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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (30th June 2023)

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  • TR007TR007
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I don't know if anyone saw this, and I don't know how true any of it is but...

    https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-indiana-jones-5-phoebe-waller-bridge.html
    "Our source has it that Phoebe Waller-Bridge will play a British reporter named Clara Wolfe, a former university student of Harrison Ford’s Indiana Jones who stumbles onto the larger plot.

    Additionally, this new Indiana Jones 5 exclusive has it that the mission at hand is Apollo 11, the one that landed Neil Armstrong on the moon to take a small step for man and a giant one for all of mankind. In the movie, Phoebe Waller-Bridge figures out that a conspiracy is at hand. One of the Apollo 11 astronauts dropped dead before the mission and someone (the government?) put an imposter/ lookalike in his place. Ultimately, she is arrested when Boyd Holbrook’s character (a police officer) sees her flashing off a picture of the deceased body being loaded into an ambulance, looking to shuttle him away.

    And we have it, as part of another exclusive that Phoebe Waller-Bridge stumbling on this coverup of a dead astronaut is just the tip of the iceberg around a larger conspiracy. That’s because there is also going to be a time travel element to Indiana Jones 5. As part of the Space Race piece, it’s been out there that Mads Mikkelsen’s character is a former Nazi scientist, taken in by the United States government and NASA specifically as part of Operation Paperclip. This was meant to give the US a leg up in the race to the moon over their Russian counterparts. He’s actually trying to use the mission as a way to reverse time and have the Nazis win the war. It’s unclear right now if Phoebe Waller-Bridge also stumbles on this plot, but rest assured Indiana Jones will.    "

    Didn't Will Smith do something similar in Men in Black 3?
  • Since62Since62
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    Time travel...in an Indy Jones film...sigh...hoping for the best.
  • ZekidkZekidk
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    The sci-fi move in KOTCS was a bad idea. That's the general consensus. They dare not go down that path again!
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea

    I agree; the concept of immersing Indy in an archeological mystery involving “Ancient Astronauts “
    , combined with the Cold War , could have been very interesting. Unfortunately the execution was clumsy.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a movie everyone wanted to see, yet nobody wanted to make.

  • ZekidkZekidk
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea
    That's a first for me. Haven't heard anyone before saying that combining aliens and UFO's with Indiana Jones could be a good idea.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea
    That's a first for me. Haven't heard anyone before saying that combining aliens and UFO's with Indiana Jones could be a good idea.

    I have, there are many archeological connections with what are known as “ Ancient Astronauts “ . In theory It seems like a perfect fit, but as pointed out the execution was poor.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea
    That's a first for me. Haven't heard anyone before saying that combining aliens and UFO's with Indiana Jones could be a good idea.

    I've said it quite a few times in this thread, I'm sure.
    talos7 wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea
    That's a first for me. Haven't heard anyone before saying that combining aliens and UFO's with Indiana Jones could be a good idea.

    I have, there are many archeological connections with what are known as “ Ancient Astronauts “ . In theory It seems like a perfect fit

    Yeah exactly, it works for me. I don't think they even handle it massively badly (the stuff in the temple at the end with them seeing the hieroglyphics of the aliens helping the Aztecs was good), it just didn't feel spooky enough.
  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred
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    Having recently rewatched the 4 Indy films on the new disks, I have to say the first half of KOTCS is great! Up there with TLC even.. but midway through it really loses me.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    ShakenNotStirred wrote: »
    Having recently rewatched the 4 Indy films on the new disks, I have to say the first half of KOTCS is great! Up there with TLC even.. but midway through it really loses me.

    That’s fair. Indy always has a great opening.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 2021 Posts: 14,948
    Yeah I used to think it loses it when Mutt turns up, but I think that's not fair: the diner scene is pretty good too. But the motorcycle chase just feels a bit limp and uninspired, and then it kind of just flatlines after that. It's not a terrible film and I get so tired of people pretending that it's the worst film ever made, but it does feel like there are hearts not in it.
    Mangold is a very good director who I can believe really wants this, and he's only been getting better and better recently, so I think this new one has the potential to be good and actually have a bit of weight behind it. Make it funny, make it exciting, make it emotional, make it properly spooky please James.

    We're exactly one year away :)
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea
    That's a first for me. Haven't heard anyone before saying that combining aliens and UFO's with Indiana Jones could be a good idea.

    If it had whatever you imagine is a great artifact/idea with that script, characters and execution it’s still a mess… or another way of looking at is I don’t care at all about the magic rocks of Temple of Doom but it’s still a fun action thrill ride. If the execution was great no one would complain about 👽
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    That consensus is wrong…. It was the execution not the idea
    That's a first for me. Haven't heard anyone before saying that combining aliens and UFO's with Indiana Jones could be a good idea.

