Bond film ranking tournament. YOLT vs TSWLM and YOLT vs GE

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  • Posts: 352
    LTK
    TB
  • Posts: 377
    LTK
    TB
  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred San Monique
    Posts: 554
    LTK

    TB
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya “We are thrilled to delay B25”
    Posts: 2,539
    LTK

    TND
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 17,163
    LTK

    TB
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 6,651
    First one is easy...NSNA.

    The second one is a toss up. I guess I'll go with TND.
  • Posts: 3,649
    LTK
    TB
  • Posts: 9,280
    LTK over NSNA

    TB over TND
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 2,879
    NSNA over LTK

    TND over the slog that is TB
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 2,489
    LTK

    and

    TB

  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belgium
    edited April 7 Posts: 3,703
    LTK
    TB
  • DJCLE84DJCLE84 formerly HASEROT ---has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,259
    LTK > NSNA ...i'll gladly take the 007 Lethal Weapon over Thunderball Redux

    TB > TND ... a little tougher decision, but TB gets the nod
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    Posts: 308
    Can we get an actual competition?

    LTK

    TB
  • Posts: 332
    LTK

    TND
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,607
    LTK
    TB
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Hamburg, near the Atlantic Hotel
    Posts: 4,745
    LTK (clearly, but not by a landslide)
    TND (barely)
  • Posts: 19,339
    LTK

    &

    TB
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 3,478
    LTK

    TB
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 3,959
    LTK and TB
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
    Posts: 284
    It's LTK (but not with a big margin) and TND (quite a margin) for me.
  • Posts: 5,049
    LTK
    TB
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 2,810
    LTK & TB
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    Posts: 536
    LTK

    &

    TB
  • Posts: 794
    LTK
    TB
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 27,058
    How far from the finish line are we @Thunderfinger ?
  • AleanderAleander Kavala, Greece
    Posts: 33
    Records break all the time. Sweet, and yes. It is a landslide.

    LALD beats NSNA 36-3

    SF beats TMWTGG 29-10

    Round 89:

    NSNA vs LTK

    and

    TB vs TND
    Man, this is unfair.

    I will always defend NSNA till my dying breath. Its an immensly underrated entry that deserves as much appreciation as any other. A lot of fans rather like kicking it in the nuts because its easy to demonize it for its McClory association and what not. Its better than almost all of Roger Moore's entries, and then some...

    ... however, Licence to Kill is one of my top-five Bond films, ever. Its the first, and arguably best modern Bond film. Dalton definitively casts away Roger Moore's shadow and provides with a full texture and nuance that the role lacked in a long while. He's also easily the best actor to ever play the part (and I'm saying this as a huge fan of Connery's performance in NSNA, which is examplary and absolutely fantastic, and a better swan-song than Moore's own AVTAK or Brosnan's DAD).The film itself is also Glen's more refreshingly different, having gone a long way from FYEO till here, and the cast is great, namely Robert Davi in his best performance ever, and one of the five best Bond villains.

    In fact, Brandauer's Largo and Davi's Sanchez ARE that decade's best villains for me, purely on the strength of their performances. But, I simply have to give the edge to LTK, as its Bond at its most inventive and unique, whereas NSNA still has the annoying third act autopilot to contend with.

    Now, see, if it was NSNA vs TND, I'd choose NSNA in an instant! You see, TND and TB are similarly dispositioned - both are overt action films with huge emphasis on spectacle but without losing its grittiness (indeed, TND is the grittiest remake of YOLT, yet!), and both suffer in the character department. Both pieces' villains are among the series weakest, Largo being largely forgettable beyond his eyepatch (what an immense he was in Brandauer!) and Carver being largely improvised by Pryce himself. The girls are decent, but underdeveloped. Fiona was finely defined, but she should've been in it more (like Blush, as well), and Domino is invisible. TND has a different problem - two great Bond girls, largely undefined. Paris was in it for too short a time, whereas Lin should've been explored far more.

    Still, both Bonds are excellent in this, even if they don't have a lot to do. Connery does manage to twist in Bond's emotional insecurity as one final detail in his original interpretation, and Brosnan does try to work that in his Bond, as well, succeeding largely with the Paris material.

    Ultimately, I choose TB, because although it has all these problems, it at least has a structure and the story largely makes sense. TND, on the other hand, feels like more than half of it was made on the fly. Indeed, the first third is just as good as Dalton's entries or Brosnan's GE, but after the BMW crashes, so does the film. Machine-gun Bond takes over, and he never looks back. Terence Young, take it away!
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))<
    Posts: 2,504
    NSNA

    and

    TB
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Ghost office
    Posts: 34,378
    Birdleson wrote: »
    How far from the finish line are we @Thunderfinger ?

    74 more rounds.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 8,670
    Thundy's close to the Finnish.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 27,058
    Thanks.
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