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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Univex wrote: »
    I can't watch the SP titles if the TV isn't on "mute". That being said, if it is, they're quite interesting and dark, and I do like the octopus and skull themes. I'd trade naked Bond for naked ladies, but that's all.

    The last time I watched SPECTERE, as part of a Craig marathon, I hit mute and played the video of Noel Gallagher's "The Man who Built the Moon" put to the titles; it helps immensely
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I can't watch the SP titles if the TV isn't on "mute". That being said, if it is, they're quite interesting and dark, and I do like the octopus and skull themes. I'd trade naked Bond for naked ladies, but that's all.

    The last time I watched SPECTERE, as part of a Craig marathon, I hit mute and played the video of Noel Gallagher's "The Man who Built the Moon" put to the titles; it helps immensely

    It really does. The whole film gets instantly better. Not kidding.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Bounine wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Steady on, chaps.

    I was referring to the song, if I we can call it that. The titles were ok. Not brilliant or anything. Just...meh.
    Song: bah; titles: meh.

    ;)

    I see. I think it's still a bit over the top, though. I didn't mind the song or the titles of course. ;)

    I must be one of the few people who likes "Writing's On The Wall". :)
    I'm in love with the instrumental. It feels very melanchonic, haunting and nostalgic, as if it recalled Bond's past and all the difficult choices he made and all the people he's lost in the years, and then it tries to burst some energy to help Bond move on, but something still holds him back. Really, I can't stop listening to the piano covers of The Writing's on the Wall. In this I think the melody is very Bondian and would have worked great if woven into the score.
    There are some covers (such as Sofia Karlberg's) on YouTube which are pretty good too.
    As for Sam Smith's voice, I can totally see why people don't like his falsetto and the autotune. I can't blame them, and it took me a while to get used to it.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    vzok wrote: »
    At least one track - Field Trip - has an AWTD reference.
    As do Time to get out, Pursuit at Port au Prince and "Camille and Greene".
    I'll soon make a video to show which parts I refer to.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    Walecs wrote: »
    Bounine wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Steady on, chaps.

    I was referring to the song, if I we can call it that. The titles were ok. Not brilliant or anything. Just...meh.
    Song: bah; titles: meh.

    ;)

    I see. I think it's still a bit over the top, though. I didn't mind the song or the titles of course. ;)

    I must be one of the few people who likes "Writing's On The Wall". :)
    I'm in love with the instrumental. It feels very melanchonic, haunting and nostalgic, as if it recalled Bond's past and all the difficult choices he made and all the people he's lost in the years, and then it tries to burst some energy to help Bond move on, but something still holds him back. Really, I can't stop listening to the piano covers of The Writing's on the Wall. In this I think the melody is very Bondian and would have worked great if woven into the score.
    There are some covers (such as Sofia Karlberg's) on YouTube which are pretty good too.
    As for Sam Smith's voice, I can totally see why people don't like his falsetto and the autotune. I can't blame them, and it took me a while to get used to it.

    Totally in agreement here. The Instrumental is pure Bond for me. I was sold on it in the first 20 seconds and haven't changed my mind yet. And I expect no less for B25.

    As for the singing, i'm not really bothered by it as others but there is definitly a part of me who would have prefered an actual female singer. But the guy won an Oscar so what do i know.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,802
    00Agent wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    Bounine wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Steady on, chaps.

    I was referring to the song, if I we can call it that. The titles were ok. Not brilliant or anything. Just...meh.
    Song: bah; titles: meh.

    ;)

    I see. I think it's still a bit over the top, though. I didn't mind the song or the titles of course. ;)

    I must be one of the few people who likes "Writing's On The Wall". :)
    I'm in love with the instrumental. It feels very melanchonic, haunting and nostalgic, as if it recalled Bond's past and all the difficult choices he made and all the people he's lost in the years, and then it tries to burst some energy to help Bond move on, but something still holds him back. Really, I can't stop listening to the piano covers of The Writing's on the Wall. In this I think the melody is very Bondian and would have worked great if woven into the score.
    There are some covers (such as Sofia Karlberg's) on YouTube which are pretty good too.
    As for Sam Smith's voice, I can totally see why people don't like his falsetto and the autotune. I can't blame them, and it took me a while to get used to it.

