Where does Bond go after Craig? *Potential SPOILERS*

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  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Well thank God for that, @FatherValentine!
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    Thanks.

    During my attempts to bring down Gustav Graves I was briefly suspected of being a double agent. But all seems to be cleared up now.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Anyway, Craig aborting his screen-test at lunchtime...anyone heard this story?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yep, heard it before, no idea if it's true.

    He did apparently do it after flying back from the US during 'The Invasion' shooting and was apparently exhausted at the time, so maybe it comes from that.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 1 Posts: 8,833
    Oh I remember where I heard it; it was recently because I only heard it for the first time a couple of weeks ago: it was Craig himself saying it on a podcast interview he did for Spectre. So yes, it's true (or true that Craig said it, anyway). Really good interview.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Ok thanks. Will try to find it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I remembered which it was, it's in here somewhere:


    I found it quite interesting how involved he is with choosing what Bond wears, as well as the other things. It's a good listen.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    mtm wrote: »
    I remembered which it was, it's in here somewhere:


    I found it quite interesting how involved he is with choosing what Bond wears, as well as the other things. It's a good listen.

    I just listened to this driving home from work, that might be my favourite Daniel Craig interview. He seems so calm and relaxed, he sounds like he really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing @mtm mate
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2 Posts: 8,833
    No problem, it is very good isn't it? And they're fans so they ask a few of the questions we'd ask. He does mention the audition thing, doesn't he?

    I tried a few of the guy's other recent podcasts on the strength of it but all he seems to do is ask them about parenting, it's really weird (!).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Is it allowed to ask what General_Graves got banned for?
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    mtm wrote: »
    Is it allowed to ask what General_Graves got banned for?

    I do like the touch of 'License Revoked' on his profile.

    Even Graves himself must recognise that as a nice touch.
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer @ http://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 3 Posts: 14,971
    mtm wrote: »
    Is it allowed to ask what General_Graves got banned for?

    Being a troll. I suspect we've seen him in many different guises here before. The giveaway was the pidgin English posts, the nut allergy detail and the constant "among friends here" catchphrase. It's like he wanted to be banned.
    QsCat wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Is it allowed to ask what General_Graves got banned for?

    I do like the touch of 'License Revoked' on his profile.

    Even Graves himself must recognise that as a nice touch.

    That's standard practice for every member that gets banned here now.
  • Posts: 618
    There's a topic to this thread, is there not ? Of course, it still would beg the question: WHAT is the topic ?
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer @ http://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 4 Posts: 14,971
    Since62 wrote: »
    There's a topic to this thread, is there not ? Of course, it still would beg the question: WHAT is the topic ?

    I suppose you could say that it has its origins in the speculations that have existed since the very beginning of time, on some (at least) superficial level. More specifically, the issue of succession being the main theme, from firstly kings and popes in the age of patronage to premiers in the age of politics to, in this modern celebrity-obsessed age that we currently inhabit, James Bond actors and styles.

    It is at a deeper psychological level no doubt bound up with our inherent human desire to know what comes next in a pattern, what succeeds that which went before and in which ways it will be different to behold from the preceding era. Whether it be kings, popes, premiers or our current throwaway celebrity culture it all boils down to the same curiosity about succession and the future. Our projected hopes and fears, our wishes and desires about the future being thus broadcast in classic message board form. We try to divine all of this with (hopefully) evidence-based reasoned thought and debate and without the aid of dowsing rods, psychic mediumship or crystal balls.

    This specific discussion focuses on who will play said Mr Bond after the incumbent, Daniel Craig, steps down from the role, whenever that may be. It also focuses on the direction the producers, writers and directors of the future will take the Bond series after the Craig era Bond reboot project has concluded.
  • Taylor Sheridan would be a great addition to the creative team. That guy is so good with torytelling. There'd be a really strong backbone in place.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
    edited March 4 Posts: 716
    Too American. And fully unavailable. But also just too American.
    Don't get me wrong, I love the man's work, but he is very much about a certain place and that is the center of North America.
  • I like a lot of his work but yeah it’s all very, very specific in terms theme, character, and location. Sicario did make me think Villeneuve would be a good get for a Bond movie though (maybe his stuff is a bit too dour though), and made me desperately wish they would use Benicio Del Toro as a villain again. He’d be so good as a Scaramanga type hitman out for Bond’s head.
  • Posts: 618
    Where does Bond go after Craig ? Oh, likely the same as ever: work, home, work home, interspersed with grocery store, swanky London gaming clubs, pharmacy, petrol station, self-storage spots, ladies' residences or appointed meeting places, and, when on assignment, the Caribbean, various places in Italy and elsewhere on the European continent, the US once in a while, as well as Asia, Eastern Europe, Iceland, Northern Europe, the Middle East, India and the Seychelles but NEVER, EVER to Australia or Canada !!!
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer @ http://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 14 Posts: 14,971
    Since62 wrote: »
    Where does Bond go after Craig ? Oh, likely the same as ever: work, home, work home, interspersed with grocery store, swanky London gaming clubs, pharmacy, petrol station, self-storage spots, ladies' residences or appointed meeting places, and, when on assignment, the Caribbean, various places in Italy and elsewhere on the European continent, the US once in a while, as well as Asia, Eastern Europe, Iceland, Northern Europe, the Middle East, India and the Seychelles but NEVER, EVER to Australia or Canada !!!

