Dynamite's Bond comics and graphic novels

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Another fan. I'm so glad. :)
  • It's interesting to find that you enjoyed The Body, @Kronsteen -- as I recall, most of the folks here gave it pretty scathing responses. I think Bond is an especially difficult property to do in comic book form, and the mixed reviews that much of Dynamite's releases receive here only reinforce that view. Consider: a proper Bond story has at least a half-dozen elements that are required (Bond himself, including his lifestyle and his smoking/drinking/eating habits; the villain, including henchpersons and dastardly world-threatening plot; the romantic interest plus various other gorgeous beauties filling in the scenery; the world-trotting locations Bond inhabits, his gadgets & gizmos -- to say nothing of his supporting cast such as M, Q, Moneypenny, Leiter etc.)...now add a few gun battles, car chases, fist fights... and fit it all into 20 pages or so, the size of a standard monthly comic book. Can't be done, not in a satisfactory fashion, not in what some folks like to call a "floppy." You need something the size of a graphic novel to present a proper Bond story. That's why I like these Fleming adaptations so much... and that's why I suspect Dynamite is going to keep presenting these GNs for as long as they can. I suspect these novels are finding a marketplace beyond the monthly releases...bookstores and the like.

    @DarthDimi, I'd be surprised if any parents are buying these Fleming adaptations for their 12 year olds, not at $25 a pop. A $3 or $4 monthly comic, maybe. More likely the kids are just staring into their computer screens... I suspect that most 12 year olds aren't really all that interested in comic books these days -- 15 to 25 year olds are more than likely the presumed readership for modern comic books. Read a current issue of X-Men and I think you'll agree, the level of sophistication expected of mainstream comic book readership is way beyond the Bugs Bunny level!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Has anyone read James Bond #2 yet? I know the first issue wasn’t warmly received.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    Can't wait to read LALD now when it's finally out.

    Reading CR while listening to CR film soundtrack has been such a enjoyment.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    Just read it.

    Yup. Better than #1 for sure. Ending is a little bit jarring. I like that there's an improvement from #1 and there's some potential here even if it is all a bit ham fisted so far.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Has anyone read James Bond #2 yet? I know the first issue wasn’t warmly received.

    I read it and regret doing so. It's a very dull story lacking in espionage and the codes and conventions of a Bond story. While I appreciate that they are trying something different, it's strange in that Bond is a side character, similar to his role in the Oddjob series.
    With the exception of Origin Dynamite have really dropped the ball.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I'm astonished that so few here have read LALD at this point. Keep the reviews coming, folks.
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    Well I have written one, but in french...
  • MaxCasino wrote: »
    Has anyone read James Bond #2 yet? I know the first issue wasn’t warmly received.

    I've read the second issue as well and found it a little better than the first but still a very poor Bond story. I've lost all interest in the plot line already! Thinking about dropping this one especially given how long Oddjob went on I could not take another 10 issues of this.

    Although looking at the sales figures of 7,188 for the first issue I'd be surprised if it lasted beyond 6 issues.
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm astonished that so few here have read LALD at this point. Keep the reviews coming, folks.

    I've got LALD but i think it will take me a while to get to it as I've a few other books to read first.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited January 2020 Posts: 5,172
    I have LALD at home, and i wanna take my proper time with this, looks really good so far. And since my gut feeling is telling me this could be the last Dynamite comic i'll ever buy, i am not exactly in a hurry.

    As for issue #2 of the hilariously named "James Bond"... i pretty much said my piece on the last page about this series, and i see no reason to change my opinion. It feels like someone was trying to write a story outline based on the NTTD Trailer, mainly the interaction between Nomi and Bond, and stretched it out to a whole series without any context.

    The new characters are annoying as hell, Bond is not the lead character, and since this has been established for 2/6 or the story now, it will not miraculously change.
    I am not even really interested in Reflections of Death because it features the same writers, but we'll see.

    As long as Diggle isn't coming back to finish what he started, or Moustafa, Percy, Parker or Robinson, i will be very cautious about new output from Dynamite.
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    I have it in pre-order and not have yet picked up my comics for the month of January and as it also has Conan the hour of the Dragon complete it might take some time to get to LALD the comic.
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    Very reluctant to get back into the Dynamite comics, apart from the Fleming adaptations. 'The Body' was the last full one I read. As disappointing as it was, I had been hopeful for the next one (Goldfinger return) and didn't to read 'Origins'. Part of me wants to try again, but after hearing about the recent entries I just don't think we'll reach the levels of Ellis or Diggle again.
  • mrlynxmrlynx Maine
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    I finished Live and Let Die last weekend. It's IRONCLAD. While the amount of text tends to weigh down any chance of style, the character artwork is fantastic - Felix and James's friendship really shines through. Mr Big is out of this world. He's drawn a bit younger than I pictured, but his facial expressions matched with his brilliant monologues brought the voice of James Earl Jones to mind. His death scene is very haunting. I was relieved that they dropped the n word from the chapter title and instead used the US version's "Seventh Avenue." Overall the depictions of African Americans are respectful - they're villains who just happen to be POC. Bond's dispatching of TeeHee and the others was brutally illustrated - it made me positively reevaluate Fleming's ability to write a violent getaway! Bond's appearance is a bit off putting at first; remember that he's given a military haircut early on and for most of the book has a close-cropped, slicked back 'doo.

    Although I appreciated Casino Royale, this adaptation is more on par with what I wanted from these graphic novels. Here's hoping the artists return for subsequent entries - particularly Diamonds are Forever for the gangster violence, and Doctor No for the villain design and designs of Quarrel and Strangways!!
  • KronsteenKronsteen Stockholm
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm astonished that so few here have read LALD at this point. Keep the reviews coming, folks.