    If it had whatever you imagine is a great artifact/idea with that script, characters and execution it’s still a mess… or another way of looking at is I don’t care at all about the magic rocks of Temple of Doom but it’s still a fun action thrill ride. If the execution was great no one would complain about 👽

    Maybe, but I remember people complaining about the idea of aliens before they saw it: I wonder if that mindset didn’t persist.
  • ZekidkZekidk
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    To me, Indiana Jones is an archeologist. He deals with history, searches for religious or historical important artifacts and stuff that belongs in a museum. Not Area 51.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 2021 Posts: 14,948
    Zekidk wrote: »
    To me, Indiana Jones is an archeologist. He deals with history, searches for religious or historical important artifacts and stuff that belongs in a museum. Not Area 51.

    Well yes, that’s why the ancient astronauts/runways/chariots of the gods thing fits so well.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    To me, Indiana Jones is an archeologist. He deals with history, searches for religious or historical important artifacts and stuff that belongs in a museum. Not Area 51.

    Well yes, that’s why the ancient astronauts/runways/chariots of the gods thing fits so well.

    Bingo…
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 754
    Zekidk wrote: »
    To me, Indiana Jones is an archeologist. He deals with history, searches for religious or historical important artifacts and stuff that belongs in a museum. Not Area 51.

    I prefer fortune and glory to belongs in a museum, but I would also say Holy grail and the Lost Ark are Area 51. They’re supernatural and fantasy. Aliens are mysterious and compelling. I mean they literally don’t show until the last 10mins so even if someone hated aliens passionately the rest of the movie couldve/should’ve been great until last 10 mins for them
  • Risico007Risico007
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I don't know if anyone saw this, and I don't know how true any of it is but...

    https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-indiana-jones-5-phoebe-waller-bridge.html
    "Our source has it that Phoebe Waller-Bridge will play a British reporter named Clara Wolfe, a former university student of Harrison Ford’s Indiana Jones who stumbles onto the larger plot.

    Additionally, this new Indiana Jones 5 exclusive has it that the mission at hand is Apollo 11, the one that landed Neil Armstrong on the moon to take a small step for man and a giant one for all of mankind. In the movie, Phoebe Waller-Bridge figures out that a conspiracy is at hand. One of the Apollo 11 astronauts dropped dead before the mission and someone (the government?) put an imposter/ lookalike in his place. Ultimately, she is arrested when Boyd Holbrook’s character (a police officer) sees her flashing off a picture of the deceased body being loaded into an ambulance, looking to shuttle him away.

    And we have it, as part of another exclusive that Phoebe Waller-Bridge stumbling on this coverup of a dead astronaut is just the tip of the iceberg around a larger conspiracy. That’s because there is also going to be a time travel element to Indiana Jones 5. As part of the Space Race piece, it’s been out there that Mads Mikkelsen’s character is a former Nazi scientist, taken in by the United States government and NASA specifically as part of Operation Paperclip. This was meant to give the US a leg up in the race to the moon over their Russian counterparts. He’s actually trying to use the mission as a way to reverse time and have the Nazis win the war. It’s unclear right now if Phoebe Waller-Bridge also stumbles on this plot, but rest assured Indiana Jones will.    "

    So uhm
    are they trying to make Kingdom of the crystal skull seem good?
  • Since62Since62
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    Ha !!!
  • Since62Since62
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    So, you're James Mangold, or Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Antonio Banderas or plenty of other persons, and you're given the opportunity to work on Indy 5. You might not be given the entire script, but you learn enough about the film as planned to think: "This will be rubbish ! Worse than Indy 4, a/k/a Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal S$*&% !!!!"

    Do you accept the offer to direct, appear, etc. in it ?

    Some of the folks on here seem to be IN THE INDUSTRY, so, would you just figure that a job's a job ?
    Would the "rubbish" concerns affect moreso those whose names go way up at the beginning of the credits ? Some of them, I suppose, might feel challenged and think they could make a silk purse out of the smelly, awful, hairy sow's ear before them.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I don't think Ford would be coming back at almost 80 if he didn't think it would be good.
  • TR007TR007
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    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    I don't think Ford would be coming back at almost 80 if he didn't think it would be good.

    Don’t forget, he signed on to do the movie before a script or director were in place.
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    And he negotiated some creative control over this episode. His point of view ultimately prevailed over Spielberg’s.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Things have gone quite; the most recent photos showed Ford cycling and looking fit. Has he returned to filming?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I saw some photos of him apparently on holiday with the family in Croatia, so it doesn't look like it yet.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    Sean Connery will be making a cameo appearence, he filmed this scene not long before this death. We see him playing bingo with Indy in the nursing home they are both in.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Sean Connery will be making a cameo appearence, he filmed this scene not long before this death. We see him playing bingo with Indy in the nursing home they are both in.

    Shertainly you're joking.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    I saw some photos of him apparently on holiday with the family in Croatia, so it doesn't look like it yet.

    @mtm
    My girlfriend has a friend who is vacationing in Croatia; the other night she was at the same restaurant as Harrison. He’s looking good, hopefully he’s close to being camera ready. It looks like they’re being creative about shooting around his injury

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  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    talos7 wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Sean Connery will be making a cameo appearence, he filmed this scene not long before this death. We see him playing bingo with Indy in the nursing home they are both in.

    Shertainly you're joking.

    We'll find out next year.
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