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  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Really weird piece of news in Spanish newspaper: https://www.lavanguardia.com/economia/20190616/462896686315/submarino-sant-cugat-inmersion-patrick-lahey-triton-submarines.html?utm_campaign=botones_sociales_app&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social

    It is about a Canadian making turistic submarines, but: "también de Sant Cugat podrán salir las primeras unidades de Neptune, un submarino de lujo, creado en colaboración con Aston Martin y que fuentes bien informadas aseguran que hará su aparición en la próxima película de James Bond."

    "also from Sant Cugat will be able to leave the first units of Neptune, a luxury submarine, created in collaboration with Aston Martin and which informed sources assure that it will make its appearance in the next James Bond movie. "

    ???

    This is the Project Neptune: https://tritonsubs.com/projectneptune/

    NeptuneHeroFinal-LimeEssence.jpg

    Back in October 2018 Andy Palmer confirmed that “Aston Martin will be collaborating in the next chapter of Bond.”

    Thus far no new car has been revealed, just the dusted off Dalton era Series III zooming around Norway.

    A few pages back their was mention of specialised underwater cinematographers working on an underwater fight scene sequence, and Malek's stunt double mentioned stunts that have never been done before. What if this mini sub is involved?

    Of course I'm just speculating based on scraps of information. But, in theory they could keep this sub entirely underwraps until the film drops.

    That, or the little girl falls through the ice and drives off in her new mini sub!
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    I see at least one Aston Martin in Matera...
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    @ggl007 Maybe he really misses that Fiat Panada :P
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    I see at least one Aston Martin in Matera...

    Where?
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    ggl007 wrote: »
    I see at least one Aston Martin in Matera...

    Where?

    Sorry, I wanted to say I foresee at least one Aston in Matera.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe JK ROFLing
    Posts: 6,996
    In the old days: "how did they do that"?

    Nowadays: "Oh, CGI."

    If it weren't for Christopher Nolan using old techniques, movie magic would be long gone.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited June 17 Posts: 11,131
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    In the old days: "how did they do that"?

    Nowadays: "Oh, CGI."

    If it weren't for Christopher Nolan using old techniques, movie magic would be long gone.

    What about Tarantino? Paul Thomas Anderson?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 3,506
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    In the old days: "how did they do that"?

    Nowadays: "Oh, CGI."

    If it weren't for Christopher Nolan using old techniques, movie magic would be long gone.

    What about Tarantino? Paul Thomas Anderson?

    JJ Abrams too, love him or not, uses plenty of old school tricks. The Force Awakens is full of them. Denis Villeneuve is another (Blade Runner 2049 is a practical marvel, you just can't tell what's what a lot of the time because it's so seamless) and that is just two more names on top of a list of hundreds of other directors who still choose to use practical effects, not just because they are better, but because they are generally more cost effective.

    Sounds like someone doesn't watch enough films.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 11,131
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    In the old days: "how did they do that"?

    Nowadays: "Oh, CGI."

    If it weren't for Christopher Nolan using old techniques, movie magic would be long gone.

    What about Tarantino? Paul Thomas Anderson?

    JJ Abrams too, love him or not, uses plenty of old school tricks. The Force Awakens is full of them. Denis Villeneuve is another (Blade Runner 2049 is a practical marvel, you just can't tell what's what a lot of the time because it's so seamless) and that is just two more names on top of a list of hundreds of other directors who still choose to use practical effects, not just because they are better, but because they are generally more cost effective.

    Sounds like someone doesn't watch enough films.

    Indeed, there are many names that deserves to be mentioned as far as old techniques goes – these are just some of them.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    I get the sense that a lot of directors like old school SFX. They just look better. CGI immediately makes everything look like a cartoon.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 9,343
    Getafix wrote: »
    I get the sense that a lot of directors like old school SFX. They just look better. CGI immediately makes everything look like a cartoon.

    I'm finding this discussion quite fascinating as I had no idea, Nolan, J.J. Abrams and other contemporary directors embraced older techniques. That in itself makes me appreciate their work more. I do feel practical effects, detailed miniature work and so forth look far better to the video game-esque CGI effects.
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    Getafix wrote: »
    CGI immediately makes everything look like a cartoon.

    Nonsense

  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Danny Boyle ditches Bond for The Beatles with Yesterday film
    https://itv.com/news/2019-06-17/danny-boyle-director-yesterday-the-beatles-film

    The Oscar-winning director speaks at length for the first time to ITV News about his acrimonious split from the latest James Bond film, citing creative differences with the producers.

    He said: "It would have been very neat to go from Beatles to Bond, that would have been very cute, no, sadly we kind of parted company, we were working on it for quite a while and then we parted companies."

    "It's a producers' film really in a way and they just, they just didn't see it the way we saw it and when you have those huge films you have to have harmony, at script stage anyway."
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 7,226
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Danny Boyle ditches Bond for The Beatles with Yesterday film
    https://itv.com/news/2019-06-17/danny-boyle-director-yesterday-the-beatles-film

    The Oscar-winning director speaks at length for the first time to ITV News about his acrimonious split from the latest James Bond film, citing creative differences with the producers.

    He said: "It would have been very neat to go from Beatles to Bond, that would have been very cute, no, sadly we kind of parted company, we were working on it for quite a while and then we parted companies."

