NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • Posts: 1,394
    Well well well,it seems Simu liu running his mouth off is coming back to haunt him.Turns out he criticised China a few years ago in an interview for the Canadian broadcast company,and as a result it’s looking unlikely that Shang-Chi is getting a China release.Also the second weekend numbers are not looking good...

  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    https://www.dvdsreleases.com/movies/bond-25-dvd-release-date/
    Sorry if already posted but they say the blu-ray release will be on
    the 14th January 2022
  • AstonLotus wrote: »
    Well well well,it seems Simu liu running his mouth off is coming back to haunt him.Turns out he criticised China a few years ago in an interview for the Canadian broadcast company,and as a result it’s looking unlikely that Shang-Chi is getting a China release.Also the second weekend numbers are not looking good...

    That -67% was a drop from the first Friday when compared to the second Friday, which isn't very abnormal. It made another $35.8 million for the weekend. A bit more of a dip than the average Marvel drop, but pretty good without China and slow theater going. I don't feel Liu spoke too soon and I'm not sure where all this Liu/Shang-Chi negativity is stemming from. The video, at the very least, is disengenious.

    The China thing is something else, but I agree with Liu's comments about the People's Republic of China. Eternals might have the same problem as director Chloé Zhao has made similar comments.

    It's a constant game with releasing movies in China, whether it be re-editing sections or just outright being banned. China has some pretty strict standards about what can be shown, visually and politically. The bottom line is Simu Liu and Chloé Zhao spoke their minds about how the PRC treats people and personally, I see nothing wrong with that. Marvel knew this when making these films and expected as much.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Looking at that youtuber’s list of content, seems to be just another fan agitator that @AstonLotus is addicted to. No different than other YouTube losers like Doomcock, Midnight’s Edge, and Nerdrotic.
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    Looking at that youtuber’s list of content, seems to be just another fan agitator that @AstonLotus is addicted to. No different than other YouTube losers like Doomcock, Midnight’s Edge, and Nerdrotic.

    All those YouTube channels have the same hyperaggressive thumbnails. Good tell whether or not they are a serious individual.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Well well well,it seems Simu liu running his mouth off is coming back to haunt him.Turns out he criticised China a few years ago in an interview for the Canadian broadcast company,and as a result it’s looking unlikely that Shang-Chi is getting a China release.Also the second weekend numbers are not looking good...


    Shang-Chi had an estimated $38.5 million second weekend, with roughly 3.9 million tickets sold. That's not only the best second weekend of the pandemic era, but the best second weekend since Rise of Skywalker. It also had the 7th best second weekend drop out of all the Marvel films with 52.5%.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Well well well,it seems Simu liu running his mouth off is coming back to haunt him.Turns out he criticised China a few years ago in an interview for the Canadian broadcast company,and as a result it’s looking unlikely that Shang-Chi is getting a China release.Also the second weekend numbers are not looking good...


    Shang-Chi had an estimated $38.5 million second weekend, with roughly 3.9 million tickets sold. That's not only the best second weekend of the pandemic era, but the best second weekend since Rise of Skywalker. It also had the 7th best second weekend drop out of all the Marvel films with 52.5%.

    LOL.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    “Spoke too soon” indeed.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    “Spoke too soon” indeed.

    :))
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    edited September 2021 Posts: 2,494
    A little bit of news from the UK box office:

    "In the first 24 hours customers booked as many seats at Vue cinemas as booked for Spectre in its first four and a half weeks. "

    https://thetimes.co.uk/article/why-bond-will-never-be-the-same-again-after-no-time-to-die-zg8sn8d6l
  • MalloryMallory Do mosquitoes have friends?
    Posts: 2,036
    @Red_Snow I saw that in the article. From what I have seen (anecdotally) the screenings all local to me are are 65-70% sold and thats only going to increase. I think the film is going to absolutely explode on opening weekend.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    @Mallory That's fantastic news.

    I fear it wont be the case here in Australia. Most people I know are seeking the "alternate" method of viewing, and if the film is good will go and see it at the cinema.

    For reference, at the Australian box office:

    SPECTRE - $25.4 million
    Skyfall - $59.9 million
    Quantum of Solace - $20.1 million
    Casino Royale - $25.3 million


  • MalloryMallory Do mosquitoes have friends?
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    @Mallory That's fantastic news.

    I fear it wont be the case here in Australia. Most people I know are seeking the "alternate" method of viewing, and if the film is good will go and see it at the cinema.

    For reference, at the Australian box office:

    SPECTRE - $25.4 million
    Skyfall - $59.9 million
    Quantum of Solace - $20.1 million
    Casino Royale - $25.3 million


    Surprised at the gap between Skyfall and Spectre. Like SP is more than half of SF...
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Mallory wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    @Mallory That's fantastic news.

    I fear it wont be the case here in Australia. Most people I know are seeking the "alternate" method of viewing, and if the film is good will go and see it at the cinema.

    For reference, at the Australian box office:

    SPECTRE - $25.4 million
    Skyfall - $59.9 million
    Quantum of Solace - $20.1 million
    Casino Royale - $25.3 million


    Surprised at the gap between Skyfall and Spectre. Like SP is more than half of SF...

    I don't recall how good/bad/mixed the reviews were, but it seems the Australian box office follows the good/bad/good/bad review pattern in terms of their viewing habits.

    Even if it follows the pattern, I don't expect it to make as much as it could and should have. I don't know how comfortable people will feel returning to the cinema in key Australian markets, even if we have been locked down since June.

  • Posts: 1,545
    Pirating on home video is diminishing revenue for new movies to a degree more significant than ever before...disappointing.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Thank God the only thing available online will be a shitty cam recording.
  • Posts: 1,545
    matt_u wrote: »
    Thank God the only thing available online will be a shitty cam recording.

