Rate the Various Categories - The Films!!! 2021 - Final Community Ratings

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  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,418
    It appears that we have not done a Dalton film. Time to remedy that methinks...

    The Living Daylights

    /10
    1. Direction - 9 (One of Glen's better films)
    2. Screenplay - 9 (superb right proportions of espionage, intrigue, romance and violence)
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 10 (one of the best plots in Bondom IMHO)
    5. Action - 9
    6. Main Villain - 7 (Koskov is slimy, but hardly theaterning)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9 (great chemistry with Mr Dalton)
    8. Bond - 10 (supremely nuanced performance by Dalton)
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 10 (the Master signed off with one of his best scores)
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 5
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 4 (minus marks for the Aston Martin I'm afraid)
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 5

    Overall 130/150

    Percentage: 86.66%

    Remember the first twelve categories are out of 10, and the latter six are out of 5
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    TLD

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain - 3
    7. Main Bond Girl - 3
    8. Bond - 7
    9. Sets - 6
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 8

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 3

    101/150
    67%
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    The Living Daylights (1987)

    1. Direction - 9
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 7
    4. Plot - 4
    5. Action - 9
    6. Main Villain - 3
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 5
    10. Music - 10
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 10

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 2
    14. Main Titles - 5
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 5

    114/150

    76%

  • 1. Direction - 9
    2. Screenplay - 10
    3. Script - 10
    4. Plot - 10
    5. Action - 10
    6. Main Villain - 7 (Koskov is brilliant, but Whitaker isn't amazing)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond - 10
    9. Sets - 8
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming - 10

    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 5

    136/150
    90.6%

    We go from my least favourite Bond fim, to this one, my favourite. I just love it.
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    1. Direction - 9
    2. Screenplay - 9
    3. Script - 7
    4. Plot - 10
    5. Action - 10
    6. Main Villain - 4
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond - 10
    9. Sets - 5
    10. Music - 10
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 5

    82.67%
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    So far my results have been in line with my actual ranking, with the exception of GoldenEye, which is actually one place behind The Living Daylights.

    Percentage results so far-

    1. Goldfinger 80.7%
    2. GoldenEye 77%
    3. The Living Daylights 76%
    4. Skyfall 72.7%
    5. Dr. No 68.7%
    6. The Man With the Golden Gun 62.7%
    7. Moonraker 61.3%

    Actual ranking-

    23- Die Another Day
    22- Moonraker
    21- Tomorrow Never Dies
    20- The World is Not Enough
    19- The Man With the Golden Gun
    18- Dr. No
    17- Diamonds Are Forever
    16- Thunderball V
    15- You Only Live Twice
    14- Quantum of Solace
    13- Octopussy
    12- Live and Let Die
    11- Skyfall
    10- Casino Royale
    9- From Russia With Love
    8- The Spy Who Loved Me
    7- GoldenEye
    6- The Living Daylights
    5- Licence to Kill
    4- For Your Eyes Only
    3- Goldfinger
    2- A View to a Kill
    1- On Her Majesty's Secret Service
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    1. Direction - 4
    2. Screenplay - 5
    3. Script - 7
    4. Plot - 6
    5. Action - 9
    6. Main Villain - 5
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond - 10
    9. Sets - 4
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 7

    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt - 2

    99/150

    66%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,418
    Thank you peeps!

    Grand idea that @MayDayDiVicenzo;

    Our overall, combined, ranking:

    GoldenEye - 78.94%
    Dr No- 78.7%
    Goldfinger - 77.23%
    Skyfall - 75.4%
    Moonraker - 67.4%
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 61.33%

    My % ratings:

    DN - 87.3%
    TLD - 86.66%
    GF - 86% 
    SF - 84.6% 
    GE - 74.66%
    MR - 73.3% 
    GG - 62%


    And my personal rankings:

    1. From Russia With Love
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. Casino Royale
    4. Licence To Kill
    5. The World Is Not Enough
    6. The Living Daylights
    7. Thunderball
    8. Skyfall
    9. Dr No
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me
    11. Goldfinger
    12. Tomorrow Never Dies
    13. Octopussy
    14. For Your Eyes Only
    15. GoldenEye
    16. Quantum of Solace
    17. You Only Live Twice
    18. Moonraker
    19. Live and Let Die
    20. A View To A Kill
    21. Die Another Day
    22. The Man With The Golden Gun
    23. Diamonds Are Forever


