Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (30th June 2023)

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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    It sounds a little like Patrick Allen, it might not be, but it sounds like him.
  • That was terrific!

    Now can you send the usherette round with the ice cream tubs and Kia-Ora?
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    It sounds a little like Patrick Allen, it might not be, but it sounds like him.

    He's only credited on IMDB for voicing TLD, but yes....it sounds like him,
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Monorailer wrote: »
    That was terrific!

    Now can you send the usherette round with the ice cream tubs and Kia-Ora?

    Those were the days! "It's too orangery for Crows...!"
  • Monorailer wrote: »
    That was terrific!

    Now can you send the usherette round with the ice cream tubs and Kia-Ora?

    Those were the days! "It's too orangery for Crows...!"

    I loved those ads apart from the racial connotations with the black workers in the background etc.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Monorailer wrote: »
    That was terrific!

    Now can you send the usherette round with the ice cream tubs and Kia-Ora?

    Those were the days! "It's too orangery for Crows...!"

    I loved those ads apart from the racial connotations with the black workers in the background etc.

    The version you've apparently seen differs from the one I used to watch...🤔
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    The magazines are starting now as we get closer to the month of release.



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    How cool would it be to be Mads Mikkleson?!!!! He has been in some of the biggest franchise movies going? Bond, Potter, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Marvel and Hannibal Lector. He only needs Star Trek, DC and the Middle Earth and he will be done! :-bd :))
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    He looks great

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  • RogueAgent wrote: »
    How cool would it be to be Mads Mikkleson?!!!! He has been in some of the biggest franchise movies going? Bond, Potter, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Marvel and Hannibal Lector. He only needs Star Trek, DC and the Middle Earth and he will be done! :-bd :))

    Absolutely And his brother Lars who is also a fine actor has been in Sherlock Holmes and is now playing Admiral Thrawn in Star Wars universe.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    How cool would it be to be Mads Mikkleson?!!!! He has been in some of the biggest franchise movies going? Bond, Potter, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Marvel and Hannibal Lector. He only needs Star Trek, DC and the Middle Earth and he will be done! :-bd :))

    Absolutely And his brother Lars who is also a fine actor has been in Sherlock Holmes and is now playing Admiral Thrawn in Star Wars universe.

    I think both would be great Superman villains. Both could work for Brainiac, Parasite, Bruno Mannheim or Professor Hamilton/Ruin. That could cover their DC accomplishments.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    I like what we saw there. No complaints at all.
    Ford looks remarkable considering his age. And Mads looks great in pretty much every role I see him in.
    Thanks for sharing @mtm
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    mtm wrote: »

    Now that's classic Indy action we missed so much in Crystal Skull.
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    Yes! This is night and day difference from the jungle chase in the last film.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'm guessing this is only an early stage chase in the film too, not the main one- much like the boat chase in Last Crusade. They are bickering like they haven't teamed up yet.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    For the most part, the motorized vehicle chases in Indy never disappoint. I’ve liked them all, they’re always entertaining. George Lucas has mentioned those are his favorite scenes in the movies.

    The negative thing that I can joke about is Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s birthmark is really distracting.
  • edited May 2023 Posts: 669
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    For the most part, the motorized vehicle chases in Indy never disappoint. I’ve liked them all, they’re always entertaining. George Lucas has mentioned those are his favorite scenes in the movies.

    The negative thing that I can joke about is Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s birthmark is really distracting.

    I agree that the motorized vehicle chases are my favorite parts of the Indy movies as well. Even the jungle chase in KotCS is great fun, although it's certainly tempered by the CGI vine swinging and some of the fake looking scenery. This car / tuk tuk chase looks sensational, though.

    And I agree with @mtm that this is clearly not the "main setpiece" chase of the film. Although, curiously, I have absolutely no idea what that setpiece would be. The train chase opens the film and then there's the horse / subway chase. After that, I'm not seeing a lot in the big setpiece department. Maybe something involving the plane that they fall out of?
  • edited May 2023 Posts: 440
    There are at least seven major setpieces we can directly spot in the trailers (not counting ones which seem likely but are for now unconfirmed).

