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If I were to rank these:
1. Fallout
2. Dead Reckoning
3. Rogue Nation
4. Ghost Protocol
5. Final Reckoning
6. M:I
7. M:I-2
8. M:I-III
The audience for MI also now skews pretty old. When adjusting for inflation, MI2 is highest grosser, with over a billion! And that actually makes a lot of sense, as I was 13 back then and many kids my age were hyped for that film. I have a hard time imagining kids being as excited for MI8.
This is why I think returning as a TV show and going back to basics makes the most sense at this point. The audience is becoming niche. Unless they can get Zendaya to become a stuntwoman.
Saw it yesterday, as I wanted to see it on the big screen after missing out on dead reckoning in cinemas.
It is an amazing film, with all those stunts, and made so well. But I do appreciate a bit of a (logical) story as well, and putting so many stunts in does detract of them a bit.
Having said that, the biplane chase is perhaps the best stunt ever done. It is increadable and, as you said, that one only was worth the ticket. Ten times.
I think the main problem is that us, the now perhaps not-so-young, still go to the names that we know from before, but with all the cgi stuff and miniseries on streaming, people just can't be bothered to go to the cinema. I hardly know what's playing and have been let down by un-originality in CGI so many times, it's really not worth keeping track. And that is what's killing cinema.
Look at what Disney did to Snow White. Or the discussions about Superman. It's the use of old icons for... what? Regurgitation in a way half the people won't go and watch it anyway?
They forgot what their industry was about: originality, and entertainment. At least Cruise is giving us entertainment.
Oh yes. For all the complaints about Bond having an audience that skewed older in the later Craig films, it has nothing on this film series. In my experience (for what it's worth) the people I know who watch it are 40+ and seem slightly disgruntled with the newer Bond films. It's not a good audience. That crowd won't necessarily see these films in the cinema, and aren't that invested in the franchise anyway. The audience for this franchise is much too 'soft'. Said it two years ago and I maintained that thought. Its ceiling only goes so high. Honestly, this latest film did worse than even my expectations financially! Thought it'd do at least 600 million.
It's done well, don't get me wrong. It's not a flop. I've enjoyed some of these films too. But no, the excitement isn't there for this franchise. It isn't a long term thing. Essentially it's not James Bond!
His career needs a change. He can't always pretend he's 40.
Any actor can have their flops or hits. I agree, different films that came along at different times. It’s a bit like the predictions that Fall Guy was going to be a smash hit because Gosling had come off of Barbie. It just doesn’t work like that.
Yes, I’d like to see Cruise do something a bit different going forward too.
Cruise looks his age in TFR. He managed to get away with it in DRP1 and TG Maverick, but not anymore.
I would like to see him go back to more traditional dramatic "acting" roles, not that he isnt acting in MI or TGM, but they are very much stunt/action focused.
Hell, have him in a sequel to THE COLOR OF MONEY. Vincent in a similar role to Paul Newman, finding a diamond in the rough upcoming film star.
Cruise turned 63 this month.
There's no incentive for Gen Z or Gen A (or whatever they call it, Gen TikTok 🤭) to relate to a 60 plus year old star. Same is true of F1 with a 61 year old Brad Pitt. It's too early to tell if F1 will break even/make profit. It opened to decent box office.
Cruise may have another hit with the rumoured Top Gun 3 but it's a bit like scraping the rehash barrel. I know James Bond is up to 25 so some people may argue "that's rehash x 25!" but hey, Bond is Bond. 😉
And Bond has been reinvented countless times. With new actors. Cruise IS Ethan Hunt for the general (current) public. They could go with a younger actor, but try and find one willing to do what Cruise has done. And insurance companies to cover it, of course.
Or wait ten years and MI can be started again. But Cruise is done, he said so himself
I'd like Cruise to move away from McQ for awhile. Sincerely from a MI standpoint. It's like Bond scripts with Purvis and Wade, at this point. I think we will see Cruise as Ethan Hunt again, honestly.
Finally saw the film yesterday and saved these posts to read until after I'd actually seen it to avoid spoilers, and this review, ironically, captured about exactly the same things I thought about it. I do look forward to watching it again to see how my reaction is in a more isolated environment. My screening included a group of seniors who happened to be in my row and they laughed loudly at every little moment of amusement or gasped and talked a fair bit during certain scenes that distracted a lot. That aside, this was one of the loudest films I've ever experienced.
Still, an underwhelming film like this is time better spent than whatever something like Netflix is offering up. I only get to a movie or 2 a year and 3 of the last 4 I've seen were Cruise movies: Maverick and the last 2 MIs.
1000%. There used to be a time when Cruise was able to alternate between summer blockbuster fare and prestigious films. He literally shot MAGNOLIA and MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 2 back to back, for example. Would be nice to see him get back to work with some of those he collaborated in the past like Scorsese, Spielberg, and PTA, even newer filmmakers he hadn’t collaborated with like Coogler or the Safdie brothers.
Exactly! And for that we need the comeback of good scripts. Plenty of fine books to adapt out there too. Just look at what they did with “Queer”. Many renowned authors have brilliant novels yet to be put to screen. We need to comeback to good writing. Bold and intelligent. Humane and moving. Stuff that says stuff about what we want for times to come, not just about the global misery we’re in. Start from there and then give us glimpses of hope. Let’s go back to a time when we had “Angels in America” or “Magnolia”.
This episode is with Eddie Hamilton the editor, and it's interesting to hear the editor and, in other interviews, McQ the director of a big blockbuster film, both acknowledge that the film opens too slowly and is too long, while that film is still in cinemas.
These last two have been operations of behemothic proportions.
Also interesting: originally The Final Reckoning was going to be non-linear!