    Interesting reading...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,449
    TLD

    1. Direction - 9
    2. Screenplay - 8
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 9
    6. Main Villain - 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond - 10
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 8

    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 4

    123/150

    82%
  • Posts: 2,400
    1. Direction - 10. Glen's best work.
    2. Screenplay - 10
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 10
    5. Action - 10
    6. Main Villain - 7 (Lowest score for this film. Koskov is great but Whitaker bogs it down).
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9 (Minus 1 for the occasional moments of stupidity. Otherwise Kara is a brilliant character).
    8. Bond - 10 (Possibly the series' best).
    9. Sets - 9
    10. Music - 10 (One of the absolute best scores in the series).
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming - 10

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 5
    14. Main Titles - 3 - A bit tired at this point.
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt - 5

    141/150. Wow, nearly perfect marks.

    94%. What a film.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited February 2014 Posts: 4,416
    /10
    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 7
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 6.5 (Kos Kov)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 9
    10. Music - 9.5 (John Barry, The Pretenders, A-H and Bill Conti thank you! )
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming - 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 3 (6/10) Thanks to Whitaker... X_X, Felix and no Lois Maxwell.
    14. Main Titles - 2 (4/10)
    15. Plausibility - 4 (8/10)
    16. Pace - 4 (8/10)
    17. Editing - 4 (8/10)
    18. Tilt - 3.5 (7.5/10)

    TLD be upset of GE and follower of OHMSS, FYEO and example how CR and Skyfall can have handle things. Not realy fan of this Felix. TLD music have same power as Bill Conti FYEO. John Barry deliever a theme score with inspiration of the title song and songs of The Pretenders. David Arnold later also use title songs as inspiration. TLD is one of those more dificult movies, you must learn to like.

    Place in my top 23: 9/23
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 5,745
    I'd hate to piss on anyone's parade, but I don't see how you can give the screenplay a perfect score, and the the villain a less than perfect score. If the villain is the victim of flawed writing, the screenplay is flawed.

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 7 (virtually the same as a screenplay)
    4. Plot - 9
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 5
    8. Bond - 8
    9. Sets - 7 (average of Locations being a 9 and Set Pieces being a 5. Locations should have its own category.)
    10. Music - 10
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming - 8 (No film should have a perfect score, no film has yet to properly adapt Fleming's creation 99.9%)

    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 2 (1.5pts for the song alone)
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 4

    110/150= 73%
    With my changes in the ranking system...

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Locations - 9
    4. Plot - 9
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 5
    8. Bond - 8
    9. Set Pieces - 5
    10. Music - 10
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming - 8
    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 2 (1.5pts for the song alone)
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 4

    ...its still 110/150, I just feel it's a more accurate display of the final score. It wouldn't be the same on every film. The mountains in the aircraft scene are jarring once you notice the inconsistency with the actual shots filmed mid-air. Most of this film was shot on a real location (if not THE real location) so out of the few set pieces, they weren't very good in contrast to the real places used.
  • Posts: 2,400
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    I'd hate to piss on anyone's parade, but I don't see how you can give the screenplay a perfect score, and the the villain a less than perfect score. If the villain is the victim of flawed writing, the screenplay is flawed.

    I love Koskov. I think Whitaker is the victim of a terrible actor, not bad writing.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 8
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 9
    6. Main Villain - 5
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 9
    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 4

    Score: 115/150 (76.7)
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    The Living Daylights

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 6
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain - 2
    7. Main Bond Girl - 3
    8. Bond - 5
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 6
    12. Fleming - 8

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 4

  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,418
    Any more votes before I round this 'un up at the weekend?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    The Living Daylights

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 8
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 9
    5. Action - 10
    6. Main Villain - 7
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond - 10
    9. Sets - 8
    10. Music - 10
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 9

    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt - 5

    131/150
  • TLD

    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 8
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 10
    6. Main Villain - 5
    7. Main Bond Girl - 10
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 6
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 8

    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 4
  • 1. Direction - 9
    2. Screenplay - 9
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain - 8.5
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 9
    10. Music - 9.5
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 9
    13. Supporting Cast - 5
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 7
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt - 5

    You're a John Barry fan and you gave a 4 for music? Blasphemy!