    - Opening 25 minutes where gets captured at a German castle under attack, escapes, and with the help of his friend Basil, boards the train Voller is on.
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    - Confrontation between Indy, Helena, Klaber, Agent Mason, and Olivier Richters' henchman, in the Hunter College archive.
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    - The chase across Manhattan through the Apollo 11 Ticker Tape Parade and down into the subway.
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    - A fight at a Moroccan casino that ends up with the various characters chasing each other across the city.
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    - A sequence where Indy? [and others, including Olivier Richter's henchman character] have to dive underwater to locate something sunk at the bottom of the ocean.
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    - Indy, Helena (and I would assume Voller's gang either chasing, following, or leading) have to battle various traps in an ancient structure.
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    - A sequence where Voller's Heinkel
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    - travels through what looks like a storm, with another (more modern plane) tailing behind, with Indy and Helena ending up jumping out of the plane.
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    Man. I’m letting myself get just a little too excited for this one. The prospect of one last great Indiana Jones film is terrific, but I don’t want to get burned should it disappoint. Not far away now anyway!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'm finding it hard to understand why people online have an issue with the VFX in the clip. Looks perfectly good to me.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I'm finding it hard to understand why people online have an issue with the VFX in the clip. Looks perfectly good to me.

    You could put a clip up that is 100% practical and some would scream “ CG, CG, CG!” 🙄

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    If we're talking about YouTube especially, they've got a pretty obvious, certain crowd that is not going to be pleased no matter what...
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    I think the chase looks great. Seems very traditional and classic INDY too me. I wouldn't have it any other way.
    I will certainly go see this in the cinemas.
  • edited May 2023 Posts: 440
    I think there's also the issue that up until the last few years, most obvious (which is not the same thing as inherently bad) CGI effects looked like digital intrusions on photochemical film.

    Which has trained people to associate that 'digital' look with fakeness.

    So when you have a movie shot entirely on digital, people can read things which used to look entirely normal to them, because they're used to the film look, as suddenly seeming like CGI.

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    For example, I've had some people tell me that they thought the background of this image looked completely fake.

    Even though we know they shot it on location and the location in question looks identical to what's seen here.

    But it looks like a digital creation because, by virtue of being captured by a digital camera and colour graded digitally, it kind of is.

    This isn't really a good or a bad thing, it's just part of how the language of film is still continuing to evolve.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I find it unique that we're talking about digital cinematography on the Indy thread, as his creator was arguably the first major director to use it fully on a movie. Ironically, Spielberg told Lucas that he would film Indy 4 with a film camera. Lucas agreed, surprisingly. It's still a change to see it in an Indy film, though.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    Looks great! Cinematography/filter looking like the Morocco scenes in Spectre and a chase inspired by Octopussy.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'm finding it hard to understand why people online have an issue with the VFX in the clip. Looks perfectly good to me.

    I’m fairly sure I can spot a couple of shots where the Jaguar is CG, when we see it close behind the tuk tuk, but it looks fine. I’ve seen folks say that’s not Harrison Ford lifting his legs up onto the bonnet of the car, but I’m not sure why they think that; and if it isn’t him it’s the most perfect face replacement job I’ve ever seen.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I'm finding it hard to understand why people online have an issue with the VFX in the clip. Looks perfectly good to me.

    I’m fairly sure I can spot a couple of shots where the Jaguar is CG, when we see it close behind the tuk tuk, but it looks fine. I’ve seen folks say that’s not Harrison Ford lifting his legs up onto the bonnet of the car, but I’m not sure why they think that; and if it isn’t him it’s the most perfect face replacement job I’ve ever seen.

    Also that truck which squeezes by, as well.

    Which makes sense as you wouldn't want to damage the historic buildings or (maybe more importantly) the cast, in case the timing of the driver wasn't just right.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Modern audiences have the curse of being very sophisticated and aware of film techniques and technologies; this is something that , to choose a cut off point, pre-digital filmmakers did not have to deal with. Special Visual Effects are a passion of mine; I see the effects shots in the early Indy films as much as I do the post digital ones; they’re just different.
    From what I’ve seen of the new film, it looks great; I will be able to suspend my disbelief.
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