I've never noticed that before...

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    More something I've never seen before rather than never noticed(!) but here's a BBC spy drama from 1966- it opens with a very familiar shot of a hotel on Miami beach as you'll see:



    Except it's not actually the shot from Goldfinger! It's a completely different take, for one thing look out for the white car driving in the car park in front of the hotel.

  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Fascinating! Wow they are different. In the black and white version a busy street with traffic and cars. In GF not a single car on the road. Yet they both swoop by the hotel and both end with a male jumping into the pool.

    Either the Black and White version is an homage and they filmed the exact same sequence or they somehow used an alternate take from the GF film? I wonder which it is.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'd say it's an alternate take, sometimes shots from movies would end up as stock footage for other productions. The shot of the exploding helicopter from FRWL made it into two different Dr Who stories in the 60s and 70s.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 5 Posts: 19,016
    Here’s a thing I hadn’t really thought about before: does 007 sound odd to Americans?

    I just noticed that Americans and Brits differ in the way they say numbers: to us Brits 3,400 is ‘three thousand, four hundred’, whilst I think an American would say ‘thirty four hundred’, is that right? Meanwhile, if we had a phone number that started something like 012449, we’d likely say ‘oh one two double four nine’, whilst an American might say ‘zero one two four four nine’. We like to say ‘double’ when there’s two of the same number in a sequence whilst I don’t think that’s a thing in the US.
    So does ‘double oh seven’ sound quite odd to American ears?
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    @mtm thats an interesting observation, yet more of a personal opinion between members rather than something that happens with the Bond series.
    Please try and keep the topic to things not noticed within the Bond films.
    Refer to the OP if need be.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Please move my post to the suitable thread as I'd be curious to chat to anyone who finds it interesting.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Ah you can read my posts!
    I’m not sure where to move your post, or who’ll find it interesting.
    Maybe @007HallY will.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    I found it interesting, only because my last name has two consecutive "O"s and I always thought I sounded cool saying "b, r, double-o, k". As an American, that's the only time I do that, however. I think MTM is on to something, that "double-o seven" is uniquely British English.
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    Benny wrote: »
    Ah you can read my posts!
    I’m not sure where to move your post, or who’ll find it interesting.
    Maybe @007HallY will.

    Um... ok...

    Not sure it's really my area to be honest.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That's interesting, thanks. I'd never quite realised it but I guess it sounds quite unique to some overseas folks whereas it's more or less the natural way to say 007 in the UK (we don't really say 'zero' a lot, and 'nought' has slipped away a bit). I guess its iconic status has meant one doesn't really think about it either way though.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Again nothing to do with the Bond series.
    More of a personal observation.
    I don’t care if you want to ignore my posts @mtm
    But if you want to remain a part of these forums, I suggest you don’t ignore me.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited September 5 Posts: 2,128
    Benny wrote: »
    Again nothing to do with the Bond series.
    More of a personal observation.
    I don’t care if you want to ignore my posts @mtm
    But if you want to remain a part of these forums, I suggest you don’t ignore me.

    You need to relax. No one ignored you. You have like a personal problem and are threatening to abuse your power. Not cool. We are literally discussing the Bond series. On a Bond forum. MTM even replied to you directly. You look crazy. I'm taking screenshots in case you try anything against me now. I should also be able to report moderator posts.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Isn't there a general "Bond Questions Thread"? I think mtm's summary "So does ‘double oh seven’ sound quite odd to American ears?" would be ok in the context. We have whole threads about subjects that have much less to do with the franchise.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Again nothing to do with the Bond series.
    More of a personal observation.
    I don’t care if you want to ignore my posts @mtm
    But if you want to remain a part of these forums, I suggest you don’t ignore me.

    You need to relax. No one ignored you. You have like a personal problem and are threatening to abuse your power. Not cool. We are literally discussing the Bond series. On a Bond forum. MTM even replied to you directly. You look crazy. I'm taking screenshots in case you try anything against me now. I should also be able to report moderator posts.

    Yes, please take it up with the international interrnet forum ‘I’m not happy’ council.
    They should get back to you shortly.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    What a child. I've lost all respect for you. Alerting other mods now. Grow up.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I merely told @mtm to post in the correct thread. What may I ask does it have to do with you?
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    If this discussion continues, it shouldn't be in this thread, and it shouldn't just be between us. Have a good one.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Please do, tell me where I’ve gone wrong
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Benny wrote: »
    Please do, tell me where I’ve gone wrong

    I will if I may, purely as an observer. (Thank you Felix)
    " But if you want to remain a part of these forums, I suggest you don't ignore me" isn't a good look from a moderator, particularly when you are here to police such comments from others.
    Just some friendly feedback.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Benny wrote: »
    Again nothing to do with the Bond series.
    More of a personal observation.
    I don’t care if you want to ignore my posts @mtm
    But if you want to remain a part of these forums, I suggest you don’t ignore me.

    They say the best people to trust with power are the last ones who seek it.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    At the risk of somehow becoming involved: guys, is a discussion on that level really necessary? I quite frankly don't think so.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    The 4k transfers are allowing me to catch the most minor details. When M gives Bond the contact on a piece of paper in the mission briefing in YOLT, you can briefly see a fly buzzing around In front of M.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    Alright I feel like I had to have known this at some point. This can’t be the first time I’m noticing that when we first see Tiger Tanaka on screen in his underground office, his rug is… a tiger.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    The problem I have is that @mtm has openly said he ignores my posts.
    I don’t demand his respect. However he should follow the forums terns and conditions.
    By deciding that a request by a mod doesn’t carry weight because you don’t like them is not a get out of jail free card. It doesn’t give you control to do whatever you wish.
    There are no international laws that cover a forum. But the terms and conditions we all agreed to when we joined up do.
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Isn't there a general "Bond Questions Thread"? I think mtm's summary "So does ‘double oh seven’ sound quite odd to American ears?" would be ok in the context. We have whole threads about subjects that have much less to do with the franchise.

    That would be a perfectly good thread, to raise such a question.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I unreservedly apologise for my post above thanking LucknFate for his response.
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    I feel silly for noticing it only now, but there you go: when there's a main villain who is more than a capable fighter, or looks like he could take on Bond mano a mano, then he doesn't have a particularly formidable henchman. When he is not physically menacing or capable, or simply not particularly physically threatening, then he's generally accompanied by a powerhouse of a henchman. Pleasance's Blofeld has Hans, but Savalas' Blofeld only has mooks. Trevelyan being a former 00, still in his prime, he has Onatopp, true, but she's more like a level boss and dispatched way before the climax. There's a few exceptions to it, like in QOS, but they confirm the role. In any case, having Greene fight Bond in the climax was a conscious subversion of expectations and, as much as I like the movie, I don't think it quite worked.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Irma Bunt.
  • Posts: 16,078
    echo wrote: »
    Irma Bunt.

    She's not a physical match for Bond. Blofeld is.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,371
    Well, she knew how to handle a submachine gun. Plus, they could have easily written her as possessing the necessary physical prowess.
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