Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    These all have backstory.

    DN: "Your Baretta jammed on your last job."
    OHMSS: "Blofeld's something of a 'must 'with me."
    LALD: "I rather liked Baines." Or "Mrs. Bond?"
    TLD: "If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
    GE: "You were supposed to die for me."

    CR is the only one that doesn't.
  • echo wrote: »
    These all have backstory.

    DN: "Your Baretta jammed on your last job."
    OHMSS: "Blofeld's something of a 'must 'with me."
    LALD: "I rather liked Baines." Or "Mrs. Bond?"
    TLD: "If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
    GE: "You were supposed to die for me."

    CR is the only one that doesn't.

    Technically you could make the argument that CR’s “backstory” was Bond’s assassination of both double agents in the pre-title sequence, and Vesper makes a reference to his SAS days during the train scene.

    I do agree with the overall sentiment that another Bond origin story isn’t needed for the next actor.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    echo wrote: »
    These all have backstory.

    DN: "Your Baretta jammed on your last job."
    OHMSS: "Blofeld's something of a 'must 'with me."
    LALD: "I rather liked Baines." Or "Mrs. Bond?"
    TLD: "If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
    GE: "You were supposed to die for me."

    CR is the only one that doesn't.

    Technically you could make the argument that CR’s “backstory” was Bond’s assassination of both double agents in the pre-title sequence, and Vesper makes a reference to his SAS days during the train scene.

    I do agree with the overall sentiment that another Bond origin story isn’t needed for the next actor.

    Those are pretty loose in the sense that those events are only related to the film in terms of character rather than plot, though.
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    I wanna see a more relaxed pace, more languid Bind film where he does low key spy work. Would be an interesting change of tone.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Back to basics. No backstory. Just introduce him as done in Dr. No. This a younger Bond who's already vetted. Forget about all other Bonds and just start up as if he's always been Bond. Not related to any villains. And each story stands on its own.

    Sounds simple. I'm with you, but not optimistic.

    I'm with you guys. How could I not be since I posted this very same suggestion a few hours ago.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    JustJames wrote: »
    I just finished the Horowitz CR prequel… if it didn’t crib so shamelessly from the films, it would make a decent reboot period piece.

    I think there are a lot of ideas in Forever and a Day are great for EON to mine, I’d prefer that EON adapt the whole novel, with a modern day setting, like CR. That would be a great place for EON to start for the next James Bond actor.
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    If I remember correctly, John Gardner gave Bond an Uncle Bruce who left 007 inheritance.
    I don't remember any Uncle Bruce in the Fleming novels, so I suppose Bond having a kid named Mathilde is alright then.
    In some ways the Craig era evokes Gardner more than Fleming to me. I could see John Gardner coming up with a SKYFALL type story or NTTD. That isn't really a bad thing, IMO. I'd still like to see some of the Gardner titles used for future films.

    One of his novels should be given the chance at a cinematic Bond adventure. I’d pick either Icebreaker or Nobody Lives Forever. Especially if MGW isn’t going to be in charge for much longer it seems. Ironically, some of his Bond ideas were lifted after Gardner’s novels were published.

    I liked both of those novels, too. Great titles as well.

    These would be good for follow ups for a trilogy.
  • echo wrote: »
    These all have backstory.

    DN: "Your Baretta jammed on your last job."
    OHMSS: "Blofeld's something of a 'must 'with me."
    LALD: "I rather liked Baines." Or "Mrs. Bond?"
    TLD: "If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
    GE: "You were supposed to die for me."

    CR is the only one that doesn't.

    Technically you could make the argument that CR’s “backstory” was Bond’s assassination of both double agents in the pre-title sequence, and Vesper makes a reference to his SAS days during the train scene.

    I do agree with the overall sentiment that another Bond origin story isn’t needed for the next actor.

    Those are pretty loose in the sense that those events are only related to the film in terms of character rather than plot, though.

    The same could be said of the examples cited from DN, LALD, and TLD. Certainly there nice bits of info about Bond even if they don’t go deep. Only OHMSS and GE’s examples are rooted in plot. I think a backstory is alright for the next actor, but I don’t want the series to try to go even younger with the next actor and give us Bond in the SAS or something in service of some arc where he becomes 007 at the end.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited May 2022 Posts: 3,390
    Many people are requesting that the reboot should take in his early years in Royal Navy.
    Who's agree with this?

    If you asked me, I'm not really on board with this idea, because if you're doing it, it would be an another serialized set of films, similar to the Craig Era. I don't know it's just me, you guys? What's your opinion regarding this?

    1. I'm longing for a standalone films, a floating timeline, there's still a continuity but similar to the classic era where there's only references and callbacks, just to avoid that codename theory thing.

    2. And if they're making a set of standalone films again, they can't make a film about his Royal Naval early years, then suddenly shift to where he's already an MI6 agent on a mission, that 'Bond in his Royal Naval Years' would look out of place.
    If you're going to make it, it should be serialized, it needs to have an arc.
    But again, I want a standalone set of films again.

