Superman: The Man of Tomorrow

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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Gerard wrote: »
    You mean the Kevin Smith who has been unable to complete many of his projects ? That Kevin Smith who left Batman (and Silver St. Cloud) in a difficult position at the end of a mini-series he still has not completed ? That Kevin Smith ? Yeah, right.

    Now that you mention it, the same Kevin Smith who is all talk, no work, yes. Forget I said anything, everyone’s (fans and crew), so depressed about that movie.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited August 2020 Posts: 2,062
    While not fully Superman, it does have Brainiac, Metropolis and a possibly evil Superman.



    Rocksteady Studios have been working on this for years, I can’t wait for 2022! DC comics entertainment future looks bright!

    https://www.cbr.com/suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league-dc-fandome-panel/
  • Superman IV Nuclear Man with enhanced radiation effects.


    Superan IV images from a cut scene

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'd watch a new version of Supes 4 happily! :)

    And those photos always make me think of the problem with being Superman- he might be strong enough to lift a car up with a finger, but the car isn't! If you put all of its weight on one small point it would just collapse or go straight through. It's always the issue when he picks up a plane or a mountain- you can't pick those things up with such a small point of pressure as a man, they'd just fall apart :)
  • mtm wrote: »
    I'd watch a new version of Supes 4 happily! :)

    And those photos always make me think of the problem with being Superman- he might be strong enough to lift a car up with a finger, but the car isn't! If you put all of its weight on one small point it would just collapse or go straight through. It's always the issue when he picks up a plane or a mountain- you can't pick those things up with such a small point of pressure as a man, they'd just fall apart :)

    True regarding the car, though with the fourth film physics was well and truly out of the window :)) I recall there being 135 minutes in total of footage for Superman IV, the released version was a paltry 90 minutes. Just out of curiosity I would pay for an extended cut of the film, though I have seen a lot of the cut footage and its dreadful.
  • edited January 21 Posts: 15,564
    SUPERMAN AND LOIS Trailer (2021) Superhero Series HD

    Good move by getting rid of the god awful suit, this looks better than I was expecting.

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    Not great though better.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I'd watch a new version of Supes 4 happily! :)

    And those photos always make me think of the problem with being Superman- he might be strong enough to lift a car up with a finger, but the car isn't! If you put all of its weight on one small point it would just collapse or go straight through. It's always the issue when he picks up a plane or a mountain- you can't pick those things up with such a small point of pressure as a man, they'd just fall apart :)

    I was the 2nd assistant film editor (just 20 years old at the time) on Superman IV, and know exactly what happened and why over 30 mins, including Nuclear Man 1 and the big car crush sequence (in those pics), were cut out. The original 2 hour version was much better. Also, I got to know Chris Reeve pretty well because, hoping to move into directing, he wanted to learn all about film editing and so he spent a lot of time with us, closely and enthusiasticly observing the post production process. He was a truly lovely, easy going guy. And he and I really clicked because I loved Superman (saw the original 6 times in the cinema, which impressed him) and I knew all about the character, which, unfortunately, the director didn't! So tragic what happened to Chris Reeve.

  • ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'd watch a new version of Supes 4 happily! :)

    And those photos always make me think of the problem with being Superman- he might be strong enough to lift a car up with a finger, but the car isn't! If you put all of its weight on one small point it would just collapse or go straight through. It's always the issue when he picks up a plane or a mountain- you can't pick those things up with such a small point of pressure as a man, they'd just fall apart :)

    I was the 2nd assistant film editor (just 20 years old at the time) on Superman IV, and know exactly what happened and why over 30 mins, including Nuclear Man 1 and the big car crush sequence (in those pics), were cut out. The original 2 hour version was much better. Also, I got to know Chris Reeve pretty well because, hoping to move into directing, he wanted to learn all about film editing and so he spent a lot of time with us, closely and enthusiasticly observing the post production process. He was a truly lovely, easy going guy. And he and I really clicked because I loved Superman (saw the original 6 times in the cinema, which impressed him) and I knew all about the character, which, unfortunately, the director didn't! So tragic what happened to Chris Reeve.

