Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 9,730
    Univex wrote: »
    Fassbender is certainly the one that got away as far as I'm concerned.

    We all like him. It’s that common possible ground I’ve been talking about.

    There are some films in the canon that everybody admits to being good, like FRWL. And there are possible choices going forwards, narrative wise and casting wise that would please everyone, I’m sure of it.

    The “you can’t please everyone “ motto seems to rule every discussion nowadays, being it political or the choosing of drapes. But the truth is consensus exists, we just have to go down the canonical path and tweek it to make it one of quality and freshness. That’s all.

    You don’t need to subvert to inovate or keep something fresh, but you have to bring a new form of high quality and value to it, constantly. So far, I’d say EON has done so, with some margin for exaggeration and miss.

    So I do hope they recognise this common ground, the need to get back to what has always worked, even in the DC tenure, and do it again with increased quality.

    IMO, the production values have increased significantly over the DC tenure, and there’s constantly one thing that is missing, always, ever since CR, and that is solid, quality, intelligent writing. But that’s a matter for other threads.

    There is common ground amongst fans, of this I am sure.

    If they made a solidly writen spy thriller, contained in an exotic location, with the production values of CR, SF or NTTD, with someone like Michael Fassbender, would any fan complain of said choices? Really, anyone?

    Fassbender and a fleming title sign me up
  • edited October 2021 Posts: 12,837
    Common ground amongst fans is a very, very hard thing to achieve though (I’m sure they set out to make the next FRWL every time) and even then, fans are a minority. These are blockbusters made for a very wide audience. And when you try to please literally everyone in an audience that broad, that’s how you end up with something bland and safe like a Marvel film.

    Sam Mendes said it best, Bond isn’t a democracy. It’ll be cast based on the vision of the producers, rather than on what would get the least backlash on this site. I just hope it’s someone with presence, who can bring something new to it. If they manage that and stick him in a GE/CR esque reinvention then I’m sure I’ll be happy.
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    Common ground amongst fans is a very, very hard thing to achieve though (I’m sure they set out to make the next FRWL every time) and even then, fans are a minority. These are blockbusters made for a very wide audience. And when you try to please literally everyone in an audience that broad, that’s how you end up with something bland and safe like a Marvel film.


    I believe MGW has been quoted as saying; "every time we set out to make a new From Russia With Love, but we always end up with another Thunderball".
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I just hope whoever they pick next, they map out a cohesive story and tone then see it through. Enough with trying to tie everything together.
    Pick a direction with Bond #7 and try to get everyone pulling in the same direction

    I don’t think that’ll happen. The films are reactionary. My personal choice would be to follow through on continuity of character rather than narrative. Have each story be it’s own thing but have a subtle character thread run through it. And I don’t mean an ‘arc’ but something akin to Fleming.

    I like that actually. At least some thread through the next set of films. Subtle being a key point, but one that I think would make the films more interesting and give the audiences something "comfortable" or eager to see in the next one.

    The only thing I really do NOT want is a full reboot back to a true rookie 007 or a remake of Casino Royale. Fresh story, 007 agent already has a few missions under his belt. I definitely want Fukunaga back, not just because of his very skillful direction in NTTD, but also because he is versatile and can rise to the challenge of making Bond 26 a great Bond film, with us caring about the character, but not the same tone or heavier psychological delving we got with Daniel Craig's Bond. I love Craig's Bond, but I hope the next set are different enough, but fun and exciting. I do think Fukunaga is versatile enough to do that. And he seems to set himself challenges to go in different directions. I really want Sandgren back; especially if Fukunaga is back. They were a superb team.
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    https://www.thevulcanreporter.com/exclusives/tom-hardy-new-james-bond/?amp

    Well we have our 7th actor



    I wish this was true
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 14,811
    Not sold on Hardy as Bond. Wouldn’t be the worse choice, but he’s a bit to rough and thuggish to play James Bond.
    Also, the story is from 2020, so isn’t relevant. And with his Marvel contract and price range, I’d say he’s unlikely to fit EONs budget.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    edited October 2021 Posts: 1,130
    Omg i think i participated here when Spectre was a big thing and since then I think my picks have changed a bit

    Here my top 3 picks

    1 Henry Cavill
    2 Chris Hemsworth
    3 Charlie Hunnam.

    Chris Hemsworth and Henry Cavill I like them because they both would Be similar takes on Pierce Brosnan who is my favorite Bond.

    Charlie Hunnam I think he is the middle ground between Craig and Brosnan. Let’s say if we Brosnan fans and Craig fans had to negotiate to choose a bond we’d come to the conclusion of choosing Charlie Hunnam.