    Must have been on something...9.5 is more like it. I just love "The sniper was a woman" from the soundtrack.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    1. Direction - 9
    2. Screenplay - 9
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain - 8.5
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 9
    10. Music - 9.5
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 9
    13. Supporting Cast - 5
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 7
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt - 5

    You're a John Barry fan and you gave a 4 for music? Blasphemy!

    Must have been on something...9.5 is more like it. I just love "The sniper was a woman" from the soundtrack.

    Phew. I personally think that TLD was one of Barry's best works along with OHMSS.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,418
    Now then, shall we get going? Without further ado, here's our provisional rankings;

    GoldenEye - 78.94%
    Dr No- 78.7%
    Goldfinger - 77.23%
    Skyfall - 75.4%
    Moonraker - 67.4%
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 61.33%

    and so where does The Living Daylights fit into that? Well...

    The Living Daylights - 78.61%

    TLD is provisionally third, not too bad. Although I fear it will drop over time. Ah well. ;-)






    And now time for some actual discussion:

    Is it higher/lower than your own ratings?

    Personal % - 86.66. Community % - 78.61. Hmm, lower. Still not everyone’s a Dalton fan.

    What is your favourite category/element/thing in the film? 

    I feel that this is the most perfectly balanced film of the eighties; violence, sophistication, action, intrigue and, a fair bit of romance. However, my favourite aspect of this film is Mr Dalton - a superbly nuanced performance.

    What surprised you the most, while reading other peoples ratings? 

    Again nothing. And everyone liked the Master's score for once!!!

    Feel free to comment! Another Bond film coming soon...


  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited March 2014 Posts: 4,418
    New week, new Bond;

    Diamonds Are Forever

    1. Direction - 6 (sloppy)
    2. Screenplay - 6
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 5
    5. Action - 4
    6. Main Villain - 6 (great turn by Grey, but this is not the way Blofeld is meant to be played)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6 (St John is great, but Case is an underwhelming heroine)
    8. Bond - 8 (Connery adds a lot of presence to his role)
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 9 (at least Barry is up to his usual high standards)
    11. Cinematography - 6
    12. Fleming - 6 (true it has a lot of the Begin Bizarre, but it's diluted by the overt humour)


    13. Supporting Cast - 2 (bonus points for Klaus)
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 3


    94/150 = 62.66%

    So, heres how DAF rates in my provisional rankings;

    My % ratings:

    DN - 87.3%
    TLD - 86.66%
    GF - 86%
    SF - 84.6%
    GE - 74.66%
    MR - 73.3%
    DAF - 62.66%
    GG - 62%
  • Posts: 2,400
    Let's get this over with. DAF:

    1. Direction - 3. Not a Hamilton fan.
    2. Screenplay - 5.
    3. Script - 7.
    4. Plot - 2. The ignorance of OHMSS drags it to the depths.
    5. Action - 3. Did they run out of budget during the oil rig?
    6. Main Villain - 1. Worst in the series.
    7. Main Bond Girl - 4. Great actress, horrible character.
    8. Bond - 2. Pathetic performance.
    9. Sets - 6. Mixed feelings.
    10. Music - 9. By far the best thing about the film.
    11. Cinematography - 4. Very underwhelming.
    12. Fleming - 4.


    13. Supporting Cast - 2 only for Klaus. 1 otherwise.
    14. Main Titles - 2. Mediocre at best.
    15. Plausibility - 1. That fucking oil rig... the voice disguiser... the space laser... need I go on?
    16. Pace - 4.
    17. Editing - 1. Again. Budget.
    18. Tilt - 1. Hate watching this one.

    61/150. Wow. Just wow. What a pathetic film. A whole 15 points under TMWTGG.