    Exactly. Bond just goes on. The world needs him to. I like your style, sir. :)
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Forever and a Day-Take the time to plan it right. Have Gregg Wilson team up with Barbara Broccoli, with Michael G. Wilson in Cubby's place on GE. Update the story to present day. Have Anthony Horowitz cowrite the screenplay with someone(s) new. No Purvis and Wade! New James Bond, new screenwriters! Get a director who will be true both to the novel and the character of James Bond. Cast an unknown as James Bond, akin to Sean Connery or George Lazenby. Cast a big name actress as Madame Sixtine, I was thinking Gal Gadot. Take Diana Rigg in OHMSS as an example. No Scarlett Johansson or Jennifer Lawrence! Keep Ralph Fiennes as M, recast Moneypenny and Tanner. Hold of on Q, as he isn't in Horowitz's text. Take CR as an example. I think it would be time to bring in May (Bond's housekeeper) for the series, I was thinking Felicity Jones. As for the 007 that is killed in the beginning, I'd have it be Alec Trevelyan. His abandonment and stealing of his 00 number would help setup future stories. The casting can be used for long term planning. Keep it fresh, with ensemble casts of reoccurring characters is my goal (due to my acting background and James Bond fanboyness).

    Well said, and spot on! I agree with pretty much 100% of all this.
    You have great taste mate!

    Thank you! I just finished Forever and a Day. I greatly enjoyed it, and I still feel even stronger now that it would be a great reboot movie for the series, post Daniel Craig. Some of the casting I would have are Felicity Jones for Sixtine, Vincent D’Onofrio as Jean-Paul Scipio and Ralph Fiennes returning as M. I was thinking of using Ana de Armas as Sixtine, and saw her in the part, but NTTD ended that! Overall, I view Anthony Horowitz as the Martin Campbell of Bond authors: a great Midqueal (GE’s opening, TM) and a great origin story CR, FAAD. Ian Fleming would approve. As for Alec Trevelyan, if they don’t use him going forward, just call his appearance a Easter Egg for the fans.
  • Posts: 618
    Upon extensive consideration, I think the next Bond should be introduced to audiences a little differently than in the past. Send him back to...the Office. Yup. No assignments for the moment. Please finish your overdue paperwork. People complaining about the brand of tea in the break-room. Who used up the cream and didn't get a new one ?Report to training for this and that. M gets a mug with "best boss" on it. Bond gets frustrated, throws a fit, resigns, walks out. Everyone watches him in the parking lot from the window. They see him rant and rave some more, though they and the audience cannot hear it. He realizes he can't leave because he does not have the keys to his car. M smiles at the camera, holds up the keys. "He'll be back. Oh, he'll be back." At the end of the credits they put up "James Bond Will Return...in about 5 minutes."
  • Posts: 601
    Since62 wrote: »
    Where does Bond go after Craig ? Oh, likely the same as ever: work, home, work home, interspersed with grocery store, swanky London gaming clubs, pharmacy, petrol station, self-storage spots, ladies' residences or appointed meeting places, and, when on assignment, the Caribbean, various places in Italy and elsewhere on the European continent, the US once in a while, as well as Asia, Eastern Europe, Iceland, Northern Europe, the Middle East, India and the Seychelles but NEVER, EVER to Australia or Canada !!!

    It makes a brutal sort of sense. Nothing geopolitically important ever happens there.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    I Another consideration is that Bond's audience is increasingly less Anglo-Saxon, more diverse and international.

    I don't think there's any real evidence to suggest this. Bond is popular in Europe, UK and US markets just as always. Its franchises like Terminator and transformers which have seen a shift in that respect.

