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I can't imagine what it must've been like to hear that amazing John Barry score in the movie theater.
Top one.
Just wish they'd put similar focus on plot, character and men with hats
If they had done that the movie would get Dark Knight Rises comparisons in addition to all the Dark Knight comparisons!
Bane essentially rules over the underground pit prison that he escaped from in his past.
Oh yes, I forgot they mentioned that too.
It's a strange one
SF has the better screenplay but TWINE has a tidier plot and whilst Renard is the better villain, Bardem gave the better performance.
Gustav Graves is a prototype of Silva, albeit with added snarl.
I can see the instinct to do it, and it's not unreasonable for EON, Logan, Mendes and Purvis/Wade - who all know their Fleming- to contemplate going there. But I think it was much more impactful seeing Bond choose to go into his little alcoholic exile after his injuries. It also makes it more impactful seeing him decide to return in the name of duty to MI6. It's completely his choice ultimately and makes that changing point much more concise (I believe SF's 'inciting incident' in this way comes relatively late in the script/film we have anyway - the 20 minute mark - so dawdling and setting up a brainwashed Bond and his recovery would have dragged anyway and made it a slower film). Take that away and it's not as big a character moment. It makes him less Bondian ironically. It's a reason I always say adapting Fleming directly isn't in itself always a good thing to do.
Having Silva pull the strings and try to make Bond kill M kills the similarities they share too. In the film we get they're weirdly kindred spirits and go through similar experiences with M. The only difference is Bond maintains his loyalty and a sense of duty, while Silva becomes consumed with revenge and anarchy and pays for it. In this early version Silva also ultimately fails to get the brainwashed Bond to kill M. In the SF we have it's clear he wants to kill M by his own hand, and it's even his undoing in that ironic way because he's so obsessed with doing so. I think the version we got was much better, and it's interesting that they developed it the way they did. I think they did a fantastic job with this script.
Yeah one bit in the interview they talk about Silva sees himself and Bond as kindred spirits, and yet they aren't really and Bond doesn't quite know what he's on about! :)
Yes. It's bit like TMWTGG's lunch scene. Or to a lesser extent Travelyan during the graveyard scene in GE. The villain sees Bond as basically being a parallel to him, and Bond outright rejects it. In truth Bond is probably not unlike these villains (especially Silva). But his steadfast devotion to duty keeps him from evil despite his flaws and vices.
Brainwashing would probably overcomplicate that. Can't imagine a SF with that subplot!
Yeah I guess it was a very early version where they considered that!
He really was. It's him who drives the plot forward and brings the requisite menace.
Elektra's reveal is terribly revealed, as is her romance with Pierce. Her behaviour after the torture scene..and they give Xmas Jones grief....9
There's a bit too much 'borrowing' for SF to be considered superior.
The aesthetic, the look of SF: absolutely, but it's in the same zone as TWINE. Better than DAD but so is everything.