    40.67%
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 11,189
    Diamonds Are Forever

    1. Direction - 4 (flat and dull)
    2. Screenplay - 5
    3. Script - 6
    4. Plot - 4
    5. Action - 3 (fairly weak)
    6. Main Villain - 5 (Charles Grey was fun but, as others have said, he doesn't feel like Blofeld)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 4 (great in a couple of scenes but becomes annoying comic relief)
    8. Bond - 4 (had a few fun moments but overall I feel disappointed by Connery here. He doesn't FEEL like Bond).
    9. Sets - 5 (ok but not up to the previous standard)
    10. Music - 7
    11. Cinematography - 5
    12. Fleming - 6

    13. Supporting Cast - 2
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 1 (the only film I genuinely have trouble watching until the end).
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt - 2

    Undoubtedly one of my least favourite entries.
  • Posts: 5,634
    Diamonds are Forever 1971

    Direction - 4
    Screenplay - 6
    Script - 4
    Plot - 2
    Action - 4
    Main Villain - 3
    Main Bond Girl - 8
    Bond - 2
    Sets - 4
    Music - 4
    Cinematography - 5
    Fleming - 7

    Supporting Cast - 5
    Main Titles - 2
    Plausibility - 1
    Pace - 2
    Editing - 2
    Tilt - 2


    67 / 150
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    Direction - 4
    Screenplay - 4
    Script - 4
    Plot - 4
    Action - 7
    Main Villain - 2
    Main Bond Girl - 4
    Bond - 3
    Sets - 6
    Music - 6
    Cinematography - 6
    Fleming - 6

    Supporting Cast - 4
    Main Titles - 3
    Plausibility - 1
    Pace - 3
    Editing - 3
    Tilt - 1

    71/150
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 19,339
    Diamonds Are Forever

    1. Direction - 7
    2. Screenplay - 6
    3. Script - 6
    4. Plot - 6
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain - 4
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond - 7
    9. Sets - 8
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 5


    13. Supporting Cast - 4 (Wint and Kidd - brilliant but wasted.)
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt - 2

    94/150
    62%


    Bottom of my Bond film list,but i did tune into parts of it last Sunday and quite enjoyed it,strangely.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited March 2014 Posts: 4,416
    Diamonds Are Forever

    Direction - 8
    Screenplay - 7
    Script - 6
    Plot - 6
    Action - 8
    Main Villain - 7
    Main Bond Girl - 6 (Tiffany Case 7 / Plenty O'Toole 5)
    Bond - 9
    Sets - 8 ( 1 les because of the Oil Island and one back because of The Netherlands!.)
    Music - 5
    Cinematography - 8
    Fleming - 6

    Supporting Cast 4/5 (8/10)
    Main Titles - 3/5 (6/10)
    Plausibility - 3/5 (6/10)
    Pace - 3.5/5 (7/10)
    Editing - 3.5/5 (7/10)
    Tilt - 3.5 (7/10)

    DAF i have love/hate with it. Connery's humor is top like as in Yolt or FRWL, but like Yolt i am not realy be big fan of the end lair. Iam not realy big fan of from 5 of Barry scores, but 2 of those are better and DAF is one of those 2. Not a big flaw as GF, TB or Moonraker, friendley 5. My third favorite Blofeld. From supporting Cast Q be on the run and also bring a part of the humor. Of course it have been fine if David Hedison already play the part of Felix but i like this one too. Not like every suporting cast member, but the other ones are good enough to give 4/10. Maintitle is not realy be one of my favorites. Speed/Pace of the movie realy get me out of the movie sometimes, lucky we have the humor and action. Moost fair be to give pace/speed of the movie/editing and Cinematography the same as with TMWTGG.

    Top 23: 12/23 (Sometimes 13!)
  • Posts: 5,745
    DAF

    Direction - 3
    Screenplay - 2
    Script - 2
    Plot - 2
    Action - 4
    Main Villain - 2
    Main Bond Girl - 3
    Bond - 2
    Sets - 6
    Music - 7
    Cinematography - 4
    Fleming - 1

    Supporting Cast - 2
    Main Titles - 3 (Only for Bassey)
    Plausibility - 1
    Pace - 2
    Editing - 1
    Tilt - 1

    47/150
    31.33%
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 1,817
    The Living Daylights
    1. Direction - 10
    2. Screenplay - 9
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 9
    5. Action - 9
    6. Main Villain - 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 9
    10. Music - 10
    11. Cinematography - 10
    12. Fleming - 10

    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt - 5

    137/150 = 91.3%

    Diamonds Are Forever
    1. Direction - 6
    2. Screenplay - 6
    3. Script - 9
    4. Plot - 7
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 5
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond - 7
    9. Sets - 9
    10. Music - 9
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 6

    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 5
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt - 4

    105/150 = 70.0%
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