    @Peirce2Craig is correct that some recent trailer have taken a dark turn, ignoring that Marvel has taken a break since Endgame, but even the new Pattinson Batman, as brooding as it looks, is still way more stylised and 'comic book' than the Nolan films (I love Nolan, no hate).

    In the mid-late 2000's there was an obsession to make everything as hard-hitting and realistic as possible. I think overtime this has changed except for Bond which, as long as Craig is around kind of stuck in the same pattern. They can't drastically reinvent the world Bond lives in when they are trying to tell an ongoing story, but it means we are still stuck in a 2008 mindset of taking everything seriously and poe-faced.

    My hope is that once we get a new Bond they will completely redo everything so that we can get more variety of stories in future. Bond is at his best when he not trying to capture reality, but living in domain of his own, where he can ski off a cliff in a banana suit and pop open a union jack parachute like its nothing.

    Which is not to say I want 70's Bond back with nothing changed, that's what we had it SPECTRE and it was very dated and almost self-pardoy. Bond should of course embrace a new aesthetic for the 2020's but all cards should be on the table in creating that vision. The new Batman got me excited because it feels completely original like non of the other movies we've seen, like a new era for the character. Bond needs his own new era, IMO.
  • Posts: 618
    As for my suggestion that Bond NOT go (literally) to Australia or Canada, and it making brutal sense, please know I was merely teasing. There's many a fantastic setting in both countries, but I was making fun of how it's been proposed numerous times, reportedly under consideration at least once, but it never has come to pass !
  • __M____M__ MidwestUSA
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    I have read many pleas for a lighter, more "fun" Bond. Rubbish. Instead of trying to reincarnate Bond every few years, I would like to see a "Fleming" Bond, set in the 50s and early sixties with an actor closer to Fleming's character. To the devil with political correctness, foolishness, science-fiction gadgets and the woke abyss.
  • Posts: 618
    Would that many people really want to see a racist, alcoholic, drug-taking psychopath ?
  • Posts: 2,523
    Since62 wrote: »
    Would that many people really want to see a racist, alcoholic, drug-taking psychopath ?

    Timothy Dalton managed it just fine in my opinion.
  • Posts: 2,523
    __M__ wrote: »
    I have read many pleas for a lighter, more "fun" Bond. Rubbish. Instead of trying to reincarnate Bond every few years, I would like to see a "Fleming" Bond, set in the 50s and early sixties with an actor closer to Fleming's character. To the devil with political correctness, foolishness, science-fiction gadgets and the woke abyss.

    Give this man a beer. Spot on! ^:)^
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Since62 wrote: »
    Would that many people really want to see a racist, alcoholic, drug-taking psychopath ?

    Timothy Dalton managed it just fine in my opinion.

    He didn't really do anything of those things, though. Also, his films made less money.
  • Posts: 2,523
    mtm wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    Would that many people really want to see a racist, alcoholic, drug-taking psychopath ?

    Timothy Dalton managed it just fine in my opinion.

    He didn't really do anything of those things, though. Also, his films made less money.

    He didn't need to, and yet he still got closer to the Fleming character than any previous actor. As for the BO draw, that's a different argument. Maybe audiences were not ready for that kind of Bond back in 1987, yet in 2005 they were. Tastes change over time.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 7 Posts: 8,833
    mtm wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    Would that many people really want to see a racist, alcoholic, drug-taking psychopath ?

    Timothy Dalton managed it just fine in my opinion.

    He didn't really do anything of those things, though. Also, his films made less money.

    He didn't need to,

    But you just said he managed it fine..?
    As for the BO draw, that's a different argument.

    It depends on the definition of 'managing it fine' I think; it is also relevant to Since62's question of whether many people would want to see it.
    Maybe audiences were not ready for that kind of Bond back in 1987, yet in 2005 they were. Tastes change over time.

    Personally I think Craig got what Bond needs to be on screen more than Dalton (or, to be fair to him, perhaps Glen) did. Serious is fine, but without swagger there's much less for the audience to enjoy in the character.

    Personally I don't see the point of period adaptations of the novels: they won't capture the period any better than the actual Bond films made at that time, they'd be horribly expensive, judged against the movie versions which are, in some cases classics, and with plots that don't really work as well on screen as the movie ones. Why watch some guy on a table with a buzzsaw travelling up between his legs when I could be watching Connery with a laser beam, in a Ken Adam set with John Barry's music playing?
    Just enjoy them as the -terrific- books they are.
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