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The theories of Bond films! What is your theory on the jungle hunt in OP?

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited September 3 Posts: 6,935
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    As I've said elsewhere on the forum I think they will only use the Bond continuation novels as a source if they are really in a creative bind of some kind with the script. Only if they're caught between a rock and a hard place, so to speak. That's why the torture scene dialogue from Colonel Sun was used in the Spectre torture scene after they'd tried and rejected another scene between Blofeld and Bond. Sadly that's the only way I can see them really using the Bond continuation novels as a source - if they really have to. And I say that with much regret as a big fan of the Bond continuation - check my username for proof of my commitment to the cause! I think there are some excellent Bond continuation novels they could adapt but I think they'll keep on churning out their own scripts and mostly keep the Bond continuations at arm's length.

    Agreed. They should think about going to Gardner for the *second* film for Bond #7, when they're rushing to capitalize on (I hope) the success of the first. That way, they could maybe avoid the "rush" mistakes of TMWTGG, TND, and QoS.

    Still, I think a lot of the Gardners have serious weak points in plotting (not unlike Fleming!), for example, Icebreaker starts strong and has great locations and a title and torture scene but devolves into I don't know what blah blah neo-Nazis, For Special Services reads as a parody, etc.

    Nobody Lives Forever is perhaps the most filmic of the Gardner novels. Bond being chased is an underappreciated element in the film series. Think of the Junkanoo in TB or of course OHMSS.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited September 3 Posts: 6,093
    One more from YOLT.

    Bond is always a smart and cunning man. He is seen using his wits to out smart his enemies. There is one move in YOTL that has always got me thinking.

    Bond frees the astronauts from captivity. He then decides he is going to be the astronaut and takes over for some of the SPECTRE astronauts.

    What was his plan if he successfully got inside the rocket? It would appear that the rocket had very little autonomy and he wasn't trained to be in space anyway.

    What is your theory on what or why Bond thought it was a good choice to be one of the astronauts in the rocket?
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,788
    thedove wrote: »
    One more from YOLT.

    Bond is always a smart and cunning man. He is seen using his wits to out smart his enemies. There is one move in YOTL that has always got me thinking.

    Bond frees the astronauts from captivity. He then decides he is going to be the astronaut and takes over for some of the SPECTRE astronauts.

    What was his plan if he successfully got inside the rocket? It would appear that the rocket had very little autonomy and he wasn't trained to be in space anyway.

    What is your theory on what or why Bond thought it was a good choice to be one of the astronauts in the rocket?

    Perhaps blow it up from the inside. He'd die but prevented ww3
  • Reflsin2bourbonsReflsin2bourbons
    Posts: 507
    Bond wouldn't even have to go to space, he probably just have to light a cigarette during launch (or something like that) and the whole thing would go up in flames. That was Bond's plan for the Moonraker (novel) climax anyway.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 3,049
    I've always assumed that Bond didn't really have well thought out plan. Like much of YOLT (or MR), I try not to think about it too hard for the plot holes are large and numerous!

    Perhaps he was stalling for time or perhaps he figured that he could somehow disrupt the flight from the inside.

    PS. How convenient that there are separate changing rooms for the SPECTRE astronauts (IIRC). ;)
  • BT3366BT3366
    Posts: 1,983
    Another picky thing was Blofeld caught Bond was an imposter by having equipment he shouldn't have entering the capsul. Were the captive astronauts that incompetent they'd have made that mistake or wouldn't one of the other Blofeld astronauts have mentioned it? Also, wasn't it convenient to have a reserve astronaut on standby, you know, just in case an enemy agent infiltrates the flight.

    I've also always wondered what became of the astronauts who helped Bond after he was discovered by Blofeld. Did they get picked up in the astronaut prep room or had they found the volcano exit or just become casualties after Blofeld threw the switch?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,709
    With his naval background 007 was clearly rated on that platform.

  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 6,093
    I had always thought @BT3366 the spare astronaut was there to protect against a sick call.

    Astronaut "Hey yeah sorry to do this but I am not feeling the greatest."

    SPECTRE Agent "Oh wow, you know the launch to start WWIII is today?"

    Astronaut "I know the timing sucks I was looking forward to cutting some cords today. But nah, I am just not feeling myself."

    SPECTRE Agent "Well Number 1 isn't going to be happy about this. Let me put you on hold. You will need to tell him yourself."

    Astronaut "Can't you just tell me, the last guy who called in sick got fed to the pariah's."

    Yes I suppose Bond was just making it up as he went along. I had always thought that they replaced both SPECTRE astronauts. In other words that the US astronaut and Bond were going to fly the rocket. Then during a watch I realized that Bond and team only replaced one astronaut.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 16,070
    My understanding is that once in the rocket he would have get it off its trajectory and crash it into the ocean.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 5,875
    Think Bond was winging it a bit! He looks nervous wandering up to the rocket. As said I think his idea was to somehow sabotage it.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 6,093
    Lets jump ahead to another film adventure. This one features Bond in the wild.

    I am talking about OP. A wonderful sequence involves a hunt for Bond. Literally Bond is hunted by Kamal and his troops in the jungles of India. Although the sequence is undermined by some humour, it does stand out for some suspense and a rather unique setting for a foot chase.

    But that leads me to my question. It appears that Kamal et al were fully aware and intending for this to be a hunt for Bond.

    Kamal even proclaims "Good. Let the sport commence," when Bond runs into the jungle.

    But how would he know that Bond hid in the meat locker? Kamal may have pieced together Bond escaping from his room, the melted bars on the window would be a dead giveaway but how would he know that Bond was about to become the prey to his hunting expedition.

    Gobinda is seen doing a look around the meat locker before shutting the door and locking the door. Did he catch a glimpse of Bond? If so why leave him there, why not rouse him out and deal with the escape then and there?

    What is your theory on the hunt in the jungle of Bond? Did Kamal know Bond was to be the prey?

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