EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • edited August 19 Posts: 5,805
    I suppose at the end of the day these are people simply doing a job, often under deadlines and for movies which are quite big in scale. There’s a broad system of sorts (pre-production, filming, post etc) but in practice it can all get a bit muddled and there are many moving parts - not every movie will necessarily have a finalised script going into filming (whether that’s necessarily a good thing or not is debatable) and often people can be brought in late if needed. And ultimately none of us know exactly what they’re planning behind closed doors or exactly how they’re doing it.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    He can be Sir James, who plays Debussy, stutters, has a nephew named Jimmy, and is received by Moneypenny's daughter at the office. 😁
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Every Bond fan needs to hope that we get Knights SAS Heroes pulp mixed with Villeneuve's trademark cerebral stoicism, that would be the making of a classic Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    To be fair, yeah I'd be happy with that.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    To be fair, yeah I'd be happy with that.

    Yes. Me too. Maybe that's even the reason Knight was picked...because of SAS heroes...to balance it with Villeneuve's very serious style.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    What people miss is, even if Bond 26 if not a complete rewriting the rulebook, it's still going to be lighter than Craig's era. The Living Daylights wasn't a complete break from Roger Moore, but it was still a good bit darker.
  • What people miss is, even if Bond 26 if not a complete rewriting the rulebook, it's still going to be lighter than Craig's era. The Living Daylights wasn't a complete break from Roger Moore, but it was still a good bit darker.
    It will be lighter than NTTD, considering that Bond won't die in it. But with Villeneuve at the helm, it's pretty much guaranteed that Bond 26 will be far less silly than Spectre and NTTD.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    We could also find out more about the state of the script/story this September, when Knight's show about Guinness gets press. Then the Peaky movie likely in Winter/Spring. So clues about state of script here and there but not much else I don't think, unless there are leaks.

    I wonder if any of the Guinness family actors will get a shot at Bond?

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    Also, @mtm I would think Pegg had a lot of prior insight and ideas as a fan and cast member. All things considered, CR was a little similar in being a quick (for modern Bond) production considering it introduces a new guy just four years after the old one, but they had a story they had wanted to tell forever.
    I think actor in second to left looks promising.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    What people miss is, even if Bond 26 if not a complete rewriting the rulebook, it's still going to be lighter than Craig's era. The Living Daylights wasn't a complete break from Roger Moore, but it was still a good bit darker.

    Yeah. True. I can imagine a bit of fantasy in Villeneuve's Bond, even if Bond Villeneuve is a serious director. We can see that in all his science fiction films, the films still didn't lose focus.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Nah, Bond will die in the next one, and depress you all into believing that a light hearted Bond film has truly faded away, much like the joys of your childhood.
  • edited August 20 Posts: 5,805
    I think the difference in story will have an impact. NTTD was this fatalistic final chapter of the Craig era, albeit with some quite noticeable comedic moments. Bond 26 will be the first adventure with our new lead, and it’ll be Bond’s triumphant return to the big screen. Ultimately our hero will come out alive at the very least!

    I can imagine it being a sort of LTK to GE type situation. LTK is this more stripped back, revenge driven story, while GE is more a reinvention of those classic Bond tropes with a bigger scale and polished visuals, not to mention it’s a touch more outlandish in many ways. But I’d argue that GE has a lot in there that’s just as gritty, and honestly even a touch more violent and dark than LTK (ie. the Bond/Travelyan brawl, Onnatop mowing down everyone at Sevenaya with a machine gun, orgasming whenever she crushes anyone with her thighs, her dying by getting her spine crushed, Travelyan’s double death via fall/being crushed, and in general the film’s darker cinematography gives it a more foreboding atmosphere than LTK). It’s just presented within a different adventure - and honestly the outlandishness of characters like Onnatop gives what she does more of a shock factor - and with a different lead. But I don’t think that film would have turned out the way it did without LTK.

    In that sense I don’t think it’s as much about which film will be ‘lighter’, but what exactly they’ll do with the story and characters.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    We could also find out more about the state of the script/story this September, when Knight's show about Guinness gets press. Then the Peaky movie likely in Winter/Spring. So clues about state of script here and there but not much else I don't think, unless there are leaks.

    I wonder if any of the Guinness family actors will get a shot at Bond?

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    Also, @mtm I would think Pegg had a lot of prior insight and ideas as a fan and cast member. All things considered, CR was a little similar in being a quick (for modern Bond) production considering it introduces a new guy just four years after the old one, but they had a story they had wanted to tell forever.
    I think actor in second to left looks promising.

    Funnily enough he's already a spy: he was set up to play the young version of Henry Cavill's Argylle character in the last scene of that movie, but I guess that's unlikely to happen.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    We could also find out more about the state of the script/story this September, when Knight's show about Guinness gets press. Then the Peaky movie likely in Winter/Spring. So clues about state of script here and there but not much else I don't think, unless there are leaks.

    I wonder if any of the Guinness family actors will get a shot at Bond?

    MV5BZTk1NGY5NTEtMWM5OC00NzNhLTgwNDYtMDg0OWM1MzUzNjlhXkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_FMjpg_UX1280_.jpg

    Also, @mtm I would think Pegg had a lot of prior insight and ideas as a fan and cast member. All things considered, CR was a little similar in being a quick (for modern Bond) production considering it introduces a new guy just four years after the old one, but they had a story they had wanted to tell forever.
    I think actor in second to left looks promising.

    Funnily enough he's already a spy: he was set up to play the young version of Henry Cavill's Argylle character in the last scene of that movie, but I guess that's unlikely to happen.

    Isn’t he only 22 years old; that might be a tad too young
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 20 Posts: 18,884
    For Bond, yes I think it is. I guess he'll be likely be 24 by the time they shoot, which is only five years younger than Lazenby was...
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Next Cavill? He was also too young.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I watched Sicario last night. It further makes Denis Villeneuve a great choice for directing Bond. There is more humor balanced in it, so I would expect him to adapt to Bond, in that department. I've noticed that he has directed a lot of Bond alumni already: Christopher Walken, Benicio del Toro, Dave Bautista, Javier Bardem, Lea Seydoux, just to name a few. After watching Sicario last night, I would REALLY love to see Emily Blunt be a part of the next movie. M would be my choice, but I would happily take her in any role. I feel that Denis will get the car chases right! The tension between hero and villain should be well done as well. I feel that 007 is in great directing hands!
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    mtm wrote: »
    Oh yeah, there's nothing worse than being in a fandom when something new is made. Fans hate the thing they're fans of for some reason.

    This, right now, is the best point in B26's existence: it's got great people onboard with it so it has the potential to be a superb Bond movie. The next Bond actor, right now, could be the best one we've ever had. Right now it could have the most Flemingy title we've never thought of before; the score might be an incredible new style good enough to take over from Barry. But as soon as more is announced, those possibilities narrow, more and more people get disappointed as it turns out it won't be the best film ever made, the title will be sort of meh, the new actor looks a bit weird and isn't the exact personification of the Milk Tray Man, I'm not too keen on that location, oh is it about Bond defeating an oligarch again.. hmmm... and then, as you say, when it's released a lot of fans will absolutely hate it. I might be one of them!
    So enjoy it right now, because this might well be as good as the film will ever get, certainly it's the most harmonious we're likely to be on here until the next big announcement! :D

    This IS so true. Having worked on shows that have pre-existing fandoms there is nothing worse than trying to please everyone. It can't be done. Just enjoy the ride.
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