Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • edited 1:15pm Posts: 5,899
    Looks factor into an actor's presence, at least to some extent. It's pointless getting too hung up on ears, noses or jawlines, but an actor's face is part of how they come across onscreen.

    I'd say, for example, Craig wouldn't be the same actor if he didn't have his striking blue eyes and distinctive, weathered features. Along with his physicality and performance choices you get that overall image of his Bond. You can apply that to the other actors too. Honestly, I would say for Bond it's actually a benefit that the actor have something striking about their face. They have to be good looking, although not necessarily in a generic male model type way.

    I wouldn't dismiss O'Connor based on his looks though. I actually don't think he's extraordinarily left field for a Bond potential (he's got quite sleek features - the sharp cheekbones and jaw etc. It helps give him that enigmatic vibe in La Chimera. He's got bigger ears, but honestly just straighten his curly hair and give him a shave and I don't think he'd be far off a traditional looking Bond. I doubt it'll be him, and I think other potentials are better at conveying that sense of sex appeal and natural charisma, but I don't think he'd be an out of the box choice).
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 1:44pm Posts: 2,864
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Not what I claimed him to be. The best candidate is the one that fits a new vision that we won't be privy to until hopefully the first trailer. So that could be OConnor for all we know. So no one should be claiming to be the best candidate unless they've seen the script.

    Yes. I agree @LucknFate It's what I've been saying. It all depends on the direction and new vision. After Brosnan's Bond was super-suave, people found it hard to envisage Craig's face in it. But immediately CR's first teaser came out, the new direction was clear...no gadgets and all that. It's the same thing now. Because people are now used to Craig's Bond, they find it difficult to see any other actor in it, until he establishes his own style and we're are blown away, yet again and he instantly becomes the new favorite Bond of a lot of people....Lol.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Many of them looked very unbondian in their test. Beard, long hair and clothing. Is it a factor?
  • Posts: 2,365
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Not what I claimed him to be. The best candidate is the one that fits a new vision that we won't be privy to until hopefully the first trailer. So that could be OConnor for all we know. So no one should be claiming to be the best candidate unless they've seen the script.

    Unless James Bond is Fleming's long-lost brother, I don't know what script can help him.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    I can't even begin to approach what that could possibly relate to or even mean. If you only exist on this forum to argue that Bond is irrelevant or worse, how have you not been defined as a troll and banned? Comments like the above are literal nonsense.
  • edited 2:28pm Posts: 2,365
    I'll put it another way, the vision in which the actor can work best may not be the best vision either.
    Anyway the next Bond movie is going to be different enough with Amazon and Villeneuve. Do we need a different actor too?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited 3:02pm Posts: 3,348
    The pretty substantial fan backlash against Tom Cruise (5ft 7, brunette) playing Jack Reacher (6ft 5, blond) shows that a lot of fans actually don't want a radical departure from the image of the character they know. The same happened when Craig was cast as Bond. Yet CR swept away the vast majority of that Craig Is Not Bond malarkey pretty much from the first showing. That could happen again, despite any initial misgivings, right? Personally, at this point I can't see O' Connor, a guy who (to lower the tone for a minute) looks like a Marseille spiv with jug ears, playing Bond - but if he got the gig and knocked it out of the park, might it not silence any such criticism the way that CR did for Dan? We have to give the new guy (O' Connor, Turner, ATJ or whoever it turns out to be) the benefit of the doubt til we've seen the actual film, no?
  • Posts: 2,365
    I will watch the movie no matter who the actor is. Even if it's Tom Holland.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited 3:16pm Posts: 3,348
    Yes, indeed. For me, Holland would be way down at the bottom of any of the suggested actors we've discussed on here, but Craig and CR prove that you can have misgivings about the choice of actor, yet he could still make a fantastic film and be a brilliant Bond.
  • Posts: 5,899
    At the end of the day we'll only get a true sense of why the actor was picked when we see the film. I think we'll get a good pick though, someone who can lead the next era of films and represent the franchise (I don't think we're in for a Henry Cavill or Tom Holland).
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Yes, agreed. I hate to be fair to Amazon, obvs, but so far they've demonstrated that they do actually want to put appropriate people in place. It'd be self-sabotage of the highest order if they went against that with the choice of actor to play Bond himself.
  • Posts: 2,365
    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood. It's not like they want Jason Statham.

