Mission: Impossible - VII/VIII (2022/23)

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  • Posts: 2,488
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.

    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    dragonsky wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.
    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie
    We'll never know till it happens, I guess. I mean, originally, Brad Bird was in talks to direct the fifth film.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 35,209
    dragonsky wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.
    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie
    We'll never know till it happens, I guess. I mean, originally, Brad Bird was in talks to direct the fifth film.

    Yes, anything could happen from here until that time comes. I won't be surprised if they go with McQuarrie again, but I suppose anything's possible - though if this one is a real box office hit, it'll be even more likely that he returns.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    dragonsky wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.
    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie
    We'll never know till it happens, I guess. I mean, originally, Brad Bird was in talks to direct the fifth film.
    Yes, anything could happen from here until that time comes. I won't be surprised if they go with McQuarrie again, but I suppose anything's possible - though if this one is a real box office hit, it'll be even more likely that he returns.
    Wouldn't mind myself if McQ returns. What I wish for them to keep is Ilsa Faust. I want her to become a definite regular.

    It's obvious Cruise works best with McQuarrie, and secondly Doug Liman. There were talks a few years before that McQuarrie was going to adapt Alistair MacLean's novel, Ice Station Zebra and direct it. It'd be outstanding if Cruise stars in it as Commander Farraday.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,534
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    dragonsky wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.
    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie
    We'll never know till it happens, I guess. I mean, originally, Brad Bird was in talks to direct the fifth film.
    Yes, anything could happen from here until that time comes. I won't be surprised if they go with McQuarrie again, but I suppose anything's possible - though if this one is a real box office hit, it'll be even more likely that he returns.
    Wouldn't mind myself if McQ returns. What I wish for them to keep is Ilsa Faust. I want her to become a definite regular.

    It's obvious Cruise works best with McQuarrie, and secondly Doug Liman. There were talks a few years before that McQuarrie was going to adapt Alistair MacLean's novel, Ice Station Zebra and direct it. It'd be outstanding if Cruise stars in it as Commander Farraday.

    Two of Cruise's upcoming planned projects have Doug Liman attached as director: Edge of Tomorrow 2 and Luna Park (A group of renegade space workers venture to the moon to steal an energy source).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    I reckon this film will make way over 700 million, and become the biggest Tom Cruise movie ever, so I highly doubt Paramount or anyone will have any concerns about Cruise doing his own stunts.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    dragonsky wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.
    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie
    We'll never know till it happens, I guess. I mean, originally, Brad Bird was in talks to direct the fifth film.
    Yes, anything could happen from here until that time comes. I won't be surprised if they go with McQuarrie again, but I suppose anything's possible - though if this one is a real box office hit, it'll be even more likely that he returns.
    Wouldn't mind myself if McQ returns. What I wish for them to keep is Ilsa Faust. I want her to become a definite regular.

    It's obvious Cruise works best with McQuarrie, and secondly Doug Liman. There were talks a few years before that McQuarrie was going to adapt Alistair MacLean's novel, Ice Station Zebra and direct it. It'd be outstanding if Cruise stars in it as Commander Farraday.

    Two of Cruise's upcoming planned projects have Doug Liman attached as director: Edge of Tomorrow 2 and Luna Park (A group of renegade space workers venture to the moon to steal an energy source).
    Can't wait for both of those! :D
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Great action flick I'd give it a solid 8 out of 10, but I think MI4 was better.
  • dragonsky wrote: »
    Also..I think this may be the only MI film in which we don't hear the iconic theme during a scene (we hear bits of it but not in entirety)..or at least that's what I noticed

    Also..
    Is this

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bmUxvX2z5N0 song made specially for the movie? if so..it wasn't played during the end credits right after the movie ends and I really wanted to hear it :/

    I have just bought the soundtrack for Fallout the track Friction is not listed on there either. Not listened to the album yet it could be listed under another title possibly.

    Edited: A track called Change of Plan incorperates the MI Theme, I am part way through the score it has a Hans Zimmer feel at times.

    The score had some great moments ("Stairs & Rooftops" in particular is really good) but the Zimmer stylistic influence was all over the score. One of Balfe's "tension" themes was basically Gotham's Reckoning without the chanting ("The Exchange").

    I like Balfe's version of the theme though.



