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Would you rather see Sir Tom Jones in concert OR Sir Paul McCartney and Wings in concert?

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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    edited September 2 Posts: 538
    007HallY wrote: »
    Both I can imagine being very similar. I've never thought Brolin's screen-tests were all that impressive (as has been said I suspect it wasn't so much a case of him being a shoe-in for the role, but was a potential backup if Moore didn't return). I guess I'd take Gavin, but I think it was for the best we got Connery and Moore back.
    What if Brosnan, Dalton or Neill in OP?

  • 007HallY007HallY
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Both I can imagine being very similar. I've never thought Brolin's screen-tests were all that impressive (as has been said I suspect it wasn't so much a case of him being a shoe-in for the role, but was a potential backup if Moore didn't return). I guess I'd take Gavin, but I think it was for the best we got Connery and Moore back.
    What if Brosnan, Dalton or Neill in OP?

    That's an interesting set of what ifs! I think for all of them you have to factor in NSNA. I guess Brosnan would have been a relative unknown in '83.

    I think all would have struggled under the circumstances, and I think it was wise bringing back Moore to help maximise the success of OP.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I should revive our What if Thread, some might have new thoughts and ideas.

    But back to this thread, I am not sure the series survives Lazenby followed by Gavin. Can Moore save the series in 1973 after two one-offs? Debatable, does LALD even get made if DAF doesn't prove a hit?

    I am choosing Brolin for OP even though that takes away one of my favourite Moore films. Also, did anyone else notice that some of the beats in that fight scene with Brolin call back to the fight with Che Che in Tracy's hotel room?

  • Escalus5Escalus5
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    Gavin was never much of an actor, even in classics such as PSYCHO and SPARTACUS, but if you want to get a sense of what he would've been like as Bond, check out the 1968 Italian-French spy thriller OSS 117: DOUBLE AGENT (which co-stars Curd Jurgens and Luciana Paluzzi). Unfortunately, I don't think any version exists with Gavin's voice on the soundtrack, but he looked good and is convincing in the action scenes. I'm certain that Broccoli and Saltzman decided to cast him based on this film.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    007HallY wrote: »
    That's an interesting set of what ifs! I think for all of them you have to factor in NSNA. I guess Brosnan would have been a relative unknown in '83.

    In 1983 Brosnan was in his first season as TV detective Remington Steele so he wouldn't have been available yet.
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    Gavin was never much of an actor, even in classics such as PSYCHO and SPARTACUS, but if you want to get a sense of what he would've been like as Bond, check out the 1968 Italian-French spy thriller OSS 117: DOUBLE AGENT (which co-stars Curd Jurgens and Luciana Paluzzi). Unfortunately, I don't think any version exists with Gavin's voice on the soundtrack, but he looked good and is convincing in the action scenes. I'm certain that Broccoli and Saltzman decided to cast him based on this film.

    Kino Lorber has released 5 OSS 117 films as a Blu-Ray set and prominently feature this poster with a very Bond-like Gavin on the front:


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  • 007HallY007HallY
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    PrinceKamalKhan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    That's an interesting set of what ifs! I think for all of them you have to factor in NSNA. I guess Brosnan would have been a relative unknown in '83.

    In 1983 Brosnan was in his first season as TV detective Remington Steele so he wouldn't have been available yet.

    Yes, it started in 1982. For some reason I thought its first season was in 1983 (not something I’ve ever watched). So yes, he wouldn’t have been available.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Pierce was 30 in 1983, not too young i would say.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Through the years the films have had musical acts that were world class. Lets have some fun with the world of music.

    Would you rather catch Louis Armstrong in concert OR Dame Shirley Bassey?

    Old Satchmo was a pro and had a long and storied career. His songbook is deep and one of his last records was All the Time in The World. Soaking in his concert you would be hit with jazz and song standards and of course that rather unique voice.

    OR

    Dame Shirley a dynamo of a performer. She combines a wonderful voice with an enchanting presence. She has a deep song book and would likely feature at least two of her Bond songs in concert.

    Who would you rather listen to in a concert?
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Shirley!
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    Either Armstrong or Bassey would have been an unforgettable experience. That said, I have seen Dame Shirley Bassey in concert several times - my late mother was a massive fan - and she really delivers the goods. ^:)^
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I am very jealous @Dwayne my Dad was a massive fan but I don't think he ever saw her in person. I love both singers so this is a real tough one for me. I am leaning towards Dame Shirley cause two Bond songs would trump one. But boy tough call.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Definitely without maybe....Shirley!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I've been a bit cool about Bassey over the years, her voice is a touch strident for my liking, but we went to the 60th anniversary Bond concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 2022 and I must admit I was totally blown away when she sang Goldfinger and Diamonds- she was incredible.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Louis Armstrong was a genuine innovator who personally transformed an entire genre. The chance to be in the presence of such a legend has to be taken, no?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Yes.
  • ColonelAdamskiColonelAdamski UK
    edited September 4 Posts: 1,175
    thedove wrote: »
    Old Satchmo was a pro and had a long and storied career. His songbook is deep and one of his last records was All the Time in The World. Soaking in his concert you would be hit with jazz and song standards and of course that rather unique voice.

    I think he played the trumpet a bit too. . .
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    edited September 4 Posts: 3,049
    thedove wrote: »
    I am very jealous @Dwayne my Dad was a massive fan but I don't think he ever saw her in person. I love both singers so this is a real tough one for me. I am leaning towards Dame Shirley cause two Bond songs would trump one. But boy tough call.

    No love for "Moonraker"? :))

    IIRC Dame Shirley Bassey would open her concerts with a melody of Goldfinger and Diamonds are Forever. While she acknowledged doing Moonraker I don't recall her ever doing it in concert (at-least the one's that I've attended).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    No, she hates it. So thedove is right; you’d only ever get two, not three.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    She famously didn't like Sir Rog as Bond in MR either ('Wet! Wet! Wet!', apparently).
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    mtm wrote: »
    No, she hates it. So thedove is right; you’d only ever get two, not three.

    IIRC, she only did Moonraker as a favor to John Barry.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Good stuff and I am not sure you can go wrong on either choice.

    Lets stay within the music realm.

    Would you rather see Sir Tom Jones in concert or Sir Paul McCartney and Wings?

    We've got the powerful and rather soulful voice of Tom Jones who has managed to stay relevant long after his peers are distant memories. He famously ripped out his pants trying to hit the final notes of Thunderball.

    OR

    One of two living Beatles, who double-o-7 was not a fan of but I digress. Sir Paul delivered a banger of a theme and features it in most of his concerts to this day. Sir Paul might be getting up in years but from all accounts can still hit the right notes.

    I will let you decide if said concert is around the time of their Bond song or whether you are catching them in concert in the present. Which one are you preferring to watch in concert?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Tom Jones for me, past or present would be an experience.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    Lucky enough to see both in concert and while hearing Thunderball was amazing and Tom Jones puts on a great show, but McCartney is incredible and the performance of Live and Let Die in person is truly unique.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Already seen Paul live, so… Paul. Yeah, I’m a Macca fanatic.
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