    3. And Another point I would like to share regarding this was I want a back to basics missions again, just have him at M's office, having a mission briefing, been given a mission and beat the villains and have the Bond girl at the end.

    4. And I think focusing on his Naval background would be boring in my opinion.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,108
    I’m sorry to report this but Cary might not be in the future of James Bond.

    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/cary-fukunaga-allegations/

    I know that he could be difficult to work with, but not in this way.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited May 2022 Posts: 3,390
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I’m sorry to report this but Cary might not be in the future of James Bond.

    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/cary-fukunaga-allegations/

    I know that he could be difficult to work with, but not in this way.

    What?! I'm not sure if that came from reliable sources, because I only trust a very few sites, that can bring me some reliable and real news.
    I will check it out too.
    If proven true, that's sad, not a fan of NTTD, but I think it should not end on this, I think he's a nice guy, he donated some in Ukraine.
    Thanks @MaxCasino
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    I’ll wait for real sources.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited May 2022 Posts: 3,390
    I’ll wait for real sources.

    True. 👍
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    MI6HQ wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I’m sorry to report this but Cary might not be in the future of James Bond.

    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/cary-fukunaga-allegations/

    I know that he could be difficult to work with, but not in this way.

    What?! I'm not sure if that came from reliable sources, because I only trust a very few sites, that can bring me some reliable and real news.
    I will check it out too.
    If proven true, that's sad, not a fan of NTTD, but I think it should not end on this, I think he's a nice guy, he donated some in Ukraine.
    Thanks @MaxCasino

    If true, how ironic. This was the guy that didn't want too much of the old sexist Bond, and who accused Connery's Bond of being a rapist.

    Let's wait to see if this story gets confirmed with other outlets, because it could be just BS.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    They basically describe him as an asshole but that’s it.
  • edited May 2022 Posts: 616
    His career is probably over. At the very least, he won't be invited back for the next Bond movie.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited May 2022 Posts: 4,343
    Over for what?
    Fukunaga is in East Ukraine since over a month, bringing humanitarian goods for people, in a country at war. He’s doing alone for Ukrainians more than all Bond fans, previous Bond directors and actors combined. As far as I’m concerned that’s a brave good man we are speaking of and now his career should be over because he *maybe* tried to have a threesome with two 18+ years old sisters, ages ago?
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited May 2022 Posts: 3,390
    Maybe it's just a fake news, have you seen the news in the other, reliable news outlets?
    We're still not sure if this is real or not.
    Agreed with @Benjamin_Weekly69
    I've checked google, but that issue isn't still around yet.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,492
    Please show us one of these stories from years ago.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    Posts: 652
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I’m sorry to report this but Cary might not be in the future of James Bond.

    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/cary-fukunaga-allegations/

    I know that he could be difficult to work with, but not in this way.

    Par the course for Hollywood types. Every single director and producer implicated in metoo was a self-described feminist. Feminism is a predatory tactic that they use to lure vulnerable women in to abuse them.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    Over for what?
    ...that’s a brave good man we are speaking of and now his career should be over because he *maybe* tried to have a threesome with two 18+ years old sisters, ages ago?

    Sounds to me like they'd be better off casting him as the next James Bond!

  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Unlike a Twitter lynch mo, I will reserve judgement until he is proven guilty.

    It wouldn't be the first time a man has used feminism to hide behind, nor would it be the first time that a woman would lie.
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    He definitely won’t be coming back then. Whether proven true or not, once the accusations come, it’s over for someone.
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    EON probably wishes now they had a time machine and could un-fire Danny Boyle.
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    You know what I just thought of? Not to make light of the situation, but imagine if this had happened during the production of NTTD. It was notoriously troubled pre, post, and during production, and if the allegations had come in the midst of it, we well might have gotten a third director with everything scrapped once more and still be waiting on B25…
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited May 2022 Posts: 1,430
    So far the allegations are allegations. I don't discount these women may have had a bad experience with Fukunaga, and it's entirely plausible he acted inappropriately. This doesn't seem career-ending to me, though. Amber Heard is still a big part of Aquaman 2 and Johnny Depp will surely work again, and that situation is far worse.

    I do think the allegations are worth their own thread, to keep the rest of the site clear of what will likely be months if not years of discussion.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    EON probably wishes now they had a time machine and could un-fire Danny Boyle.

    Why? It’s not like they’re still working with him now.
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    There is one director I’m confident will never get me too’d. Christopher Nolan. The bloke seems to be completely sexless. I don’t even think he touches his wife.
  • If the Amber Heard l/Johnny Depp situation has taught us anything, it’s that we should all be a bit more cautious before jumping to conclusions.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    There is one director I’m confident will never get me too’d. Christopher Nolan. The bloke seems to be completely sexless. I don’t even think he touches his wife.

    That put a smile on my face and yes, I bet you’re right. XD
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    I'm with you guys. How could I not be since I posted this very same suggestion a few hours ago. [/quote]

    I didn't catch your post. Clearly, lots of Bond fans have similar opinions.

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