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"You're in the minority on Pattinson mate"
Fair enough but if you looked through previous pages you will see i am not alone buddy. All the award in the world won't convince me but you still haven't said what scene exactly you came across that made you think - this guy would be a great bond. Do you believe the credibility of an actor only lies on how many awards he/she wins. Him winning an Oscar has nothing to do with your basic argument for playing bond, eon choose artists for the last two bond film's who have won Oscar or had potential to do so(waltz/Smith etc.), how would you say that turned out for us minor fans?
"I think you've got to accept he has something about him even if you don't see it"
If i haven't seen any potential in him how can I accept that.
"People said that DC would be a crap bond"
Well I don't know about crap but I like his two films(CR & SF), still he is not my favorite bond. A lot of people still aren't happy with his films here as well. I can tell you one thing though next bond actor won't be anything like DC because another unique face or origin bond is less likely to work in the coming decade as it would be repeating the same thing all over again but it won't be on a lighter tone like Roger or pierce films either. I have got a good feeling that it would be something akin to Timonthy's TLD. That's why someone like Turner has a better chance than others.
"This site or big fans in general are definitely more male dominated but we don't matter. The masses are what matters. A lot of those masses are women".
When you say we(men)don't matter is clear indication of what I was trying to convey in my first comment to you. The masses are surely women no doubt about that but those masses also want to see female bond(Jane bond) one day, if that day ever comes (god forbid) i would gladly be in the minority to dismiss that.
"So I think your dismissal of womens opinions"
I didn't dismiss all of them, only the one's who judge an actor solely based on the looks and i can tell you they are not in the minority. Only a few of them gave proper reasons why Pattison is so great.
"the part where they're most relevant for Bond, the man who - men want to be, women want to be with"
I can perfectly understand women want to be with but how many men want to be like Pattison or Murphy as of now i am only hearing you say this.
"When it comes to Bond's sex appeal, female opinion matters more than ours, just as male opinion matters more for the sex appeal of the Bond girls"
If male opinions matters then how come we don't have traditional bond girls anymore, what we see today are mostly pretentious one's pretending to be strong. It's funny that men's opinion doesn't matter on bond girls anymore. We don't have a single actress in NTTD who isn't holding a gun(Lea doesn't count ). I don't see feminine bond girls like Solitaire,Domino,kara etc.. mostly arrogant and abnoxious one's. Do you see many men find Lynch's character sexy (nothing against her of course but I don't see the appeal).
"You're not going to convince me otherwise because I know what I saw in him so as I said before, it's subjective, we're going to have to agree to disagree"
Yes let's just agree to disagree here as we haven't discuss a single Scene where i could see the appeal. I like Murphy to be very honest but far from Connery. There isn't a single actor in our time that i could think would be close to the effortless acting,sophistication and looks to match Connery and this is coming from a guy who grew up watching Craig's bond not Connery.
If they're going to make Bond American, then surely there's only one choice...
Even has the same initials as our beloved character.
Why not make Jane bond. I want Rebecca Ferguson to play it :P . Bond will make 3 Billion by breaking endgame record :))
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10720136/james-norton-tipped-next-james-bond/
He seems kind of bland and unimaginative. I've not seen him in anything, but he seems a little boring and obvious. I can't really anticipate what kinda Bond he'd be....maybe another Pierce Brosnan sort. Looking at him, I think I'd prefer Henry Cavill (and that's saying something).
He looks and sounds like a toff. More Made in Chelsea than 007.
Couldn't agree more. There's no way they're going to announce a new James Bond, only a few months before the release of Craig's final film.
Unless they're mad. No it's obviously tabloid crap.
His trajectory isn't that dissimilar to Craig, he certainly can act convincingly and is far cry from a plank of wood like Cavill.
Though this just sounds like a bunch of BS so take it with a warehouse amount of salt.
As far as Norton goes though, I like him as an actor, and can see him as Bond given the right script etc. – but his voice is too soft for my liking.
I don't like Norton particularly. I've seen that Grantchester show and it was like having an opium derived injection with every single episode. Besides, if I were a villain I'd ask him constantly: Why the long face? As he has that particularly strange jaw line :-D
And...if we think Barbara has already settled in an actor whilst Craig is Bond, we're insane.
:)) I was thinking the same which salt are we talking about ?
mine salt /Grain salt /Warehouse salt
Didn't Cubby ask his wife about Connery before casting him because he wasn't sure? And she basically said "phwooar"!
The appeal of the lead actor to the female audience has always been a key factor in the casting consideration. Babs got it just right with DC as CR proved.
However that is irrelevant. The average movie goer who has a fleeting interest in Bond, will watch the new film when it comes out, who probably barely knows anything about the new release yet, let alone how the re casting of a new actor has been dealt with in the past, and then will move on to the next new film of the week WILL believe the tabloid rumours.
That's all The Sun etc need to peddle their circulation.
Yes I am aware of that and nothing wrong in it but was that the only reason they selected Connery? There are many factors at play.
I didn't completely disagree with that. I don't know if you know this or not but pierce is quite popular in ladies than Daniel.
My whole point was if women's opinion on men's appeal matters then why we stop taking or considering men's opinion about bond girl's sexual appeal. The latest one is Lynch, do you really think men actually find her attractive. Here's our leading characters from Craig Era. Make it what you will.
I certainly don't mind her looks (better with longer hair though – as seen in the Jamaica part of the trailer). But I also don't think Nomi will be a Bond girl type role, but rather a 00 who happens to be female.
I get that but I was actually talking about leading actress be more sexually appealing to mass audience as much bond matters to other gender. As I said before why do they need to have every single female character in action. Why we don't have solitaire,Kara in our time.
Vesper is the only one they got right and forgive me but any actress apart from Villian or M should be consider a bond girl even a 00.
I suspect the leading actress in NTTD will (again) be Léa Seydoux, so whether a different character is less appealing to some, I really don't care about. I do wish we get a Solitaire/Kara etc type of main Bond girl again (I like the type of characters who unwillingly becomes a part of a villain's plot), but as far as any actress beside the villain, M or Moneypenny having to fill the role of a Bond girl, I disagree with.
No issues. Just like Women want their male 007 to be physically appealing I also want my female 007 to be physically appealing,as of now I am disappointed. Although I am still in doubt if she is actually 007. We have yet to see that.
Likewise, no problem. And I agree, we don't have it confirmed yet that she is 007 (but I imagine she is), so that's why I wrote 00, not 007. ;-)
As far as attractiveness goes, that's obviously an individual matter; I know women who don't think Craig has the right look for Bond for example.
Well, I must say they've painted themselves into a corner by starting with Eva Green (and Caterina Murino). I mean, where do you go after that? ;)
Olga :x :x :x
Every women except one or two whom I know or talked to only find pierce attractive.
Funny thing my gf love Daniel. Sometimes I have to say this to her.
" what the hell is wrong with you" :))
After that you will always have her
Funny enough, Pierce has been a favourite of the same women I referred to. Pierce no doubt left his mark on the role, no matter what some may suggest. He probably had that sort of looks that could easily be accepted or recognised as Bond.
Haha, keep doing that! :))
Exactly.