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  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Just talked to one of the prop masters who worked on both Skyfall and Spectre. Said he is not coming back. Not really big news or anything but just another tidbit.

    Cary is really bringing his own crew in which isn’t uncommon. I think the only thing that bothers me slightly is the fact that he is used to Netflix and Tv level shows.

    Bond is a blockbuster. It’s like Harry Potter, LOTR, Transformers, Star Wars, one of the huge movie franchises.

    I do like what I see though. Can’t really tell what the quality level will be until we get a trailer. I know Cary is amazing at story telling, dialogue and action sequences. So there’s that. Not sure how the Netflix to the big screen will pan out for him.
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    So there’s that. Not sure how the Netflix to the big screen will pan out for him.

    Umm, he has directed movies for the big screen before...
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited July 2019 Posts: 2,619
    So there’s that. Not sure how the Netflix to the big screen will pan out for him.

    Umm, he has directed movies for the big screen before...

    Only one film Fukunaga made was released by Netflix and they bought distribution rights after filming wrapped, I believe.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited July 2019 Posts: 1,003
    So there’s that. Not sure how the Netflix to the big screen will pan out for him.

    Umm, he has directed movies for the big screen before...

    Only one film Fukunaga made was released by Netflix and they bought distribution rights after filming wrapped, I believe.

    My bad, True Detective wasn't a netflix show. HBO.

    Yes, the "one movie" was a netflix film.

    "Fukunaga directed, wrote and filmed Beasts of No Nation, based on the novel of the same name by Uzodinma Iweala, in which Idris Elba stars as Commandant, a lead character.[21] The movie was picked up by Netflix for a reported $12 million as part of an effort to expand into original films.[22] On November 25, 2015, Fukunaga was nominated for the Independent Spirit Award for Best Director and Best Cinematography for his work on Beasts of No Nation, and the film received a nomination for Best Feature."



    Also look...


    "Fukunaga directed all eight episodes of the first season of the 2014 HBO TV series True Detective, which was written and created by novelist and screenwriter Nic Pizzolatto.[24] The series stars Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson and Michelle Monaghan. Fukunaga served as an Executive Producer on the show. The series received critical praise and was nominated for five Primetime Emmy Awards, including Outstanding Drama Series and Outstanding Directing for Fukunaga, who won. For the second season of True Detective, Fukunaga did not return as director, but continued to serve as executive producer.[8][25][26][27][28][29]

    Fukunaga directed all ten episodes of the dark comedy series Maniac for Netflix.[30] It premiered on September 21, 2018."




    So Maniac, Beasts Of No Nation were netflix.

    True Detective was HBO.


    He did direct Jane Eyre in 2011 which had a box office of $35M and
    Sin Nombre in 2009 had $7M.


    My point is that he isn't a movie guy. The two films he put out had a very limited theater release and a very low box office.


    A majority of his work as a director was a netflix show and a netflix film. Followed by an HBO tv series. Then the other two films had a very small release. Jane Eyre was only released in four total theaters in the USA..

    Please show me where he made over $100M on a film that had a theater release and was released worldwide? Look at the directors for Star Wars, Mission Impossible, Transformers etc. They all put out films which are released worldwide and make big box office money...
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    edited July 2019 Posts: 1,165
    I think you may have missed their point about Beasts of No Nation, Casino. The film was made, then sold to Netflix for distribution. It was not "made for TV", as you're attempting to make it sound.
    On August 20, 2013, Idris Elba joined the cast of the film adaptation.[4] On June 6, 2014, Ghanaian actors Ama K. Abebrese, Grace Nortey and David Dontoh joined the film.[10] Later, Opeyemi Fagbohungbe also joined the cast.[11]

    Red Crown Productions was the financier and producer, along with Primary Productions and Parliament of Owls.[4] On May 17, 2014, Participant Media, along with Mammoth Entertainment, came on board to co-finance the film, initially budgeted at $4.3 million but which ultimately cost about $6 million.[2]

    On June 5, 2014, principal photography was underway in the Eastern Region of Ghana.[10][14][15] The film was shot at locations in Koforidua and Ezile Bay at Akwidaa.[16] Dan Romer scored the film.[17]
    All well before Netflix buying and releasing the film in 2015.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited July 2019 Posts: 2,619
    So there’s that. Not sure how the Netflix to the big screen will pan out for him.

