Bond film ranking tournament. YOLT vs TSWLM and YOLT vs GE

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  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya “We are thrilled to delay B25”
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    YOLT and OP
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    MR and OHMSS.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pizza Broslard
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    MR and OP.

    ...come and get me you bastards!!11
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    MR and OHMSS.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Definitely MR. It was a favorite as a child and while I may not feel quite as strongly about it now, it definitely has the advantage over YOLT, which I struggle with these days to be honest.

    OHMSS is the obvious choice here, but I do love me some OP as well.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Finally a bit of a contest.

    YOLT v MR - MR: The most outlandish Connery film v the most outlandish Moore film. It's exceedingly close but if you're going for an outlandish romp then the man you want with his hand on the tiller to guide you effortlessly through is Rog every time. This sort of film really isn't Sean's forte even if he could be arsed and apart from the laser battle I think there is more scientific accuracy in the space shuttles than SPECTRE's re-entry vehicle (not to mention hollowing out a volcano). The first half of YOLT is a bit plodding too (the wedding scene goes on forever) and whilst the last act smashes it out of the park MR has done enough in the first half (staggering PTS, centrifuge, Corinne's death, museum fight) to hang on for all the ludicrousness of the final space denouement (the effects and Barry's score holding off a sustained YOLT attack). They both put it all up on the screen but, whilst Bond probably really shouldn't go into space, MR has the cojones to slap it's cock down on the table and say 'Get a load of that' and you simply have to admire such chutzpah.

    OHMSS v OP - OHMSS: A hard decision but I'm not going to one of these 'I am entitled to my opinion' cretins and deliberately be obtuse for the sake of it. I adore OP and for sheer entertainment it really can't be beaten and once Bond arrives in Germany we have a sequence till the bomb is defused to rival anythng in the series. But you can't overlook the fact that OHMSS is purest 100% proof Bond and that's going to be very tough for anyone to beat.

    This is why @TheWizardOfIce should be in charge of the next Bond production.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Finally a bit of a contest.

    YOLT v MR - MR: The most outlandish Connery film v the most outlandish Moore film. It's exceedingly close but if you're going for an outlandish romp then the man you want with his hand on the tiller to guide you effortlessly through is Rog every time. This sort of film really isn't Sean's forte even if he could be arsed and apart from the laser battle I think there is more scientific accuracy in the space shuttles than SPECTRE's re-entry vehicle (not to mention hollowing out a volcano). The first half of YOLT is a bit plodding too (the wedding scene goes on forever) and whilst the last act smashes it out of the park MR has done enough in the first half (staggering PTS, centrifuge, Corinne's death, museum fight) to hang on for all the ludicrousness of the final space denouement (the effects and Barry's score holding off a sustained YOLT attack). They both put it all up on the screen but, whilst Bond probably really shouldn't go into space, MR has the cojones to slap it's cock down on the table and say 'Get a load of that' and you simply have to admire such chutzpah.

    OHMSS v OP - OHMSS: A hard decision but I'm not going to one of these 'I am entitled to my opinion' cretins and deliberately be obtuse for the sake of it. I adore OP and for sheer entertainment it really can't be beaten and once Bond arrives in Germany we have a sequence till the bomb is defused to rival anythng in the series. But you can't overlook the fact that OHMSS is purest 100% proof Bond and that's going to be very tough for anyone to beat.

    This is why @TheWizardOfIce should be in charge of the next Bond production.

    I agree.

    For a foreigner, Darth, you are exceptionally cultivated.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I ... love you?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Ghost office
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    As a foreigner, he should be the main villain.
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    Tough matches both, but I'll go YOLT and OHMSS. For however much I love the others, these two come from the heyday of the series and despite the two later entries being among the best we got post-1969, they quite understandably fall short of the two earlier ones.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    @Thunderfinger Just musing that along with the averaging our rankings (I think it's been a couple of years since we've done that), this method is probably going to give us the most accurate picture of the Community Zeitgeist.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    MR over YOLT. Very easy choice.

    OP over OHMSS. This one is a little tougher.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    Unsurprisingly, yet another beating done by the 60s films, and the biggest yet. Might as well get a few of those out of the way.

    FRWL beats MR 28-4

    OHMSS beats QOS 29-3

    Happy to see MR fared better than QOS.

    Round 5:

    YOLT vs MR. Love both. My 2 favorite Bond films as a child. I'm going with MR.

    and

    OHMSS vs OP. Love both and they both feature 2 of the fastest paced, most exciting 2nd halves in the series but to prevent a total massacre I'm voting for OP.