    Suave and elegant but has the athletic body of Craig and has that rough edge Craig fans loved.
  • Posts: 2,400
    You know, I never really considered this before, but other than the fact that he was arguably at least two or three inches beyond "too tall" for the role, I actually think Christopher Lee had a perfect look to play Bond had he been cast for the first couple films. There is of course also his demeanor, voice, and the fact that he had extensive experience basically being the real-life equivalent of pre-Casino Royale book Bond. I wonder if all of that played into his later being cast as Scaramanga?
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    I think Antony Starr could have been Bond but he's 45 now.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited October 2021 Posts: 7,888
    My girlfriend just introduced me to his show Banshee;; what a fun , crazy , knowingly over the top show. Starr is very good in it

    I also think the Danish actor, Ulrich Thomsen, who plays Proctor on Banshee, could make an interesting Bond villain .
  • cwl007cwl007 England
    Posts: 611
    There are often people suggested on here that I've never seen act or indeed ever even heard of. Anthony Starr falls in to both camps for me, which I find intriguing because there are clearly so many possible/good candidates out there besides the usual tabloid media fodder.
    My hunch is Bond 7 will come from left field, be 'relativly' unknown to a wider audience and take us fans by surprise.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2021 Posts: 14,861
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    I think Antony Starr could have been Bond but he's 45 now.

    He was indeed on the shortlist back in 2005.
    You know, I never really considered this before, but other than the fact that he was arguably at least two or three inches beyond "too tall" for the role, I actually think Christopher Lee had a perfect look to play Bond had he been cast for the first couple films. There is of course also his demeanor, voice, and the fact that he had extensive experience basically being the real-life equivalent of pre-Casino Royale book Bond. I wonder if all of that played into his later being cast as Scaramanga?

    Interesting thought: I can certainly see Fleming agreeing with that as they looked quite similar! (I realise they were distantly related).
  • cwl007 wrote: »
    There are often people suggested on here that I've never seen act or indeed ever even heard of. Anthony Starr falls in to both camps for me, which I find intriguing because there are clearly so many possible/good candidates out there besides the usual tabloid media fodder.
    My hunch is Bond 7 will come from left field, be 'relativly' unknown to a wider audience and take us fans by surprise.

    He is in the boys tv show.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    There are often people suggested on here that I've never seen act or indeed ever even heard of. Anthony Starr falls in to both camps for me, which I find intriguing because there are clearly so many possible/good candidates out there besides the usual tabloid media fodder.
    My hunch is Bond 7 will come from left field, be 'relativly' unknown to a wider audience and take us fans by surprise.

    He is in the boys tv show.

    Where he co-stars with Karl Urban, who was funnily enough also up for Bond at the same time as Starr in 2005.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    cwl007 wrote: »
    There are often people suggested on here that I've never seen act or indeed ever even heard of. Anthony Starr falls in to both camps for me, which I find intriguing because there are clearly so many possible/good candidates out there besides the usual tabloid media fodder.
    My hunch is Bond 7 will come from left field, be 'relativly' unknown to a wider audience and take us fans by surprise.

    He is in the boys tv show.

    Where he co-stars with Karl Urban, who was funnily enough also up for Bond at the same time as Starr in 2005.

    Excellent show, by the way. But I'm not seeing it. I know Starr as Homelander, and perhaps my perception of him is now tainted with regards to Bond. Same for Urban, who I absolutely love in pretty much everything, but can't see as anyone other than Bones anymore (and a true mirror image of DeForest Kelly, by the way.)
  • edited October 2021 Posts: 4,599
    Urban has to be IMHO one of the most tallented guys around. Such a talent and takes on different roles and 100% commits. Hardly recognise him in Bourne. The point re Star Trek is well make. Once an actor takes on a high profile movie role, its "game over" re Bond IMHO.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2021 Posts: 14,861
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    cwl007 wrote: »
    There are often people suggested on here that I've never seen act or indeed ever even heard of. Anthony Starr falls in to both camps for me, which I find intriguing because there are clearly so many possible/good candidates out there besides the usual tabloid media fodder.
    My hunch is Bond 7 will come from left field, be 'relativly' unknown to a wider audience and take us fans by surprise.

    He is in the boys tv show.

    Where he co-stars with Karl Urban, who was funnily enough also up for Bond at the same time as Starr in 2005.

    Excellent show, by the way. But I'm not seeing it. I know Starr as Homelander, and perhaps my perception of him is now tainted with regards to Bond. Same for Urban, who I absolutely love in pretty much everything, but can't see as anyone other than Bones anymore (and a true mirror image of DeForest Kelly, by the way.)

