Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (30th June 2023)

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Here's another pic from the Bremont thing, I think he's looking very well. No stubble yet though! :)

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    I'm a big fan of Hollywood movies filming in the UK for many reasons.

    Perhaps chief among them is that it makes it very easy to know when they're close to production, as suddenly a lot of American actors will start popping up in places like Oxfordshire.
    mtm wrote: »
    Here's another pic from the Bremont thing, I think he's looking very well. No stubble yet though! :)

    t63do9dx6w171.jpg
  • Posts: 15,928
    Harrison looks great and he'll be great as Indy again. No doubts whatsoever.
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    @AstonLotus This is a James Mangold picture. Kathleen Kennedy has pretty much no say in Indy 5.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    Here's another pic from the Bremont thing, I think he's looking very well. No stubble yet though! :)

    t63do9dx6w171.jpg

    Looks Damn Good!

    I am so pumped for the movie and following the production.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Totally with you on that. Yes he's old, I don't care; he's still Harrison Ford :)

  • edited May 2021 Posts: 121
    A little detective work:

    - according to imdb, Indy 5 has a Military Technical Adviser
    - someone on twitter heard a rumour that some Indy 5 scenes will be filmed in Bamburgh (I am guessing Bamburgh castle?)
    - according to two10casting.com a Disney feature film will be filmed near Newcastle next month and they are looking for male extras for millitary roles

    Bamburgh is an hour drive away from Newcastle. Could this all point to a major Indy 5 setpiece involving soldiers and the Bamburgh castle?

    Another castling call that could be about Indy 5 (also from two10casting.com): Disney feature film, filmed near Glasgow in July, male and female extras with long hair /beards / afros / moustaches wanted. Could near Glasgow mean "in Glasgow"? If yes, this could be about the NYC scenes of Indy 5 involving lots of hippies. (As it was pointed out in an earler comment, Glasgow is sometimes used as a stand-in for NYC).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    He looks fantastic for 80ish.
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    @Mr_Beach Excellent work all around. Great job.

    Things are certainly going to get a little confusing in the summer when DC Comics' The Flash movie, will also be shooting in Glasgow at the same time (doubling for an American city, no less).
  • edited May 2021 Posts: 121
    Alright, folks, thinks are getting interesting. More detective work with some very possible BIG spoilers:
    Just a couple hours after I posted my comment above someone on reddit posted a comment claiming that they went to a location in the UK "that has sets built around a public point of interest" then the person said that the point of interest is a big castle and that the ending of the film will be shot there.

    It gets better: according to a facebook post I just found Bamburgh Castle will be closed from June 4-12 due to filming! It was also closed on May 25 due to filming, I am guessing they did some test shots that day.

    So it seems that filming of Indy 5 will begin at Bamburgh Castle on Firday! I wonder, what could be the McGuffin of Indy 5 considering that it seems their journey will lead the heros to a medieval castle?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Good stuff, thanks Mr Beach.
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    Excalibur?as it’s a medieval castle?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Excalibur?as it’s a medieval castle?

    That would be cool...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2021 Posts: 15,423
    A photo which might be from the Indy set:
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    Via Reddit.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited May 2021 Posts: 4,223
    I noticed how TLC and KOTCS are similar to how Cubby and Harry switched off on Bonds from OHMSS to TMWTGG. TLC feels more like a SS in his fun prime, and KOTCS is GL in his own powerful CEO viewpoints of his career. GL felt like that it wasn’t worth doing it unless he got his way. Same with SS on TLC. ROTLA and TOD both feel like a good mix of the two working together. Now it’s KK’s turn. I’m honestly surprised that they didn’t James Bond the character (make one movie one after the other) and see what would happen.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/1je335/a_rare_kubrick_quote_about_george_lucas/

    https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2560175/why-george-lucas-star-wars-success-makes-francis-ford-coppola-feel-sadness

    I agree with them. While GL wasn’t the strongest screenwriter, he did have strong vision when directing. He should have directed more feature movies than the six that he did. Probably shouldn’t have written them though. I could see him directing Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men in the 90s when SS didn’t want to.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    edited May 2021 Posts: 754
    It's not KK's turn. She's not SS and GL equivalent. This is Ford's doing and his picture... I've always suspected his agreeing to do Force Awakens had this movie in the deal
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
    edited May 2021 Posts: 468
    Ford has a long documented problem with Han Solo, which basically comes up from the fact that he had at some point two active franchises, one in which he was the undisputed lead and one in which he ultimately played second fiddle to Mark Hamill.

    After he made Raiders, he campaigned for Han Solo to be killed at the end of Episode VI. But Lucas eventually decided he wouldn't follow the plans he had conceived with Gary Kurtz (big battle at the end, Darth Vader dies, the Emperor is still here, Han also dies, Leia, in mourning, retires, Luke hears about a sister who would have been introduced in episodes VII-IX) and would actually wrap everything on a lighter tone.
    You can see the difference with his acting between ESB (made before he was cast as Indy) and ROTJ (shot after Raiders was released). On ROTJ, he's on auto-pilot.