    Totally in agreement here. The Instrumental is pure Bond for me. I was sold on it in the first 20 seconds and haven't changed my mind yet. And I expect no less for B25.

    As for the singing, i'm not really bothered by it as others but there is definitly a part of me who would have prefered an actual female singer. But the guy won an Oscar so what do i know.

    Actually it shows how political the Oscars are. Yes, there are some nice things going on musically but lyrically it stumbles and vocally, falls on its face.
    All around this title sequence was lacking; I’m hoping for a rebound on Bond 25.

  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited July 2019 Posts: 5,185
    talos7 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    Bounine wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Steady on, chaps.

    I was referring to the song, if I we can call it that. The titles were ok. Not brilliant or anything. Just...meh.
    Song: bah; titles: meh.

    ;)

    I see. I think it's still a bit over the top, though. I didn't mind the song or the titles of course. ;)

    I must be one of the few people who likes "Writing's On The Wall". :)
    I'm in love with the instrumental. It feels very melanchonic, haunting and nostalgic, as if it recalled Bond's past and all the difficult choices he made and all the people he's lost in the years, and then it tries to burst some energy to help Bond move on, but something still holds him back. Really, I can't stop listening to the piano covers of The Writing's on the Wall. In this I think the melody is very Bondian and would have worked great if woven into the score.
    There are some covers (such as Sofia Karlberg's) on YouTube which are pretty good too.
    As for Sam Smith's voice, I can totally see why people don't like his falsetto and the autotune. I can't blame them, and it took me a while to get used to it.

    Totally in agreement here. The Instrumental is pure Bond for me. I was sold on it in the first 20 seconds and haven't changed my mind yet. And I expect no less for B25.

    As for the singing, i'm not really bothered by it as others but there is definitly a part of me who would have prefered an actual female singer. But the guy won an Oscar so what do i know.

    Actually it shows how political the Oscars are. Yes, there are some nice things going on musically but lyrically it stumbles and vocally, falls on its face.
    All around this title sequence was lacking; I’m hoping for a rebound on Bond 25.

    Well the Bond films are just some dumb action films as far as the Oscars could be concerned, that changed with Craigs run. And that is a good thing. Call it Prestige, or even better 'marketing' and you have a Position now that is basically unrefusable to any singer out there, after winning two Oscars in a row. i find it actually a bit sad that Bond fans are not able to celebrate this historic event more and instead continue to whine, but i'm not suprised really. i don't even care for the Oscars but artists do.

    Barbara can have anyone she wants for the B25 title Song, she just needs to point her Finger and choose, and I think she should aim high.

    Sorry, back on topic. I love Kleinman and hope he delivers something close to SF. Or reinvents himself with Cary's help.
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    00Agent wrote: »
    Barbara can have anyone she wants for the B25 title Song, she just needs to point her Finger and choose, and I think she should aim high.

    I just hope she's on the phone with Alex Turner and Arctic Monkeys as we speak :-D

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    "No Good About Goodbye", David Arnold. Of course in the score I hear "Another Way to Die".

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 7,982
    Walecs wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    At least one track - Field Trip - has an AWTD reference.
    As do Time to get out, Pursuit at Port au Prince and "Camille and Greene".
    I'll soon make a video to show which parts I refer to.

    I’ll be interested in this. As far as I’m aware, the only numerous references to a song Arnold made was for the then unfinished “No Good About Goodbye” that he would later finish with Shirley Bassey. I assume any reference to AWTD must have been both brief and subtle due to time constraints.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,409
    Walecs wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    At least one track - Field Trip - has an AWTD reference.
    As do Time to get out, Pursuit at Port au Prince and "Camille and Greene".
    I'll soon make a video to show which parts I refer to.