    Umm, he has directed movies for the big screen before...

    Only one film Fukunaga made was released by Netflix and they bought distribution rights after filming wrapped, I believe.

    My bad, True Detective wasn't a netflix show. HBO.

    Yes, the "one movie" was a netflix film.

    "Fukunaga directed, wrote and filmed Beasts of No Nation, based on the novel of the same name by Uzodinma Iweala, in which Idris Elba stars as Commandant, a lead character.[21] The movie was picked up by Netflix for a reported $12 million as part of an effort to expand into original films.[22] On November 25, 2015, Fukunaga was nominated for the Independent Spirit Award for Best Director and Best Cinematography for his work on Beasts of No Nation, and the film received a nomination for Best Feature."



    Also look...


    "Fukunaga directed all eight episodes of the first season of the 2014 HBO TV series True Detective, which was written and created by novelist and screenwriter Nic Pizzolatto.[24] The series stars Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson and Michelle Monaghan. Fukunaga served as an Executive Producer on the show. The series received critical praise and was nominated for five Primetime Emmy Awards, including Outstanding Drama Series and Outstanding Directing for Fukunaga, who won. For the second season of True Detective, Fukunaga did not return as director, but continued to serve as executive producer.[8][25][26][27][28][29]

    Fukunaga directed all ten episodes of the dark comedy series Maniac for Netflix.[30] It premiered on September 21, 2018."




    So Maniac, Beasts Of No Nation were netflix.

    True Detective was HBO.


    He did direct Jane Eyre in 2011 which had a box office of $35M and
    Sin Nombre in 2009 had $7M.


    My point is that he isn't a movie guy. The two films he put out had a very limited theater release and a very low box office.


    A majority of his work as a director was a netflix show and a netflix film. Followed by an HBO tv series. Then the other two films had a very small release. Jane Eyre was only released in four total theaters in the USA..

    Please show me where he made over $100M on a film that had a theater release and was released worldwide? Look at the directors for Star Wars, Mission Impossible, Transformers etc. They all put out films which are released worldwide and make big box office money...

    But with your argument a pre-2006 JJ Abrams wouldn’t be a movie guy either. Before directing Mission Impossible III, he was perhaps best known as a writer and creator of numerous TV shows including Alias and Lost. You shouldn’t discount Cary Fukunaga because of a perceived lack of experience.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited July 2019 Posts: 1,003
    Minion wrote: »
    I think you may have missed their point about Beasts of No Nation, Casino. The film was made, then sold to Netflix for distribution. It was not "made for TV", as you're attempting to make it sound.
    On August 20, 2013, Idris Elba joined the cast of the film adaptation.[4] On June 6, 2014, Ghanaian actors Ama K. Abebrese, Grace Nortey and David Dontoh joined the film.[10] Later, Opeyemi Fagbohungbe also joined the cast.[11]

    Red Crown Productions was the financier and producer, along with Primary Productions and Parliament of Owls.[4] On May 17, 2014, Participant Media, along with Mammoth Entertainment, came on board to co-finance the film, initially budgeted at $4.3 million but which ultimately cost about $6 million.[2]

    On June 5, 2014, principal photography was underway in the Eastern Region of Ghana.[10][14][15] The film was shot at locations in Koforidua and Ezile Bay at Akwidaa.[16] Dan Romer scored the film.[17]
    All well before Netflix buying and releasing the film in 2015.



    What does that have to do with anything? You guys are missing the point completely..

    His budget was $4M, an extra $2M was given but the box office was $900,000 with a very very limited release.

    Bond has a budget of what $100M to $200M?? We are talking about one project he did. A majority of his work was made for netflix and HBO. He has never done a big budget action film before.

