. We never get the likes of Tom Hiddleston or Benedict Cumberbatch doing it, which would make sense in many ways (ex boarding school, upper middle class types). The majority are from working class backgrounds, although by the time they become Bond they have a not insignificant level of success (especially financially) in their careers.

    Might be coincidence to some extent (I don't think they'd start rejecting actors based on their background) but I think there's something to it on some level. That sense of irony some actors might naturally have towards the character where others wouldn't. I think having a Tom Hiddleston play Bond would come off quite odd.
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