    The same could be said for the flavors of the month we talked about.

    They should focus on choosing the best Bond possible. You can't go wrong if you want a good Bond.
  • Posts: 5,899
    In fairness I think it's debatable how seriously they were considering Holland (it's possible the Dickinson, Elordi, and Holland leak was to drum ups a bit of publicity and maybe even throw people off a bit). I'd be shocked if it happened. At this point I'd even be surprised if Elordi or Dickinson got it, although they're not unreasonable actors to consider.

    But yeah, that's what casting's all about. Finding the best actor possible. It won't only be about the auditions, but how committed/on page they are with the new creative direction, how well they'll represent the franchise publicly etc.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I tend to believe that that following the casting of Craig, an unconventionally handsome actor, the pendulum will swing the other way and a more traditionally handsome actor will get the role.

    Yes I know "traditionally handsome" handsome is subjective.
  • edited 5:16pm Posts: 5,899
    No idea. My instinct is it's just not how it works and there's no pendulum. It's just about who's the best of a bunch of actors, however wide that net is. I don't think they'll necessarily even be thinking about who's conventional or not for Bond. It's a bit misleading sometimes. Even under Cubby I don't think they ever had a list which said the actor needed black hair, or they needed a very specific look. It's always more instinctual and based on who's available. Personally, I got the sense the producers were quite surprised at the backlash towards Craig's casting, as from their point of view he probably was the best pick and even the safest option. I don't think he was picked as some conscious subversion of Bond, but was someone who they thought would be the best choice based on his charisma and screen presence. I think it'll be the same this time.

    Honestly though, there'll be people who'll complain about the next actor initially no matter what.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood.

    I'm not sure he is. If he's not playing Spider Man then every film he makes tanks.
  • Posts: 2,365
    mtm wrote: »
    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood.

    I'm not sure he is. If he's not playing Spider Man then every film he makes tanks.

    Well, tell that to Nolan who hired him.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,024
    mtm wrote: »
    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood.

    I'm not sure he is. If he's not playing Spider Man then every film he makes tanks.

    Well, tell that to Nolan who hired him.

    Not quite the same thing, he's not the lead in that.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood.

    I'm not sure he is. If he's not playing Spider Man then every film he makes tanks.

    Well, tell that to Nolan who hired him.

    Not quite the same thing, he's not the lead in that.

    He also hired Matt Damon for the lead, which is questionable.
  • Posts: 2,365
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood.

    I'm not sure he is. If he's not playing Spider Man then every film he makes tanks.

    Well, tell that to Nolan who hired him.

    Not quite the same thing, he's not the lead in that.

    It's worse, that means Nolan thinks he's a good actor. If he's good enough for Nolan, he could be good enough for Villeneuve.

    The thing is, it might not seem like a silly idea to them.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    talos7 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood.

    I'm not sure he is. If he's not playing Spider Man then every film he makes tanks.

    Well, tell that to Nolan who hired him.

    Not quite the same thing, he's not the lead in that.

    He also hired Matt Damon for the lead, which is questionable.

    I think Damon is one of the best actors working.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited 8:43pm Posts: 8,612
    talos7 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The thing is, Holland is very well regarded in Hollywood.

    I'm not sure he is. If he's not playing Spider Man then every film he makes tanks.

    Well, tell that to Nolan who hired him.

    Not quite the same thing, he's not the lead in that.

    He also hired Matt Damon for the lead, which is questionable.

    I think Damon is one of the best actors working.

    I didn’t criticize his acting abilities; but he’s horribly miscast in this film. This would have been a great, post Bond film for Daniel.

    From an American, Damon is too quintessentially American for the role. Just my take
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