    All 004 of these are in my top 008.
  • BennyBenny Perth, Western AustraliaModerator
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    As a few have already said, this is more of a contest.
    YOLT vs MR

    OHMSS vs OP

    MR is a lower ranked Bond for me. However there is so much to enjoy in this film. I’ve just never been a fan of Bond in space. MR gets away with it, and it’s an epic film. But YOLT is a film that just grows on me every time I watch it.
    Despite my unconditional love for OP, any Bond fan would find it hard to place Majesty’s below OP.
    For me the 13th Bond film is an underrated gem. OHMSS is a genuine classic and one of the series very best.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Ghost office
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    @Thunderfinger Just musing that along with the averaging our rankings (I think it's been a couple of years since we've done that), this method is probably going to give us the most accurate picture of the Community Zeitgeist.

    Yes, that is the idea. Even people who never do a ranking, can contribute here, as everyone usually has a preference when given two options. Also interesting to see who moves against the current in various rounds.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    On Her Majesties Secret Service > Octopussy - as much as I love OP, Majesties is top notch.

    You Only Live Twice > Moonraker - I'd rather take the rather ludicrous premise to YOLT than the equally ludicrous premise and inane humour of MR. Both the cinematography, production design and the soundtrack are of the highest standard in both, however.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    YOLT and OHMSS. Easy peasy.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    MR over YOLT: Both are great OTT Bond flicks, but MR is relentless in the entertaining globetrotting, mixing and matching fun action scenes, with romance scenes, and some stealthy sleuthing. YOLT is a fun romp but as we were just discussing in the comments when you watch thread, the second half starts to drag before the volcano lair.

    OHMSS over OP: Just watched OHMSS and it's still firmly in my top ten. It's trending slightly downward in 2017 for me. I could see OP surpassing in the future. OP was once dead last for me, but it has increases steadily in the past two years and probably sits at 10-13. Just another fun romp from start to end as Moore and Jourdan are two legends that keep the film so engaging.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Ghost office
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    First close match. Another win for the 60s.

    YOLT beats MR 14-10

    OHMSS beats OP 20-4


    Round 6:

    FRWL vs DAF

    and

    FRWL vs TMWTGG



    Second Young vs second Hamilton, also second Connery vs second Moore
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    edited December 2017 Posts: 27,045
    FRWL wins both handily. DAF and TMWTGG are each mid-level Bonds for me, though I have great affection for both. FRWL has held solidly at #2 for as long as I've been keeping rankings.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Ghost office
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    Agree with that. FRWL smashes it out of the thread again.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Yeah, FRWL beats both DAF and TMWTGG, no contest.
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
    edited December 2017 Posts: 2,005
    DAF
    and
    TMWTGG

    Both belong to my favorites, FRWL I find somewhat lackluster in comparison, it lacks the exciting sets, the fantastic element that DN provided so well.
    TMWTGG is a unique, fantasy-filled and fun, very atmospheric film that features the best of all Bond villains.
    FRWL doesn't have a villain of note, there is Grant and Klebb, but both are henchmen with no real vision than blind obedience. Perfectly acted though, no doubt.
    DAF sets the tone perfectly for what's to come in the 70s. I love Tiffany to bits and Charles Gray is irresistible as Blofeld, my favorite Blofeld clearly.
    FRWL found me slightly bored when I watched it the first time, it also lacks the grand finale against the main villain that doesn't exist. Not counting Blofeld in FRWL naturally.
    The story though is brilliant, so is Kerim Bey, I wish he and Bond would have faced some villain in a finale. The film also feels way too much like something from Hitchcock in many parts, that works well for the film but works against a Bond film as far as I'm concerned.
  • GBFGBF
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    FRWL wins both...
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    I'm glad that those films resonated so well with you @Andi1996Ruegg . Though I picked FRWL over both, quite often I find myself preferring to pop in one of the other two.
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    No contest.

    FRWL wins both.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    edited December 2017 Posts: 1,984
    FRWL butchers them both. Probably better in every conceivable aspect.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    From Russia With Love absolutely trounces this match up.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    FRWL vs DAF: FRWL

    and

    FRWL vs TMWTGG: FRWL

    One of the easier rounds.
  • BennyBenny Perth, Western AustraliaModerator
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    An easy win for FRWL in both rounds.

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