    I did as well, shame it was only fully used during the title sequence.

    The score does have "The Plot" from the original series (as did Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation), which is derived from the theme.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    The Plot is there in Ghost Protocol, as well.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
    edited July 2018 Posts: 7,316
    Fallout made 6 million in Thursdays night previews in the US. For comparison, Rogue nation made 4 million in Thursday night previews 3 years ago.

    https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4420&p=.htm
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I thought Box office was unimportant in one of your discussions the other day ?
    Or is it only important when it suits your needs :D
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I thought Box office was unimportant in one of your discussions the other day ?
    Or is it only important when it suits your needs :D

    I know this wasn't a reply to me but box office is really only relevant when you're hoping for a good overall return on the budget so that you get another installment in the series. I don't really care what any film makes in a given series I enjoy, just as long as it's enough to warrant a sequel.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's just odd for someone to dismiss it and then use it to complement their Argument
    Still hypocrisy comes in many forms ;-)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 35,209
    It's just odd for someone to dismiss it and then use it to complement their Argument
    Still hypocrisy comes in many forms ;-)

    Where'd he do that at? I've always been of the mind that box office returns have absolutely nothing to do with the overall quality of a film.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    In a discussion about Bond v MI. I'm not arguing over it, simply pointing out that when I used the point of box office and critical success, it was dismissed, yet now when it suits. It is suddenly important . A bit of consistency would be nice ;-)
    Although I'll say no more about it as I just wanted to point it out.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 35,209
    Ahh, you mean comparing the two series in terms of their box office success. Yes, I couldn't care less about that, either.
  • edited July 2018 Posts: 5,767
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Boldfinger mentioned how he was disappointed with the action scenes. This review goes the other extreme! Please watch the first two minutes:



    Their reaction is a bit OTT but they really liked it. I'm guessing Boldfinger's reaction will be in the minority.
    @Fanbond123, please check whom you are quoting and correct yourself. Thank you.

  • Posts: 570
    dragonsky wrote: »
    Also..I think this may be the only MI film in which we don't hear the iconic theme during a scene (we hear bits of it but not in entirety)..or at least that's what I noticed

    Also..
    Is this

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bmUxvX2z5N0 song made specially for the movie? if so..it wasn't played during the end credits right after the movie ends and I really wanted to hear it :/

    I have just bought the soundtrack for Fallout the track Friction is not listed on there either. Not listened to the album yet it could be listed under another title possibly.

    Edited: A track called Change of Plan incorperates the MI Theme, I am part way through the score it has a Hans Zimmer feel at times.

    The score had some great moments ("Stairs & Rooftops" in particular is really good) but the Zimmer stylistic influence was all over the score. One of Balfe's "tension" themes was basically Gotham's Reckoning without the chanting ("The Exchange").

    I like Balfe's version of the theme though.



    I did as well, shame it was only fully used during the title sequence.

    The score does have "The Plot" from the original series (as did Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation), which is derived from the theme.

    Michael Giacchino actually started using "The Plot" theme in M:I 3, and they've been using it since. I'm grateful, because it's fantastic!
  • Posts: 2,488
    dragonsky wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.
    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie
    We'll never know till it happens, I guess. I mean, originally, Brad Bird was in talks to direct the fifth film.

    Yeah, I remember that, but I don;t remember why he didn't direct he 5th one? I wanted him back :(
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
    Posts: 7,316
    dragonsky wrote: »
    dragonsky wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @fanbond123, Cruise and McQuarrie are already discussing stunts for the next film, so this series is far from over.
    Awww yiss

    So McQuarrie will be director of the next one as well?

    Eh, I'd like to see the series return to the previous roots of new directors for every movie, as I feel like at this point we know what type of movie we'll expect from McQuarrie
    We'll never know till it happens, I guess. I mean, originally, Brad Bird was in talks to direct the fifth film.

