EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • Posts: 5,718
    Well, even if they do that I suspect Amazon’s lawyers will have something to say about it.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Image rights and licensing will be a huge hurdle for the proposed do it yourself AI shows.
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    It's useless tech at this stage, still. No one is going to make a Bond episode with AI that competes with Bond 26 in terms of talent and marketing oomph.

    Think bond will continue to follow the trend and keep copying villain plots of mission impossible where bond now takes on a ai villain now?
  • Posts: 5,718
    Some sort of AI component in a Bond film definitely has the potential to be scary, but I think it has to be thought through. I can’t see an AI villain working at all, and we’d need to see exactly what this AI can do/how exactly the villain is using it.

    I guess you could just blend it in with a typical Bond villain plot. If a villain wants to, I don’t know, create a doomsday scenario like in TSWLM or MR then I can imagine AI being a great element to that (insofar as these weapons can’t be controlled/now have a mind of their own which Bond has to overcome). Or if it’s a FRWL type McGuffin it could be an AI weapon/machine or something along those lines (again, we have to get a sense of what specifically it can do, but it has potential).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Let's face it, if SP had been made 10 years later Max Denbigh would be proposing AI initiative to "keep the people safe", instead of vague surveillance.
  • edited August 7 Posts: 5,718
    Let's face it, if SP had been made 10 years later Max Denbigh would be proposing AI initiative to "keep the people safe", instead of vague surveillance.

    Honestly, it probably would have been better than what we got! Actually if done right with a good villain, that’s a really chilling idea.

    Anyway, I can see AI being included in some form (albeit likely not in the same way MI used it). For better or for worse it’s part of our world, and in the fantastical universe of Bond I can see villains using it for their own means, as well as allies utilising it to assist our hero in some way.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    AI does seem very possible; MI was very prescient to get there so early.
    It's kind of hard to imagine it in a way different to MI: in the real world the danger is that AI would be the main villain and no one would have control, I don't know how you give that a human face and make it unlike the Entity.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    mtm wrote: »
    AI does seem very possible; MI was very prescient to get there so early.
    It's kind of hard to imagine it in a way different to MI: in the real world the danger is that AI would be the main villain and no one would have control, I don't know how you give that a human face and make it unlike the Entity.

    What about a case where you think an AI has become ungoverned, but it actually turns out to be being manipulated by an evil mastermind, used much in the same way we would consider "safe" but just for evil ends.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I guess, but then I'd say the truly out of control AI is the scarier concept, isn't it?
  • edited August 7 Posts: 5,718
    mtm wrote: »
    AI does seem very possible; MI was very prescient to get there so early.
    It's kind of hard to imagine it in a way different to MI: in the real world the danger is that AI would be the main villain and no one would have control, I don't know how you give that a human face and make it unlike the Entity.

    For what it's worth I've heard it doesn't quite work in MI (but I can't say for sure one way or the other). I suppose the way of doing it is making sure AI has some basis in the villain's plan and just concentrate on their motives/develop it organically. Maybe the villain wants to create chaos for example or have some point to prove (maybe ironically it's that AI is dangerous), so will hijack some sort of AI weapon tech to go out of control/cause destruction (the villain themselves may not exactly know what the AI will do, but perhaps that's a scary concept in itself. Imagine a sort of mad Renard type villain using such an AI rather than developing his own plan).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    mtm wrote: »
    I guess, but then I'd say the truly out of control AI is the scarier concept, isn't it?

    The point is the whole story we are hammered with the idea there is a safe and unsafe way for AI to be used, and it turns out the safe way is actually just as dangerous.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    AI does seem very possible; MI was very prescient to get there so early.
    It's kind of hard to imagine it in a way different to MI: in the real world the danger is that AI would be the main villain and no one would have control, I don't know how you give that a human face and make it unlike the Entity.

    For what it's worth I've heard it doesn't quite work in MI (but I can't say for sure one way or the other). I suppose the way of doing it is making sure AI has some basis in the villain's plan and just concentrate on their motives/develop it organically. Maybe the villain wants to create chaos for example or have some point to prove (maybe ironically it's that AI is dangerous), so will hijack some sort of AI weapon tech to go out of control/cause destruction (the villain themselves may not exactly know what the AI will do, but perhaps that's a scary concept in itself. Imagine a sort of mad Renard type villain using such an AI rather than developing his own plan).

    Yeah that's a good thought.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I don't think they've ever quite cracked a cool way to depict AI onscreen yet. James Cameron still set the bar the highest 40 years ago. Not too many have come close to that, especially when it's depicted as an antagonist.

    It was a major noose around the neck of the last two Mission films, where even they weren't sure how to make the Entity intimidating.

    I'd be trying to avoid it, to be honest.
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    AI tools in a year or so will probably be a way for fans to create their own animated 007 adventures that look much like the cut scenes of First Daylight.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited August 8 Posts: 9,148
    delfloria wrote: »
    AI tools in a year or so will probably be a way for fans to create their own animated 007 adventures that look much like the cut scenes of First Daylight.

    But First Light wasn't just created by one guy, it was a whole project, so I don't know if that's quite true. Even if you have the tech, it still doesn't make up for the rift in talent/organisational structure.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    I don't think I've seen anything that Wright's written. How is he with dialogue?
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I don't think I've seen anything that Wright's written. How is he with dialogue?

    Early Peaky Blinders dialogue was very good.

    Judging Knight on Peaky Blinders and SAS Rogue Heroes were in capable hands. He does have a tendency to write his heroes into near impossible situations, only to be rescued by a plot twist or a character previously thought to be dead.

    Edit Knight not Wright. Haha my bad thanks @Mathis1
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    Ye haven't written Wright right!!
    His name is Steven Knight!
  • RyanRyan Canada
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Ye haven't written Wright right!!
    His name is Steven Knight!

    Steven Wright to Knight! We've had it all wrong. Steven Wright will knight the next Bond.
  • Posts: 8,468
    Well, I think they were right not getting Wright.. let's hope they were right getting Knight
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    But he's neither Steve Wright in the Afternoon nor Stephen Knight, the Freemasons exposer...(w)right?
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