    "It's a producers' film really in a way and they just, they just didn't see it the way we saw it and when you have those huge films you have to have harmony, at script stage anyway."

    and Panchito complains in 5 4 3 2 1
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
    edited June 17 Posts: 146
    People have issues with CGI, when it's the obvious green screen stuff, and Justice League was full of them due to the extensive reshoots that didn't even allow the graphic artists to do a decent job (or the moustache fiasco). The sloppiness also comes from too many physics-defying moves when it comes to filming the scenes (something that affected Peter Jackson on the Hobbit films). When anything is possible, nothing looks surprising.

    But there are many directors such as David Fincher, Christopher Nolan, or George Miller, as the video points it out, who have kept on doing practical effects, while relying on CGI to enhance it. Removing wires or reflections in a window, that's also CGI.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Seven_Point_Six_Five wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    CGI immediately makes everything look like a cartoon.

    Nonsense


    I saw this a while back; it’s really excellent.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 2,857
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Danny Boyle ditches Bond for The Beatles with Yesterday film
    https://itv.com/news/2019-06-17/danny-boyle-director-yesterday-the-beatles-film

    The Oscar-winning director speaks at length for the first time to ITV News about his acrimonious split from the latest James Bond film, citing creative differences with the producers.

    He said: "It would have been very neat to go from Beatles to Bond, that would have been very cute, no, sadly we kind of parted company, we were working on it for quite a while and then we parted companies."

    "It's a producers' film really in a way and they just, they just didn't see it the way we saw it and when you have those huge films you have to have harmony, at script stage anyway."

    It’s EON’s franchise, so they have every right to demand what they expect from a Bond film. Boyle forgot the first rule of mass media, you’ve got to give the people what they want.
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
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    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Danny Boyle ditches Bond for The Beatles with Yesterday film
    https://itv.com/news/2019-06-17/danny-boyle-director-yesterday-the-beatles-film

    The Oscar-winning director speaks at length for the first time to ITV News about his acrimonious split from the latest James Bond film, citing creative differences with the producers.

    He said: "It would have been very neat to go from Beatles to Bond, that would have been very cute, no, sadly we kind of parted company, we were working on it for quite a while and then we parted companies."

    "It's a producers' film really in a way and they just, they just didn't see it the way we saw it and when you have those huge films you have to have harmony, at script stage anyway."

    It’s EON’s franchise, so they have every right to demand what they expect from a Bond film. Boyle forgot the first rule of mass media, you’ve got to give the people what they want.

    Not that EON is always good in assessing what the people want, but hey...
    I think Boyle forgot the rule before that one: Bond is mass media, not some indie project where he can truly see (only) his vision come to life.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    If Boyle stayed we’d be getting the film in 4 months from now
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    If Boyle stayed we’d be getting the film in 4 months from now

    I don’t mind the wait...
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    If Boyle stayed we’d be getting the film in 4 months from now
    It’s all about the end product, not the delivery date.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 2,857
    DeerAtTheGates wrote: »
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Danny Boyle ditches Bond for The Beatles with Yesterday film
    https://itv.com/news/2019-06-17/danny-boyle-director-yesterday-the-beatles-film

    The Oscar-winning director speaks at length for the first time to ITV News about his acrimonious split from the latest James Bond film, citing creative differences with the producers.

    He said: "It would have been very neat to go from Beatles to Bond, that would have been very cute, no, sadly we kind of parted company, we were working on it for quite a while and then we parted companies."

    "It's a producers' film really in a way and they just, they just didn't see it the way we saw it and when you have those huge films you have to have harmony, at script stage anyway."

    It’s EON’s franchise, so they have every right to demand what they expect from a Bond film. Boyle forgot the first rule of mass media, you’ve got to give the people what they want.

    Not that EON is always good in assessing what the people want, but hey...
    I think Boyle forgot the rule before that one: Bond is mass media, not some indie project where he can truly see (only) his vision come to life.

    True. In my case by “people” I meant the people at EON.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 8,670
    Thanks to Arbogast777 from AJB for the find:

    GAMES BOND - Mutiny on James Bond movie set as director skips filming to play PlayStation - then demands crew work overtime

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9316454/big-bust-up-james-bond-playstation/

    48084143307_546bd089bd_o.jpg
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    So ludicrous...
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I have no idea how to even react to any of that.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 9,343
    QBranch wrote: »
    Thanks to Arbogast777 from AJB for the find:

    GAMES BOND - Mutiny on James Bond movie set as director skips filming to play PlayStation - then demands crew work overtime

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9316454/big-bust-up-james-bond-playstation/

    48084143307_546bd089bd_o.jpg

    Maybe Eon should delay the film a few more months so Cary has more time to master that video game?

    When do you play video games, 007?

    Never on the firm's time, Sir.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 8,670
    I hope he was at least playing Bond games, as research.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited June 18 Posts: 4,575
    So unprofessional! I would bet even Barbara regrets now firing Boyle.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    edited June 18 Posts: 539
    The Sun is only a reliable source of Vitamin D. No reason to believe this until it comes from somewhere more reputable.
  • ResurrectionResurrection You don't need to be an operative to see the obvious
    Posts: 1,175
    Minion wrote: »
    The Sun is only a reliable source of Vitamin D. No reason to believe this until it comes from somewhere more reputable.

    That's true :))
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