    I worked in the film industry for 12 years. HBO production staff versus a big budget film crew are incredibly different.

    I am not hating at all, I am just pointing out that he isn't a well known big budget movie director who has directed big budget theatrical releases before.



    Even if it was made prior to netlfix obtaining the rights he still had a small crew.


    The easiest way I can simplify it is

    Pro athletes versus division one college players.

    Whole different ball park. I know camera men and actors who have worked on HBO films but a Bond film would be over their head.





    1) Campbell
    2) Forster
    3) Mendes


    All directed big budget films with worldwide releases prior to Bond.

    Cary hasn't..
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 7,586
    My point is that he isn't a movie guy. The two films he put out had a very limited theater release and a very low box office.

    With great respect, this is bollocks. He made movies didn't he? How many Bond directors crossed $100million at the box-office outside the series? How many directed big budget, high octane adventures before taking the director's chair?

    And, again, with great respect, it takes ten times more patience and ability to handle stress to direct ten+ hours of TV in six months than it does to create a two hour film in that same timeframe.

  • edited July 2019 Posts: 16,480
    Personally, the thing that intrigues me with Fukunaga is the lack of blockbuster experience. Is it a risk on EON's side? Maybe. But I'd rather have an up-and-coming director than a big-budget director that can just as likely be too set in his/her ways.

    We don't know what to expect, and that's part of the fun, IMO.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Personally, the thing that intrigues me with Fukunaga is the lack of blockbuster experience. Is it a risk on EON's side? Maybe. But I'd rather have an up-and-coming director than a big-budget director that can just as likely be too set in his/her ways.

    We don't know what to expect, and that's part of the fun, IMO.



    EXACTLY! I am not hating or dissing him at all. He responded two a couple of my comments and messages. Super nice guy and I have high expectations for Bond 25..

    I was saying that it will be interesting to see how someone with virtually no blockbuster experience will do with Bond.
    My point is that he isn't a movie guy. The two films he put out had a very limited theater release and a very low box office.


    With great respect, this is bollocks. He made movies didn't he? How many Bond directors crossed $100million at the box-office outside the series? How many directed big budget, high octane adventures before taking the director's chair?

    And, again, with great respect, it takes ten times more patience and ability to handle stress to direct ten+ hours of TV in six months than it does to create a two hour film in that same timeframe.




    They all had at least 1-2 films that were major hits before Bond. Brosnan - Craig. Not before that. Those were different times lol.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Spielberg started making films for television. He went "big" soon thereafter. Peter Jackson came from cheapies and failures before he did LOTR. Martin Campbell came from simpler things when he did GoldenEye. The biggest thing Kubrick had done was Paths of Glory, and then he did Spartacus.

    Isn't it more important where Fukunaga's talents lie, rather than the scope of the films he's made thus far?
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    Maybe what Bond needs is a smaller, more focused director like this one, as compared to a blockbuster director who might only care about the macro aspects of film making.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    I'm fairly certain Fukunaga would laugh at being labelled "not a movie guy."
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Spielberg started making films for television. He went "big" soon thereafter. Peter Jackson came from cheapies and failures before he did LOTR. Martin Campbell came from simpler things when he did GoldenEye. The biggest thing Kubrick had done was Paths of Glory, and then he did Spartacus.

    Isn't it more important where Fukunaga's talents lie, rather than the scope of the films he's made thus far?

    Again, different times. This is 2019.. When have we ever had a Bond film in production with a cast, script and director that got cancelled? Then they panic and pick Cary?

    I think the movie will be great but I am a bit worried about the quality of it..

    Craig's LAST film. Here is 5 big directors would have been a safe bet.

    1) Martin Scorsese

    2) Denis Villeneuve

    3) Matthew Vaughn

    4) David Yates

    5) Alfonso Cuarón
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    No director is a 100% “safe bet.” Experience can be a great asset, but any director no matter how prestigious can still produce a flop, many times because of the script.
  • edited July 2019 Posts: 5,869
    He's a massive Kubrick fan, one of his favourite film is Spielberg's Empire of the Sun, he has a great eye for aesthetics, he is innovative and creates good narratives. Besides being a good writer he's also a brilliant cinematographer.