    I’ll be interested in this. As far as I’m aware, the only numerous references to a song Arnold made was for the then unfinished “No Good About Goodbye” that he would later finish with Shirley Bassey. I assume any reference to AWTD must have been both brief and subtle due to time constraints.

    NGAG came out as an excellent song; it should have been finished sooner and used for at least the end titles of QOS. I really dig it.
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    David Arnold sings a lovely version of NGAG
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 7,982
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    At least one track - Field Trip - has an AWTD reference.
    As do Time to get out, Pursuit at Port au Prince and "Camille and Greene".
    I'll soon make a video to show which parts I refer to.

    I’ll be interested in this. As far as I’m aware, the only numerous references to a song Arnold made was for the then unfinished “No Good About Goodbye” that he would later finish with Shirley Bassey. I assume any reference to AWTD must have been both brief and subtle due to time constraints.

    NGAG came out as an excellent song; it should have been finished sooner and used for at least the end titles of QOS. I really dig it.

    I think it compliments QOS and Bond’s arc a lot better.
    vzok wrote: »
    David Arnold sings a lovely version of NGAG

    Does he sound as good as Eric Serra?
  • edited July 2019 Posts: 1,215
    Glad to hear DK is coming back! Didn’t care much for Spectre’s TS (largely due to the song) but I’m excited to see what he and CJF come up with. CJF was closely involved in the development of he acclaimed and now often imitated True Detective S1 opening, so I’m intrigued to see what he and Kleinman come up with here.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    talos7 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    Bounine wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Steady on, chaps.

    I was referring to the song, if I we can call it that. The titles were ok. Not brilliant or anything. Just...meh.
    Song: bah; titles: meh.

    ;)

    I see. I think it's still a bit over the top, though. I didn't mind the song or the titles of course. ;)

    I must be one of the few people who likes "Writing's On The Wall". :)
    I'm in love with the instrumental. It feels very melanchonic, haunting and nostalgic, as if it recalled Bond's past and all the difficult choices he made and all the people he's lost in the years, and then it tries to burst some energy to help Bond move on, but something still holds him back. Really, I can't stop listening to the piano covers of The Writing's on the Wall. In this I think the melody is very Bondian and would have worked great if woven into the score.
    There are some covers (such as Sofia Karlberg's) on YouTube which are pretty good too.
    As for Sam Smith's voice, I can totally see why people don't like his falsetto and the autotune. I can't blame them, and it took me a while to get used to it.

    Totally in agreement here. The Instrumental is pure Bond for me. I was sold on it in the first 20 seconds and haven't changed my mind yet. And I expect no less for B25.

    As for the singing, i'm not really bothered by it as others but there is definitly a part of me who would have prefered an actual female singer. But the guy won an Oscar so what do i know.

    Actually it shows how political the Oscars are. Yes, there are some nice things going on musically but lyrically it stumbles and vocally, falls on its face.
    All around this title sequence was lacking; I’m hoping for a rebound on Bond 25.

    I think it's a well deserved award not that I like it. Heard a lot of female versions of the same in YouTube so I agree female voice would have done more justice to it.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    At least one track - Field Trip - has an AWTD reference.
    As do Time to get out, Pursuit at Port au Prince and "Camille and Greene".
    I'll soon make a video to show which parts I refer to.

    I’ll be interested in this. As far as I’m aware, the only numerous references to a song Arnold made was for the then unfinished “No Good About Goodbye” that he would later finish with Shirley Bassey. I assume any reference to AWTD must have been both brief and subtle due to time constraints.

    NGAG came out as an excellent song; it should have been finished sooner and used for at least the end titles of QOS. I really dig it.

    I think it compliments QOS and Bond’s arc a lot better.
    vzok wrote: »
    David Arnold sings a lovely version of NGAG

    Does he sound as good as Eric Serra?

    Does anyone?
  • Posts: 15,772
    "No Good About Goodbye", David Arnold. Of course in the score I hear "Another Way to Die".


    So who was responsible for vetoing this song and subjecting us to Jack White and Alicia Key's contribution? This sounded far more Bondian, IMO.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    It was never meant to be the title song, according to Arnold.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    It was never meant to be the title song, according to Arnold.