    Yeah, I remember that, but I don;t remember why he didn't direct he 5th one? I wanted him back :(

    Maybe he already signed on Tomorrowland.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited July 2018 Posts: 15,423
    I wouldn't mind seeing Brad Bird doing another, but I do think Doug Liman has more of a chance in doing one himself than Bird doing a second one. Especially when Cruise is a producer.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2018 Posts: 15,534
    Whenever I see a discussion about which director should Tom Cruise work with next, I can't help but remember that Cruise is the only actor to work with Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Francis Ford Coppola, Michael Mann, Martin Scorsese, Oliver Stone, Paul Thomas Anderson and Ridley Scott.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Whenever I see a discussion about which director should Tom Cruise work with next, I can't help but remember that Cruise is the only actor to work with Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Francis Ford Coppola, Michael Mann, Martin Scorsese, Oliver Stone, Paul Thomas Anderson and Ridley Scott.

    I'd not thought of that...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 35,209
    Whenever I see a discussion about which director should Tom Cruise work with next, I can't help but remember that Cruise is the only actor to work with Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Francis Ford Coppola, Michael Mann, Martin Scorsese, Oliver Stone, Paul Thomas Anderson and Ridley Scott.

    What a slate of directors that is. Quite the filmography to have under your belt.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2018 Posts: 15,534
    Brad Pitt's list of directors is also very impressive, even without Spielberg, Scorsese or Kubrick.

    Pitt has worked with the following: Ridley Scott, David Fincher, Terry Gilliam, Guy Ritchie, Steve McQueen, Alejandro Inarritu, Steven Soderbergh, The Coen Brothers, Quentin Tarantino, Terrence Malick, Wolfgang Peterson and Spike Jonze.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    So just got back from seeing this and oh man, what an experience. This film not only raised the bar but I'm sorry it did to Bond what Bourne did to Bond back in the early 2000s in that it killes Bond's credibility, shot it to hell, raised it back to life only to kill it again at least 4 times! The acting, action, humour, twists, fights, set pieces, the music, the omission of sound...i mean seriously, this film is a masterclass of how to execute a GREAT action/spy film. I'm giving credit where it's due and this film deserves it. There was no silly record breaking super expensive explosions, they just got on with this shit and I'll be honest; and I hope I'm VERY wrong because I dont ever maje these sorts of predictions but I don't think Bond 25 will come close to the excitement and overall film making level of this film. I can't recommend this film highly enough. Cruise is force in this. Just compare the vehicular chases alone in this film to SPs. EoN should be embarrassed.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited July 2018 Posts: 9,353
    Saw Fallout this afternoon, had a great time with it. Looking forward to more follow-ups. Mission Impossible really energizes me more than a year out for BOND 25.

    It's also no Bond film and I won't see it again anytime soon. On that count Spectre is much easier to return to and watch, it's a fine Bond mission to me and I enjoy it start to finish. And bottom line: more fun, actually.


    Mission Impossible then and now owes much more to James Bond than is given credit in discussion here. Likewise the Bond films repeating items in tribute can be a sore spot, while I don't hear any complaints for all the lifted content in M:I however well it's done.

    Adding to the list I started from the trailers:
    - Phone as remote control for car. (Tomorrow Never Dies)
    - Vesper martini complete with lemon peel at the bar. (Casino Royale)
    - Countdown absolutely shows 0:07.

    And of course there's more.
    Posted earlier.

    So for the Fallout trailer:

    0:08 Silhouette figure with gun a short distance down hall/up stairs. (Skyfall)
    0:26 Dressed in black with handgun, winter mountain environs. (Spectre)
    0:31 Bearded man muttering reflective plot elements. (Spectre)
    0:52 Hero in front of cable news story (it's CNN's Wolf Blitzer!) of (nuclear or otherwise) terrorist attack. (Skyfall, Spectre)
    0:56 The loss of plutonion as the MacGuffin, similar to the list of agents. (Skyfall)
    1:09 The "underground" boat ride. (Spectre)
    1:25 Hero stops and stares at his love interest on the street (to his credit, Hunt runs her down). (Spectre)
    1:34 Panel truck with chained prisoner sinks in water. (Licence to Kill)
    1:38 Hero climbs the rock face. And falls (overhead view). (For Your Eyes Only)
    1:40 Hero visits direly injured friend in hospital, has to be restrained due to emotions.
    (Okay, this one is more Mad Max than Licence to Kill)
    1:42 The men's room fight. (Casino Royale)
    1:52 Hero touches his ear to improve comms. (Casino Royale)
    1:54 Hero in peril swings suspended on a rope. (Quantum of Solace)
    1:56 Sedan swings backward down stairs (in Paris?). (A View to a Kill)
    2:05 Rushing to take over someone else's helicopter. (Spectre)
    2:07 On a rope suspended from aircraft in flight. (A View to a Kill)
    2:09 Climbing around outside a helicopter in flight. (For Your Eyes Only, Spectre)
    2:10 Falling from height, rope available as an out. (For Your Eyes Only, The World Is Not Enough)
    2:13 Car chase through concrete structure/roadway. (Quantum of Solace)
    2:14 Panel truck forced into water, sinks. (Licence to Kill)
    2:18 "What the hell is he doing!?!" (Tomorrow Never Dies)
    2:19 Aircraft dogfight. (Quantum of Solace)