    That's all I have to know.

    Besides, I've seen his films and shows, and he's a great director. Jane Eyre was amazing.

    If you want to talk about a true tv director, who makes all of his films look like tv films, talk about Michael Apted.

    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Spielberg started making films for television. He went "big" soon thereafter. Peter Jackson came from cheapies and failures before he did LOTR. Martin Campbell came from simpler things when he did GoldenEye. The biggest thing Kubrick had done was Paths of Glory, and then he did Spartacus.

    Isn't it more important where Fukunaga's talents lie, rather than the scope of the films he's made thus far?

    Exactly!
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    Maybe someone set can up a thread called “personal worries and concerns” and then anyond of a fretful nature can worry away over on that. Can we keep this on bond 25 production?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 22,005
    Here is 5 big directors would have been a safe bet.

    1) Martin Scorsese

    2) Denis Villeneuve

    3) Matthew Vaughn

    4) David Yates

    5) Alfonso Cuarón

    I love them all but I'm still not sure about the "safe bet" part. Can a director ever be a "safe bet"?
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Here is 5 big directors would have been a safe bet.

    1) Martin Scorsese

    2) Denis Villeneuve

    3) Matthew Vaughn

    4) David Yates

    5) Alfonso Cuarón

    I love them all but I'm still not sure about the "safe bet" part. Can a director ever be a "safe bet"?


    Absolutely. Well in my opinion. Look at the box offices those directors have brought in.


    If you are looking at directors who have brought in $100M plus then thats a safe bet, versus someone who brought in $35M.


    Cary is amazing at thrillers and science fiction. So I think he will be fine.




    NEWS: "David Dencik as Waldo, a villain" was posted on wikipedia. Not sure how accurate that is but interesting!
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,619
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Here is 5 big directors would have been a safe bet.

    1) Martin Scorsese

    2) Denis Villeneuve

    3) Matthew Vaughn

    4) David Yates

    5) Alfonso Cuarón

    I love them all but I'm still not sure about the "safe bet" part. Can a director ever be a "safe bet"?


    Absolutely. Well in my opinion. Look at the box offices those directors have brought in.


    If you are looking at directors who have brought in $100M plus then thats a safe bet, versus someone who brought in $35M.


    Cary is amazing at thrillers and science fiction. So I think he will be fine.




    NEWS: "David Dencik as Waldo, a villain" was posted on wikipedia. Not sure how accurate that is but interesting!

    Bond’s enough of a known name to bring in box office $$ without the need of a big name director.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Here is 5 big directors would have been a safe bet.

    1) Martin Scorsese

    2) Denis Villeneuve

    3) Matthew Vaughn

    4) David Yates

    5) Alfonso Cuarón

    I love them all but I'm still not sure about the "safe bet" part. Can a director ever be a "safe bet"?


    Absolutely. Well in my opinion. Look at the box offices those directors have brought in.


    If you are looking at directors who have brought in $100M plus then thats a safe bet, versus someone who brought in $35M.


    Cary is amazing at thrillers and science fiction. So I think he will be fine.




    NEWS: "David Dencik as Waldo, a villain" was posted on wikipedia. Not sure how accurate that is but interesting!

    Bond’s enough of a known name to bring in box office $$ without the need of a big name director.



    True but having any of the directors I mentioned would increase the hype for it. You can't deny that. Look at Christopher Nolan or Martin Scorsese for example.

    HUGE hype around anything he does.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    Martin Scorcese is never going to direct a Bond film.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
    Posts: 349
    I trust Cary. He's a visionary filmmaker. David Yates directed Harry Potter without big budget film experience. It doesn't matter. Ridley Scott has directed some fantastic big budget films, but his creativity has long since gone. Cary is an ideas man with an eye for great imagery. He's also a good storyteller. Worry not, dear Bond fanatics...
  • edited July 2019 Posts: 16,480
    NEWS: "David Dencik as Waldo, a villain" was posted on wikipedia. Not sure how accurate that is but interesting!