    Is the deleted scene of the Nuclear Man 1 fight scene on the 2006 DVD truly representative of what was shot, or is there more footage out there of it that hasn't been seen yet?
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'd watch a new version of Supes 4 happily! :)

    And those photos always make me think of the problem with being Superman- he might be strong enough to lift a car up with a finger, but the car isn't! If you put all of its weight on one small point it would just collapse or go straight through. It's always the issue when he picks up a plane or a mountain- you can't pick those things up with such a small point of pressure as a man, they'd just fall apart :)

    I was the 2nd assistant film editor (just 20 years old at the time) on Superman IV, and know exactly what happened and why over 30 mins, including Nuclear Man 1 and the big car crush sequence (in those pics), were cut out. The original 2 hour version was much better. Also, I got to know Chris Reeve pretty well because, hoping to move into directing, he wanted to learn all about film editing and so he spent a lot of time with us, closely and enthusiasticly observing the post production process. He was a truly lovely, easy going guy. And he and I really clicked because I loved Superman (saw the original 6 times in the cinema, which impressed him) and I knew all about the character, which, unfortunately, the director didn't! So tragic what happened to Chris Reeve.

    Is the deleted scene of the Nuclear Man 1 fight scene on the 2006 DVD truly representative of what was shot, or is there more footage out there of it that hasn't been seen yet?

    That is the cut sequence. Plus there were other cuts like the creation of NM 1 - and Clark and Lacy (Mariel Hemingway) on a date in a nightclub - and Nuclear Man 2 turning into a nuclear missile and launching himself at Russia, which was part of the last act.

  • ColonelSun wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'd watch a new version of Supes 4 happily! :)

    And those photos always make me think of the problem with being Superman- he might be strong enough to lift a car up with a finger, but the car isn't! If you put all of its weight on one small point it would just collapse or go straight through. It's always the issue when he picks up a plane or a mountain- you can't pick those things up with such a small point of pressure as a man, they'd just fall apart :)

    I was the 2nd assistant film editor (just 20 years old at the time) on Superman IV, and know exactly what happened and why over 30 mins, including Nuclear Man 1 and the big car crush sequence (in those pics), were cut out. The original 2 hour version was much better. Also, I got to know Chris Reeve pretty well because, hoping to move into directing, he wanted to learn all about film editing and so he spent a lot of time with us, closely and enthusiasticly observing the post production process. He was a truly lovely, easy going guy. And he and I really clicked because I loved Superman (saw the original 6 times in the cinema, which impressed him) and I knew all about the character, which, unfortunately, the director didn't! So tragic what happened to Chris Reeve.

    Is the deleted scene of the Nuclear Man 1 fight scene on the 2006 DVD truly representative of what was shot, or is there more footage out there of it that hasn't been seen yet?

    That is the cut sequence. Plus there were other cuts like the creation of NM 1 - and Clark and Lacy (Mariel Hemingway) on a date in a nightclub - and Nuclear Man 2 turning into a nuclear missile and launching himself at Russia, which was part of the last act.

    I dont know how they would've excecuted the last bit you mentioned with the limited budget!
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'd watch a new version of Supes 4 happily! :)

    And those photos always make me think of the problem with being Superman- he might be strong enough to lift a car up with a finger, but the car isn't! If you put all of its weight on one small point it would just collapse or go straight through. It's always the issue when he picks up a plane or a mountain- you can't pick those things up with such a small point of pressure as a man, they'd just fall apart :)

    I was the 2nd assistant film editor (just 20 years old at the time) on Superman IV, and know exactly what happened and why over 30 mins, including Nuclear Man 1 and the big car crush sequence (in those pics), were cut out. The original 2 hour version was much better. Also, I got to know Chris Reeve pretty well because, hoping to move into directing, he wanted to learn all about film editing and so he spent a lot of time with us, closely and enthusiasticly observing the post production process. He was a truly lovely, easy going guy. And he and I really clicked because I loved Superman (saw the original 6 times in the cinema, which impressed him) and I knew all about the character, which, unfortunately, the director didn't! So tragic what happened to Chris Reeve.

    Is the deleted scene of the Nuclear Man 1 fight scene on the 2006 DVD truly representative of what was shot, or is there more footage out there of it that hasn't been seen yet?