    The new Indiana Jones will also carry a very hefty price tag. Disney had to negotiate with Paramount to get the distribution rights for this film. The original deal between Lucasfilm and Paramount was that Paramount would get the distribution rights for five episodes in perpetuity (they didn't want to repeat the mistake made at Fox for Star Wars, which caused Alan Ladd Jr to be fired). As, supposedly, four films had been shot by the time Disney bought Lucasfilm, the fifth entry would have been released by Paramount. They found a compromise a few months later, but the terms are undisclosed.
  • edited May 2021 Posts: 121
    I wonder if they are planning to de-age Ford throughout the whole movie slightly, using the technology from The Irishman. It seems that the movie will take place in the 1960s so they might want to de-age Ford by 10 years or so. Then again, he looks great, and can play a character 10 years younger than his real age without any visual effect de-aging.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited May 2021 Posts: 8,084
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    I wonder if they are planning to de-age Ford throughout the whole movie slightly, using the technology from The Irishman. It seems that the movie will take place in the 1960s so they might want to de-age Ford by 10 years or so. Then again, he looks great, and can play a character 10 years younger than his real age without any visual effect de-aging.

    In part because of the 60’s setting, which is chronically roughly 15 years earlier than real time, I’ve long contended that they will do a mild de-aging. If it were in actual time, following Raiders, it would be in the mid 70’s.

    Ford looks fantastic, and it’s not like they would trying to make him look 25; the results would be flawless.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2021 Posts: 15,423
    I think a bit of tidying up happens with a lot of actors and we don’t even know: a friend was telling me he worked with someone who had to paint out the saggy neck of a 50-something British movie star a couple of years ago. They might do a bit of that but it wouldn’t be noticeable.
    I just watched Call of the Wild and while he’s playing the character a bit more grizzled than Indy, he can still do this stuff just fine. I don’t think they’ll worry about making him look exactly Indy’s age: people looked older in the 60s anyway.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited May 2021 Posts: 8,084
    mtm wrote: »
    I think a bit of tidying up happens with a lot of actors and we don’t even know: a friend was telling me he worked with someone who had to paint out the saggy neck of a 50-something British movie star a couple of years ago. They might do a bit of that but it wouldn’t be noticeable.
    I just watched Call of the Wild and while he’s playing the character a bit more grizzled than Indy, he can still do this stuff just fine. I don’t think they’ll worry about making him look exactly Indy’s age: people looked older in the 60s anyway.

    Oh yes, special visual effects are a lifelong passion of mine, it’s a well know “secret” that quite a few digital facelifts are done ; more often than not it’s very subtle.

    It’s interesting that the end of this article mentions Indiana Jones

    https://www.vulture.com/2016/03/special-effects-c-v-r.html

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Interesting they mention him having done Rogue Nation: I remember watching that and in a close up it was noticeable that Cruise had no eye bags at all- not just reduced but none at all to the level not even a twenty year old has :)
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    edited May 2021 Posts: 754
    Ford refused to dye his hair for Crystal Skull, so I'm not sure how open he would be to de-aging... if they do some small work without his knowing, maybe but I doubt

    As for his long troubled history with Solo, ROTJ was the only sticking point because the movie gave him nothing to do but act against teddy bears. So, he was completely justified to not be happy with it. He was well documented as saying how much he enjoyed playing the character in SW and TESB, so it was all much ado about nothing as far as his disliking the character.

    If Kennedy was smart and knew what she was doing, they would get Ford on a 6-8 episode Solo show for Disney + set pre-Force Awakens. Everyone would lose their s*&% for that. He's already worked with Favreau so it seems like a no brainer. Ford likes to work and doesn't have a lot to do these days... I've no doubt he would agree to come back for that given the success of the Mandalorian
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2021 Posts: 15,423
    I’d much rather see him on a Mando-style Indy show. That format seems such a good fit for Indy. And he does seem fonder of Indy.

    Here’s a throne potentially from the Indy set; strong Celtic vibes from this:
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    The fact that they're shooting the majority of this rumoured Scottish castle sequence in England really rams home how inadequate Scotland's film commission is compared to the rest of the UK's.

    They do seem to have been getting much better the past few years though.
    mtm wrote: »
    I’d much rather see him on a Mando-style Indy show. That format seems such a good fit for Indy. And he does seem fonder of Indy.

    Here’s a throne potentially from the Indy set; strong Celtic vibes from this:
    gnxtxezo1b271.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cb25942be4766df605ed420d5f11e27ef721624
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Well, unless it’s not Scottish-set; we don’t know for sure yet. It’s a very picturesque castle.
  • edited May 2021 Posts: 121
    That throne was not made for Indy 5 after all, it's part of a Bamburgh Castle exhibition. Which makes sense, as a medieval throne made for a big budget movie like Indy would look more professional (not this clean). Having said that, filming at the castle will start this week and I am hoping it's not just second unit stuff!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes I saw that mentioned too, but I’d be curious to know where that info comes from.
  • Ford looks great. He is Indy. No one else could play him.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Sure as hell Chris Pratt shouldn’t.
    Ford looks great. He is Indy. No one else could play him.

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