    That's interesting: I don't seem him as only McCoy at all, I think he still does loads of things brilliantly. Yeah, I'm not sure I quite see them as Bond either, but I guess it was good they explored lots of interesting candidates and didn't limit their search- I want them to be looking at people I can't quite see as Bond. Hopefully they'll be doing the same this time.
    Urban is a good lead so may have made a good fist of it, but The Boys does show that he's perhaps not in possession of the most convincing English accent, so maybe it's for the best! :D
  • Posts: 14,797
    Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but here's some news about Tom Hopper: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1509431/next-james-bond-netflix-tom-hopper-tom-hardy-richard-madden/amp

    Don't know about the reliability of this article and I don't know much about Tom Hopper, but I do remember thinking he could be considered a candidate for Bond when I saw him in Game of Thrones. Don't know why, but it did cross my mind.
  • Posts: 6,665
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but here's some news about Tom Hopper: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1509431/next-james-bond-netflix-tom-hopper-tom-hardy-richard-madden/amp

    Don't know about the reliability of this article and I don't know much about Tom Hopper, but I do remember thinking he could be considered a candidate for Bond when I saw him in Game of Thrones. Don't know why, but it did cross my mind.

    A bit of a gorilla isn’t he?

    (For those who’ve seen The Umbrella Academy ;) )
  • Posts: 14,797
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but here's some news about Tom Hopper: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1509431/next-james-bond-netflix-tom-hopper-tom-hardy-richard-madden/amp

    Don't know about the reliability of this article and I don't know much about Tom Hopper, but I do remember thinking he could be considered a candidate for Bond when I saw him in Game of Thrones. Don't know why, but it did cross my mind.

    A bit of a gorilla isn’t he?

    (For those who’ve seen The Umbrella Academy ;) )

    I haven't seen it in anything else than GoT. Or at least I haven't noticed him in anything else. I'm going to ask the same question I ask about many if them: can he look manly clean shaved?
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
    edited October 2021 Posts: 686
    I was surprised how solid he was in Black Sails, as I'd written him off before then as just a male-model type. That said, I know he's been the lead in a terrible budget actioner which no doubt has done him no favours credibility-wise. Probably a case of being a solid actor but not a star.

    Also: is 6'4'' actually too tall for Bond? It would give him credibility in the action scenes (he already works out - I once suggested him to be cast as Captain Britain if Marvel were to ever adapt that character), but he'd really stand out in a crowd.

    Having said that, if he gets an audition and aces it, why not?

    Edit: I see he's down as the lead in two upcoming films, plus he's support in the upcoming Resident Evil: Racoon City, so perhaps he is gaining credibility?
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    I was surprised how solid he was in Black Sails, as I'd written him off before then as just a male-model type. That said, I know he's been the lead in a terrible budget actioner which no doubt has done him no favours credibility-wise. Probably a case of being a solid actor but not a star.

    Also: is 6'4'' actually too tall for Bond? It would give him credibility in the action scenes (he already works out - I once suggested him to be cast as Captain Britain if Marvel were to ever adapt that character), but he'd really stand out in a crowd.

    Having said that, if he gets an audition and aces it, why not?

    I'd tend to say 6'4 is maybe a tad too tall. Also at 36, he might be a bit old when the next movie is released, especially if they keep the gap that long between films. That said, if nothing else it's refreshing to see a proper unknown being mentioned and allegedly having a fair chance.

    Question: when was Craig first publicly mentioned as a contender? When did we learn the EON was considering him?
  • edited October 2021 Posts: 6,665
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but here's some news about Tom Hopper: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1509431/next-james-bond-netflix-tom-hopper-tom-hardy-richard-madden/amp

    Don't know about the reliability of this article and I don't know much about Tom Hopper, but I do remember thinking he could be considered a candidate for Bond when I saw him in Game of Thrones. Don't know why, but it did cross my mind.

    A bit of a gorilla isn’t he?

    (For those who’ve seen The Umbrella Academy ;) )

    I haven't seen it in anything else than GoT. Or at least I haven't noticed him in anything else. I'm going to ask the same question I ask about many if them: can he look manly clean shaved?

    He’s too manly, lol, and too tall. A beast. And I haven’t seen anything from him that informed me on his acting skills. He’s bland. James Bland? ;) He was Sam Heughan’s partner in that awful SAS film and he disappeared every time Sam was on screen.
  • Posts: 14,797
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but here's some news about Tom Hopper: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1509431/next-james-bond-netflix-tom-hopper-tom-hardy-richard-madden/amp

    Don't know about the reliability of this article and I don't know much about Tom Hopper, but I do remember thinking he could be considered a candidate for Bond when I saw him in Game of Thrones. Don't know why, but it did cross my mind.

    A bit of a gorilla isn’t he?

    (For those who’ve seen The Umbrella Academy ;) )

    I haven't seen it in anything else than GoT. Or at least I haven't noticed him in anything else. I'm going to ask the same question I ask about many if them: can he look manly clean shaved?