    That is the cut sequence. Plus there were other cuts like the creation of NM 1 - and Clark and Lacy (Mariel Hemingway) on a date in a nightclub - and Nuclear Man 2 turning into a nuclear missile and launching himself at Russia, which was part of the last act.

    I dont know how they would've excecuted the last bit you mentioned with the limited budget!

    Let's just say, animation, and it was not great!
  • edited January 27 Posts: 37
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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Excuse me @ColonelSun, are you actually credited on Superman 4? I’m just curious.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Excuse me @ColonelSun, are you actually credited on Superman 4? I’m just curious.

    Yep, in the end credit roller, for some reason the full crew is not on Imdb, but I think Cannon failed to keep good records of cast and (particularly) crew.

  • edited February 7 Posts: 15,564

    I like the tone and look so far.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited February 16 Posts: 2,062
    https://www.cbr.com/dc-batman-89-superman-78-digital-first/

    Possibly proper and better storylines to follow Richard Donner’s Superman 2. I just hope that it’s not just Lex Luthor or even worse, made up villains for the stories.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited February 16 Posts: 8,381
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.cbr.com/dc-batman-89-superman-78-digital-first/

    Possibly proper and better storylines to follow Richard Donner’s Superman 2. I just hope that it’s not just Lex Luthor or even worse, made up villains for the stories.

    They're fun, it'll be interesting to see if it works.

    I've still got the comic adaptations for the first two Batman movies somewhere, the art for them was really rather excellent.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    MaxCasino wrote: »

    Very cool.

  • Posts: 1,114
    Just caught the first episode of Superman and Lois, I was blown away by it! A fantastic pilot episode that sets up a Superman series with a difference. Seeing Lois and Clark raising two teenage boys is such an interesting premise and it’s refreshing to see these characters thread new ground.
    I’ve aged out of Superhero stuff so to see this angled more towards the family drama side of things makes it much more palatable for me.
    The cast are terrific, the effects are impressive and the story is surprisingly emotional. I’d highly recommend!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited February 24 Posts: 8,381
    That's good to hear, I'll have a look at that. It's just nice they've finally made a TV show of one of the main superheroes without dancing around it like all of the other shows they've been making the last few years: it's young Superman before he was Superman, it's Superman's cousin, it's Batman's cousin, it's Batman's police partner but before he met Batman, it's Batman's butler before he met Batman etc. Just do Batman! :D
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1401964/superman-and-lois-uk-streaming-how-to-watch-superman-and-lois-uk/amp
    Unfortunately channels in the UK have not picked the show up yet, hopefully the early positive buzz will get someone like Sky going in for it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It's usually Sky or Channel 4 who get the Arrow shows, isn't it? Might go to a streamer I suppose.
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    mtm wrote: »
    It's usually Sky or Channel 4 who get the Arrow shows, isn't it? Might go to a streamer I suppose.

    That's right, the recent Batwoman went to E4 though I only watched one episode, that was enough.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes I heard that was a stinker. I watched a few episodes of those Arrow shows and they all seem very similar and completely disposable to me, but lots of people like them so I guess they do their job well and the ones I saw weren't actually bad. Looks like the first episode of this Superman show is getting stronger reviews than those though so I'll certainly check it out when I can.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes I heard that was a stinker. I watched a few episodes of those Arrow shows and they all seem very similar and completely disposable to me, but lots of people like them so I guess they do their job well and the ones I saw weren't actually bad. Looks like the first episode of this Superman show is getting stronger reviews than those though so I'll certainly check it out when I can.

    The early seasons of Arrow were good Season 2 especially. The first episode of The Flash was excellent though the writing steadily declined after that.

    The other CW super hero shows are a very mixed bag, the Superman and Lois show appears to be a reboot of sorts and a tonal shift.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I hope it doesn't link in too much with those shows, it will be annoying if it gets impossible to follow.
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    I’ve never watched any of the previous Arrow or Flash shows. If there were any references from those shows in Superman and Lois then they went completely over my head.
  • Posts: 15,564
    mtm wrote: »
    I hope it doesn't link in too much with those shows, it will be annoying if it gets impossible to follow.

    From one non spoiler review I watched it appears the new show ignores the ArrowVerse and that the time line does not match up, they commented that the show appears to be a soft reboot.
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