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  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    Tracy wrote: »
    has-anyone-been-able-to-sit-thru-HeavensGate?

    Walken-is-in-it......only-seen-30min-of-it-or-something

    Yes, apart from being far to long, I think it's actually a good movie

    It was a while ago now and I may have watched it it two parts / sittings
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I’ve only seen the Directors Cut that was released via Criterion Collection around a decade ago. I thought it was fine. Made me curious to how the original version was that got so panned by critics.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited April 23 Posts: 4,976
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    I’ve only seen the Directors Cut that was released via Criterion Collection around a decade ago. I thought it was fine. Made me curious to how the original version was that got so panned by critics.

    Michael Cimino's reputation for being a dictator, and not so much of a director, didn't probably help Heaven's Gate originally. Destroying sets on a whim, not shooting until a cloud he liked rolled by, countless takes of one second shots, Michael Cimino wanted his movie too perfect. True animal abuse probably didn't help either. Cimino apparently to United Artists that he wanted to release the movie at 4 hours, minimum. He really should have just released it as two movies. I remember a quote that during the intermission, Cimino asked why no one was drinking the champagne. His publicist reportedly said, "because they hate the movie, Michael." So it was arguably the original behind the scenes stories that hurt Heaven's Gate, at first release. I got the Michael Cimino book: Cimino: The Deer Hunter, Heaven’s Gate, and the Price of a Vision by Charles Elton. Maybe this will clear up some details about his part in production. We all know how truthful he was about everything, (sarcasm, he always told conflicting stories about everything in particular himself).
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 8,139
    I've only ever watched 'Heavens Gate' once, and to be honest I don't remember too much about it, but it's probably due another visit, and it's been re-evaluated by some critics!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    I must admit, i watched The Deer Hunter again recently after many years, and despite the outstanding performances and intensely powerful scenes, something seemed off this time.

    Perhaps it now feels self-indulgent, self-important. The characters seemed uninteresting with unfathomable motives. I dunno.

    Perhaps it's that the shocking Russian Roulette games were something apparently never witnessed during the Vietnam war..?

    Any opinions on this very welcome!
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 8,139
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    I must admit, i watched The Deer Hunter again recently after many years, and despite the outstanding performances and intensely powerful scenes, something seemed off this time.

    Perhaps it now feels self-indulgent, self-important. The characters seemed uninteresting with unfathomable motives. I dunno.

    Perhaps it's that the shocking Russian Roulette games were something apparently never witnessed during the Vietnam war..?

    Any opinions on this very welcome!

    Have to say, I was never really a fan of it! Just never really enjoyed 'The Deer Hunter' ! Not a classic in my book! I think Oliver Stone's 'Platoon' is better movie!
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I think The Deer Hunter is a well-made film, but I have zero desire to ever rewatch it.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,309
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    I must admit, i watched The Deer Hunter again recently after many years, and despite the outstanding performances and intensely powerful scenes, something seemed off this time.

    Perhaps it now feels self-indulgent, self-important. The characters seemed uninteresting with unfathomable motives. I dunno.

    Perhaps it's that the shocking Russian Roulette games were something apparently never witnessed during the Vietnam war..?

    Any opinions on this very welcome!

    Have to say, I was never really a fan of it! Just never really enjoyed 'The Deer Hunter' ! Not a classic in my book! I think Oliver Stone's 'Platoon' is better movie!

    Oh definitely @Mathis1 i think Platoon is one of the best war films ever made. I only recently purchased the special edition Bluray. The authenticity is there because Oliver Stone actually served in Vietnam!

    Thinking it over, The Deer Hunter seems to be a case of 'the emperors new clothes' that 50 minute wedding sequence is seriously self indulgent!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,309
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I think The Deer Hunter is a well-made film, but I have zero desire to ever rewatch it.

    I must admit, after this last viewing, neither have i...
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 5,090
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I think The Deer Hunter is a well-made film, but I have zero desire to ever rewatch it.

    Agreed. It’s not a Platoon or Full Metal Jacket in that sense.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,309
    007HallY wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I think The Deer Hunter is a well-made film, but I have zero desire to ever rewatch it.

    Agreed. It’s not a Platoon or Full Metal Jacket in that sense.

    Funnily enough, Full Metal Jacket doesn't really ring my bell anymore either...
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 5,090
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I think The Deer Hunter is a well-made film, but I have zero desire to ever rewatch it.

    Agreed. It’s not a Platoon or Full Metal Jacket in that sense.

    Funnily enough, Full Metal Jacket doesn't really ring my bell anymore either...

    I’d say it’s like most of Kubrick’s films in the sense it’s difficult to look away from even if it’s not your thing. I like that film though.
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