    David Dencik playing…
    a villain has been reported by several Scandinavian news websites going all the way back to the Jamaica announcement.

    That's not a confirmation of course, and I seem to recall a mention of him playing the scientist – and not a villain, but I can't be sure.
  • duke_togoduke_togo france
    Posts: 138
    Fukunaga is way more gifted than David Yates and the very overrated Villeneuve...
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    NEWS: "David Dencik as Waldo, a villain" was posted on wikipedia. Not sure how accurate that is but interesting!

    David Dencik playing…
    a villain has been reported by several Scandinavian news websites going all the way back to the Jamaica announcement.

    That's not a confirmation of course, and I seem to recall a mention of him playing the scientist – and not a villain, but I can't be sure.


    First time I am hearing about the name "WALDO", not really a spoiler imo.

  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited July 2019 Posts: 3,126
    Why we need vesper back in the fold Bond was clearly done with her with Vesper tape from Spectre unless we get to finally see the interrogation in all its glory.
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    Come on, John Watts was a tv commercial director and he directed two successful spiderman huge blockbuster productions, in the marvel universe that will not tolerate a flop. Sam Mendes a good movie director had never directed any big blockbuster films, but only low budget emotional films and he gave us skyfall which had the biggest box office ever bond had.
  • edited July 2019 Posts: 16,480
    NEWS: "David Dencik as Waldo, a villain" was posted on wikipedia. Not sure how accurate that is but interesting!

    David Dencik playing…
    a villain has been reported by several Scandinavian news websites going all the way back to the Jamaica announcement.

    That's not a confirmation of course, and I seem to recall a mention of him playing the scientist – and not a villain, but I can't be sure.


    First time I am hearing about the name "WALDO", not really a spoiler imo.

    Well, it's the thread that's trying to be somewhat spoiler free, so I thought it better to just pop it inside the spoiler tag in any case. Re. Dencik's character name, that was dropped shortly after the announcement.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,205
    Minion wrote: »
    I think you may have missed their point about Beasts of No Nation, Casino. The film was made, then sold to Netflix for distribution. It was not "made for TV", as you're attempting to make it sound.
    On August 20, 2013, Idris Elba joined the cast of the film adaptation.[4] On June 6, 2014, Ghanaian actors Ama K. Abebrese, Grace Nortey and David Dontoh joined the film.[10] Later, Opeyemi Fagbohungbe also joined the cast.[11]

    Red Crown Productions was the financier and producer, along with Primary Productions and Parliament of Owls.[4] On May 17, 2014, Participant Media, along with Mammoth Entertainment, came on board to co-finance the film, initially budgeted at $4.3 million but which ultimately cost about $6 million.[2]

    On June 5, 2014, principal photography was underway in the Eastern Region of Ghana.[10][14][15] The film was shot at locations in Koforidua and Ezile Bay at Akwidaa.[16] Dan Romer scored the film.[17]
    All well before Netflix buying and releasing the film in 2015.



    What does that have to do with anything? You guys are missing the point completely..

    His budget was $4M, an extra $2M was given but the box office was $900,000 with a very very limited release.

    Bond has a budget of what $100M to $200M?? We are talking about one project he did. A majority of his work was made for netflix and HBO. He has never done a big budget action film before.

    I worked in the film industry for 12 years. HBO production staff versus a big budget film crew are incredibly different.

    I am not hating at all, I am just pointing out that he isn't a well known big budget movie director who has directed big budget theatrical releases before.



    Even if it was made prior to netlfix obtaining the rights he still had a small crew.


    The easiest way I can simplify it is

    Pro athletes versus division one college players.

    Whole different ball park. I know camera men and actors who have worked on HBO films but a Bond film would be over their head.





    1) Campbell
    2) Forster
    3) Mendes


    All directed big budget films with worldwide releases prior to Bond.

    Cary hasn't..

    What did Peter Hunt direct before OHMSS?
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