    He’s too manly, lol, and too tall. A beast. And I haven’t seen anything from him that informed me on his acting skills. He’s bland. James Bland? ;) He was Sam Heughan’s partner in that awful SAS film and he disappeared every time Sam was on screen.

    In terms of blandness, surely he can't be any worse than James Norton, whose often been mentioned as a potential Bond. I'm not convinced, but at least it's an unexpected name. Hopefully more lesser known actors will be mentioned in the future. I find it more interesting to speculate on them than Tom Hardy, Henry Cavill and Aidan Turner.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2021 Posts: 14,861
    I was surprised how solid he was in Black Sails, as I'd written him off before then as just a male-model type. That said, I know he's been the lead in a terrible budget actioner which no doubt has done him no favours credibility-wise. Probably a case of being a solid actor but not a star.

    Yeah I remember him being in Robin Hood and Doctor Who and lots of other bit part bits and varying from fine to quite bad- I expect he's improved since then but I think he's another Sam Heaugan type who looks vaguely right but isn't a star.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I was surprised how solid he was in Black Sails, as I'd written him off before then as just a male-model type. That said, I know he's been the lead in a terrible budget actioner which no doubt has done him no favours credibility-wise. Probably a case of being a solid actor but not a star.

    Also: is 6'4'' actually too tall for Bond? It would give him credibility in the action scenes (he already works out - I once suggested him to be cast as Captain Britain if Marvel were to ever adapt that character), but he'd really stand out in a crowd.

    Having said that, if he gets an audition and aces it, why not?

    I'd tend to say 6'4 is maybe a tad too tall. Also at 36, he might be a bit old when the next movie is released, especially if they keep the gap that long between films. That said, if nothing else it's refreshing to see a proper unknown being mentioned and allegedly having a fair chance.

    Question: when was Craig first publicly mentioned as a contender? When did we learn the EON was considering him?

    A few months before he was announced.
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    Yes, I remember it was all very, very fast.
  • Posts: 14,797
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I was surprised how solid he was in Black Sails, as I'd written him off before then as just a male-model type. That said, I know he's been the lead in a terrible budget actioner which no doubt has done him no favours credibility-wise. Probably a case of being a solid actor but not a star.

    Also: is 6'4'' actually too tall for Bond? It would give him credibility in the action scenes (he already works out - I once suggested him to be cast as Captain Britain if Marvel were to ever adapt that character), but he'd really stand out in a crowd.

    Having said that, if he gets an audition and aces it, why not?

    I'd tend to say 6'4 is maybe a tad too tall. Also at 36, he might be a bit old when the next movie is released, especially if they keep the gap that long between films. That said, if nothing else it's refreshing to see a proper unknown being mentioned and allegedly having a fair chance.

    Question: when was Craig first publicly mentioned as a contender? When did we learn the EON was considering him?

    A few months before he was announced.

    Anybody has a link to the earliest(ish) mention of his name in the news?
    mtm wrote: »
    I was surprised how solid he was in Black Sails, as I'd written him off before then as just a male-model type. That said, I know he's been the lead in a terrible budget actioner which no doubt has done him no favours credibility-wise. Probably a case of being a solid actor but not a star.

    Yeah I remember him being in Robin Hood and Doctor Who and lots of other bit part bits and varying from fine to quite bad- I expect he's improved since then but I think he's another Sam Heaugan type who looks vaguely right but isn't a star.

    Nobody can be good in BBC's Robin Hood. Nobody. However talented. When Guy of Gisbourne is more handsome, more charismatic, more commanding, more everything than your Robin, you know you have serious issues.
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    Ludovico wrote: »

    Nobody can be good in BBC's Robin Hood. Nobody. However talented. When Guy of Gisbourne is more handsome, more charismatic, more commanding, more everything than your Robin, you know you have serious issues.

    Talking of Guy of Gisborne, you've touched a sore spot here ;) It has been 15 years, and he has done his share of spy/action series in Strike Back and Berlin Station, but I still regret not getting Richard Armitage as Bond:
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  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited October 2021 Posts: 5,921
    jobo wrote: »
    Common ground amongst fans is a very, very hard thing to achieve though (I’m sure they set out to make the next FRWL every time) and even then, fans are a minority. These are blockbusters made for a very wide audience. And when you try to please literally everyone in an audience that broad, that’s how you end up with something bland and safe like a Marvel film.


    I believe MGW has been quoted as saying; "every time we set out to make a new From Russia With Love, but we always end up with another Thunderball".

    That's a good quote. It's hard--but not impossible--to cut back on the stunts and spectacle.

    Odds are that B26 will be a good film. Look at DN, OHMSS, LALD, TLD, GE, and CR. I like those odds.
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