    I hope a lot of Bond fans finds their way to LALD and buy it. It's definately worth every penny! If it sells well, the chances are bigger they'll continue on with Moonraker as well [-O<
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Kronsteen wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm astonished that so few here have read LALD at this point. Keep the reviews coming, folks.

    I hope a lot of Bond fans finds their way to LALD and buy it. It's definately worth every penny! If it sells well, the chances are bigger they'll continue on with Moonraker as well [-O<

    If Dynamite does Moonraker, expect many delays. Every graphic novel of theirs does, Fleming or original.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Kronsteen wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm astonished that so few here have read LALD at this point. Keep the reviews coming, folks.

    I hope a lot of Bond fans finds their way to LALD and buy it. It's definately worth every penny! If it sells well, the chances are bigger they'll continue on with Moonraker as well [-O<

    I've read most Bond graphic novels from dynamite so far. I liked them but didn't love them for different reasons. While most of them are a bit too violent and too packed with head shots etc, the problem of Casino Royale was that it was too similar to the novel. I understand that this is the reason why some of you love it even more, but why shouldn't I just read the novel when the text is identical anyway?
    The other issue is that I didn't like the violet/pink colour of the CR images and even Vesper was drawn sometimes very unattractive.
    To sum up: I'm not sure yet if I will buy LALD...
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Kronsteen wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm astonished that so few here have read LALD at this point. Keep the reviews coming, folks.

    I hope a lot of Bond fans finds their way to LALD and buy it. It's definately worth every penny! If it sells well, the chances are bigger they'll continue on with Moonraker as well [-O<

    ...but why shouldn't I just read the novel when the text is identical anyway?
    The other issue is that I didn't like the violet/pink colour of the CR images and even Vesper was drawn sometimes very unattractive.
    To sum up: I'm not sure yet if I will buy LALD...

    The artwork. That's why I bought it. Buying the comic is just another way of consuming a story you love. Like why people buy different editions of books when the text is the same.

    I know nothing about comic art, but there's an obvious difference between the CR and LALD adaptations. CR is more 'shadowy' and darker in the colours and more abstract in the illustrations. The panelling is quite rectangular and regular.

    LALD is much much more colourful, panels are varied and dynamic (circular panels, action moments are given special framing) and character art is more detailed and colourful. The cover for the book is enough reason to get it, and I was surprised they were both drawn by Fay Dalton (of Folio Society book fame)
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    mrlynx wrote: »
    I was relieved that they dropped the n word from the chapter title and instead used the US version's "Seventh Avenue." !

    No, non, and no : censor is not a good thing!

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mrlynx wrote: »
    I was relieved that they dropped the n word from the chapter title and instead used the US version's "Seventh Avenue." !

    No, non, and no : censor is not a good thing!

    I too am principally opposed to censorship but the word is like TNT these days and we don't want explosive situations.
  • edited January 2020 Posts: 774
    And what? We pretend that the racism in Bond novel, and this line in particulary, never existed? Fotunally they didn't erase the racial element completly (but do things in half?). The point of the graphic adaptation, why they are praised, is because the are extremelly faithfull to the original novels. It's not their role to rewrite them or to judge them. The good and the bad side must be show equally for be the most faithfull possible to the original material. It's my opinion. I was dissapointed that they use the censured title of that chapter just to please people could be "shocked" (or pretend to be) to find such a word in a book written 70 years ago and find it his faithfull adaptation... I's my opinion and it's the same debate of when new (censured) editions editions of the novels was realase few year ago.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    mrlynx wrote: »
    I was relieved that they dropped the n word from the chapter title and instead used the US version's "Seventh Avenue." !

    No, non, and no : censor is not a good thing!

    I too am principally opposed to censorship but the word is like TNT these days and we don't want explosive situations.

    It’s a tough call with this one. I’m glad they left it in the Folio Society LALD and the penguin collection I have at home, but I’m ok with them changing it for the graphic novel. These publications are a way to bring in new fans of literary Fleming and it’d be understandable if this level of 50’s racist language would turn people away. Let the collectors and long time fans have their untouched editions, and let the graphic novels be for a wider range of fans.
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    Here's the cover for James Bond # 5 :

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    Fakes are everywhere. 007 has no clue who to trust. His training and intuition are all that stand between the shadows and the light.

    By VITA AYALA (Morbius, Gamora), DANNY LORE (Queen Of Bad Dreams) and ERICA D'URSO (Captain Marvel).

    In Shops: Apr 08, 2020

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  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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  • edited February 2020 Posts: 774
    Is it surprise any one if I say that it's no get me excited ? Big in the recent adaptation of LALD was nice (and enough), but did I want to see him elsewhere ? No...
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 5,172
    ggl007 wrote: »

    "We want you all to get hyped, because we noticed that the series is crashing and burning in reviews and must be in sales as well, so Dynamite asked us to do some damage control with a social Media post."

    That being said i actually like the idea of bringing in Mr. Big. It's in continuity with the latest Goldfinger series, and since the newest release was LALD and Mr. Big was a great villain in that, i can see potential there... BUT this series has been a dumpster fire from the start and I am not getting more excited with or without Mr. Big, and I don't really trust these writers to do it justice. Time will tell.

    I'm on my last two chapters of LALD and will post my thoughts here shortly on that.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited February 2020 Posts: 2,062
    I had a feeling that it would be Blofeld. Maybe in Reflections of Death. I hope they do it justice.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Looks like Reflections of Death has a new release date.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    00Agent wrote: »


    Looks like Reflections of Death has a new release date.

    Amazon has it on April 14. Just after NTTD opens.
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    Well a new delay, how original it is... It's like if they never learn.
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