    Interesting.

    Strange as it may sound, I want the title song for B25 to actually be the title of the film. I'm kind of sick of the Craig era songs having their own titles.
    NDIB and ATH were the exceptions, never the rule. It seems now with the Craig films they prefer the title songs to be titled differently than the film with the exception of SF.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    It was never meant to be the title song, according to Arnold.

    I think he wrote this theme thinking it could be the song, but was then told that Mark Ronson was doing the song so he shelved it.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,586
    vzok wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    It was never meant to be the title song, according to Arnold.

    I think he wrote this theme thinking it could be the song, but was then told that Mark Ronson was doing the song so he shelved it.
    It's possible. That Ronson/Winehouse song could've been really cool.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    jake24 wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    It was never meant to be the title song, according to Arnold.

    I think he wrote this theme thinking it could be the song, but was then told that Mark Ronson was doing the song so he shelved it.
    It's possible. That Ronson/Winehouse song could've been really cool.

    It s a shame Amy never got to do a Bond song. She was the perfect candidate.

    Glad to see Kleinermann back. I have liked all of his work, and some of it has been fantastic.
  • Posts: 4,023
    jake24 wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    It was never meant to be the title song, according to Arnold.

    I think he wrote this theme thinking it could be the song, but was then told that Mark Ronson was doing the song so he shelved it.
    It's possible. That Ronson/Winehouse song could've been really cool.

    Ronson put a lot of work in apparently. He might have even got his song together, but he could never get Winehouse sorted and into the studio.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    It was never meant to be the title song, according to Arnold.

    Interesting.

    Strange as it may sound, I want the title song for B25 to actually be the title of the film. I'm kind of sick of the Craig era songs having their own titles.
    NDIB and ATH were the exceptions, never the rule. It seems now with the Craig films they prefer the title songs to be titled differently than the film with the exception of SF.

    I think it's all a matter of whether the film title can work in a song or not and what type of song they're aiming for. For CR they wanted a song that told the story of Bond entering the cruel, merciless world of spies, and you could hardly title such a song "Casino Royale". Using Quantum of Solace in a song lyrics would have been hard (although there are a couple of fan made songs that did it without it sounding cheesy). Honestly I'm still amazed that they titled a song The man with the Gokden Gun and one Licence to Kill since neither sound like the titles of marketable songs.
    As for SPECTRE, Mendes wanted "the great love song" and the word Spectre probably didn't fit into Smith's lyrics (maybe he could have used it when he says "a million shards of glass that haunt me from my past" and say something like "this spectre that haunts me from my past").
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    As they are devising the movie title themselves, there is little excuse for not coming up with one that works as a song title.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    The slap dash like demo nature of Jack White's song was down to time constriants.

    Like has been said countless times, he had nowhere the time other artists had to come up with that song and has proved time and time again he is a hugely talented and consumate composer and song writer.

    Given the time he would have provided a much better song, they waited far too long for Winehouse/Ronson and White had to deliver in a short space of time.

    That being said if they'd gone with Bassey and that song I certainly wouldn't have complained.

    Though it wasn't a song at that point and I feel cheated we'll never get a Winehouse/Ronson theme but fate intervened on that one quite tragically.
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    Am I the only one still confused as to why they kept referencing tentacles in the SP titles? SPECTRE is a ghost, not an Octopus!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Am I the only one still confused as to why they kept referencing tentacles in the SP titles? SPECTRE is a ghost, not an Octopus!

    The SPECTRE logo has always been an octopus.
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    Am I the only one still confused as to why they kept referencing tentacles in the SP titles? SPECTRE is a ghost, not an Octopus!

    We have been discussing those titles on another thread,and it gets the thumbs down - from the squid/octopus to Bond having no clothes on !
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    Am I the only one still confused as to why they kept referencing tentacles in the SP titles? SPECTRE is a ghost, not an Octopus!

    The SPECTRE logo has always been an octopus.

    Dictionary says its "a visible disembodied spirit : ghost"
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