    Actually, no. Pirating is not comprised only of people sneakily recording the film as shown in a theater. Not nearly. There are films currently available from streamers that also are available without charge, online.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Since62 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Thank God the only thing available online will be a shitty cam recording.

    Actually, no. Pirating is not comprised only of people sneakily recording the film as shown in a theater. Not nearly. There are films currently available from streamers that also are available without charge, online.

    Considering this will be a theatrical only release, it's likely that the only version online to be pirated will be garbage cam quality for the time being.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Since62 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Thank God the only thing available online will be a shitty cam recording.

    Actually, no. Pirating is not comprised only of people sneakily recording the film as shown in a theater. Not nearly. There are films currently available from streamers that also are available without charge, online.

    Actually yes since NTTD will be a theaters only release for months and that means the only pirated files available online will be shitty cam recording, like it always have been for non season awards films before Covid.
  • Posts: 1,545
    Wow good grief yes of course once the film is available by VOD...at THAT point the film-makers will get robbed.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,372
    Since62 wrote: »
    Wow good grief yes of course once the film is available by VOD...at THAT point the film-makers will get robbed.

    Even before then, no doubt, though I'd imagine most won't want their first viewing of the film to be some garbage quality cam version.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    Wow good grief yes of course once the film is available by VOD...at THAT point the film-makers will get robbed.

    Even before then, no doubt, though I'd imagine most won't want their first viewing of the film to be some garbage quality cam version.

    That’s the point. One thing is watch a film pirated in 4K day and date (like it will happen with Dune in the US) one thing is a trash copy filmed in a theater.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 3,160
    Wow...the demand for NTTD is huge here. Tickets went on sale 8 hours ago, and I don't think I have ever seen such a high demand for an opening weekend (Thu-Sun).

    FINALLY....it's happening:
    j2QuTVm.jpeg

  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,494
    Will ‘Venom’ and ‘No Time to Die’ Inject the Box Office With Much-Needed Momentum?
    https://variety.com/2021/film/news/venom-no-time-to-die-box-office-1235068281

  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 12,916
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Will ‘Venom’ and ‘No Time to Die’ Inject the Box Office With Much-Needed Momentum?
    https://variety.com/2021/film/news/venom-no-time-to-die-box-office-1235068281
    Yes.

  • Posts: 12,243
    NTTD ticket sales seem to be doing well at my closest theater when I check out the reserved seats.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,598
    I’m cautiously optimistic. Many of the available tickets at The Alamo Drafthouse in Brooklyn (where I live) are already sold for the opening weekend.

    Since Bond fandom tends to be multi-generational, it will be very interesting to see if older viewers (like myself) come out for the film in large numbers. In any case, I already have already voted: NTTD will be the first “current” movie screening for me since the onset of COVID-19. Why?...It is....Bond, James Bond. :D
  • zb007zb007 UK
    Posts: 85
    https://www.dvdsreleases.com/movies/bond-25-dvd-release-date/
    Sorry if already posted but they say the blu-ray release will be on
    the 14th January 2022

    Seen somewhere else it's going to be released just before Christmas might of been on the mi6-hq front page
  • Posts: 3,333
    I've just skimmed back through a few pages and I was surprised not to see this mentioned within any of the comments in reference to NTTD needing to make $900 million to break even. According to Companies House in the U.K No Time To Die once came in budgeted at 199.5 million pounds, but due to interest charges that increased to 214 million pounds. Now, a year later, that figure has increased to 226 million pounds or $314 million for those of you keeping track in the U.S. Once marketing costs are factored in, the amount jumps to $464 million at the lower end. The $900 million global goal comes into play due to the split between the cinematic exhibitor and the film’s distributors, with MGM expecting to take around 50 percent on every dollar spent on tickets worldwide. According to JoBlo, this would mean that the movie would need to make at least $928 million worldwide to put some smiles on some people’s faces and we don’t even get to cheers until it hits the $1 billion threshold.

    Now, I think this movie is going to have a very good opening weekend and will probably do very well overall. I think a lot of people are going to turn out for Daniel Craig's last Bond outing. But whether it's going to get anywhere close to $900 million, I'm less confident about. I think it might hit $600 to $700 million at a stretch, but that's still going to be $200 plus shy of breaking even.

    If you want to read the article in full and where I've pulled some of the quotes from, you can click on the link below...

    https://joblo.com/no-time-to-die-box-office/
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    bondsum wrote: »
    I've just skimmed back through a few pages and I was surprised not to see this mentioned within any of the comments in reference to NTTD needing to make $900 million to break even. According to Companies House in the U.K No Time To Die once came in budgeted at 199.5 million pounds, but due to interest charges that increased to 214 million pounds. Now, a year later, that figure has increased to 226 million pounds or $314 million for those of you keeping track in the U.S. Once marketing costs are factored in, the amount jumps to $464 million at the lower end. The $900 million global goal comes into play due to the split between the cinematic exhibitor and the film’s distributors, with MGM expecting to take around 50 percent on every dollar spent on tickets worldwide. According to JoBlo, this would mean that the movie would need to make at least $928 million worldwide to put some smiles on some people’s faces and we don’t even get to cheers until it hits the $1 billion threshold.

    Now, I think this movie is going to have a very good opening weekend and will probably do very well overall. I think a lot of people are going to turn out for Daniel Craig's last Bond outing. But whether it's going to get anywhere close to $900 million, I'm less confident about. I think it might hit $600 to $700 million at a stretch, but that's still going to be $200 plus shy of breaking even.

    If you want to read the article in full and where I've pulled some of the quotes from, you can click on the link below...

    https://joblo.com/no-time-to-die-box-office/

    I'm pretty sure there's all kinds of product placement and promo money not being accounted for here.
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