    The other trailer:

    1:00 Winding road through (Kashmir/European) back country. (Skyfall)
    1:10 Going rogue.
    1:32 Overhead view of European city, turning circle. (Spectre)
    1:43 Navel gazing from a rooftop. (Skyfall)
    1:53 Assassination at a performance or public gathering. (The Living Daylights)
    1:58 HALO jump or equivalent. (The Living Daylights, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day)
    2:04 Struggle in freefall. (Moonraker)
    2:09 Knocked off the cliff face. (For Your Eyes Only)
    2:11 Discussions in The Underground. (Die Another Day, Skyfall)
    2:25 Aircraft fuselage becomes land transport--and a projectile doing damage. (Spectre)

    An observation from the board: Fallout as similar to Skyfall for a title. Add: the theme of past actions catching up with the hero.


    So I realize there's nothing new under the sun and Bond doesn't have a patent on these action items. But still.

  • Posts: 8,813
    Saw it I do enjoy it my wife didnt but I need to see it a few more times to really get a feel for it my opinion right now

    1. Mission impossible rogue nation
    2. Mission impossible ghost protocol
    3. Mission impossible fallout
    4. Mission impossible 3
    5. Mission impossible
    6. Mission impossible 2
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited July 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Walked out of the theater just now. I promised not to see it today because I have a wedding to go to, but here we are. I couldn't help it.

    Let me sum it up in a few words, I'll try to post a longer review later.

    Fallout was more of a James Bond film than a Mission: Impossible film, yet it was done in a way that could bode for the template of either franchise. Gets the teamwork amount right as it is required of an M:I entry, and does far better job in telling an adventurous thriller involving spies/super-spies that Bond (I'll put this bluntly and state it, whatever you think of it, that'd be your opinion) was failing to deliver for ten years now.

    McQuarrie promised an emotional story, and he delivered an emotional story without delving into melodrama like the third film. It also didn't forget to narrative what's supposed to be a super-spy fantasy, which we all love. Or at least most of us do. Balancing the film drama-wise? It excels. Action-wise? It breaks the speed of light. I enjoyed the hell out of it and I'll be seeing it again either tomorrow or on Monday.

    Cruise was terrific as Hunt, as usual. Rebecca Ferguson was even greater than she was in the previous installment. Vanessa Kirby played the character she was given and is a credit to the excellency and praise she is awarded with...
    She got Vanessa Redgrave's mannerisms too spot on I could've actually believed they were related, as it happens The White Widow is Max's daughter.

    And then, there was Henry Cavill. Definitely a great screen presence and as some of the people here said (as well as the critics), it's his greatest performance in a film yet. Those who badmouth him just keep operating on the notion of bias and balderdash, something I wouldn't worry about. He was a rogue alright. A real rogue with a sense of classic leading man's presence.

    While at times it's quite obvious McQuarrie has directed it, some of the action setpieces and the editing spewing similarities with Rogue Nation's, the director did a great job in making a film he intended to feel different. A director who does feel confident on his vision and does execute it without coming off pretentious. While the film was in production a year ago, he did mention that the new installment was going to tell "an emotional story" which "should not be confused with dark." He was right. It wasn't dark in the slightest.

    I can hardly wait for the seventh installment in the series, and by George, I expect Rebecca Ferguson coming back as soon as possible. I see Ilsa Faust as Ethan Hunt's successor should the latter retire after a few more films.

    However, still after all this, the film falls fourth on my ranking list. Ghost Protocol remains my favourite, followed by Rogue Nation and then, the first film. Couldn't care less about the second and third entries.
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