Bond 25 Production Diary

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe JK ROFLing
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    Will Bond 25 be pushed back again?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Will Bond 25 be pushed back again?

    Anything is possible of course, but as for a specific answer to the question.....why would it be pushed back again?
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Will Bond 25 be pushed back again?

    Anything is possible of course, but as for a specific answer to the question.....why would it be pushed back again?

    Because he wants it pushed back, nothing would make him happier to see DC quit and then fulfil his wet dreams and have Aidan Turner announced as taking over.

    I seem to remember saying you wouldn't be in threads to do with Bond 25 @Mendes4Lyfe, I guess your new wooden spoon arrived earlier than you were expecting.

    I was quite enjoying the lack of your smug negativity but I guess like the inevitability of an unloved season you would return.
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    Will Bond 25 be pushed back again?

    Anything is possible of course, but as for a specific answer to the question.....why would it be pushed back again?

    Because he wants it pushed back, nothing would make him happier to see DC quit and then fulfil his wet dreams and have Aidan Turner announced as taking over.

    I seem to remember saying you wouldn't be in threads to do with Bond 25 @Mendes4Lyfe, I guess your new wooden spoon arrived earlier than you were expecting.

    I was quite enjoying the lack of your smug negativity but I guess like the inevitability of an unloved season you would return.

    Craig is the best thing to happen to the series in decades.
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    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Will Bond 25 be pushed back again?

    Anything is possible of course, but as for a specific answer to the question.....why would it be pushed back again?

    Because he wants it pushed back, nothing would make him happier to see DC quit and then fulfil his wet dreams and have Aidan Turner announced as taking over.

    I seem to remember saying you wouldn't be in threads to do with Bond 25 @Mendes4Lyfe, I guess your new wooden spoon arrived earlier than you were expecting.

    I was quite enjoying the lack of your smug negativity but I guess like the inevitability of an unloved season you would return.

    Craig is the best thing to happen to the series in decades.

    Agree with you and @Shardlake-- the best thing to happen to the series since the Golden era (although SP was flawed-- and that's the only reason why I think we're seeing DC back in B25-- he wanted to go out on a high (people say money, and I say: when you've made what DC has made since '05/'06, he's only moving laterally financially. He could have retired after SF and not made another film, period-- living off the residuals from SF alone, with no more injuries, lol).

    As a Bond fan for 40 years, I am safely in the camp that feels quite blessed that this man took over the tuxedo.
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    peter wrote: »
    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Will Bond 25 be pushed back again?

    Anything is possible of course, but as for a specific answer to the question.....why would it be pushed back again?

    Because he wants it pushed back, nothing would make him happier to see DC quit and then fulfil his wet dreams and have Aidan Turner announced as taking over.

    I seem to remember saying you wouldn't be in threads to do with Bond 25 @Mendes4Lyfe, I guess your new wooden spoon arrived earlier than you were expecting.

    I was quite enjoying the lack of your smug negativity but I guess like the inevitability of an unloved season you would return.

    Craig is the best thing to happen to the series in decades.

    Agree with you and @Shardlake-- the best thing to happen to the series since the Golden era (although SP was flawed-- and that's the only reason why I think we're seeing DC back in B25-- he wanted to go out on a high (people say money, and I say: when you've made what DC has made since '05/'06, he's only moving laterally financially. He could have retired after SF and not made another film, period-- living off the residuals from SF alone, with no more injuries, lol).

    As a Bond fan for 40 years, I am safely in the camp that feels quite blessed that this man took over the tuxedo.

    Same here. He’s definitely my second favorite after Connery, and collectively their two runs are my favorites (DAF and SP being the only duds). Very glad he is returning for B25, and I’m optimistic it will be far superior to SP. Since production, barring the injury, I’ve gotten great vibes about it.
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    SP is not as bad as people make out. Yes Brofeld was a bad idea and the film lacks energy at times but had we got a film of this quality anyitme between 90 and 2005 I would have been over the moon. Heck I even think I would have taken SF over what we were getting back then.

    DAF a dud? It's absolutely not. Like the best second tier films its wackily off beat and strange and always entertaining.

    I personally enjoy Rog, Dalton and even Laz's Bonds more than Craig. But he's a solid Bond. I've never particularly warmed to his take (too thuggish and indestructible) but that doesn't mean I don't respect him.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I still think a title should have been announced already. They said it was going to be announced after all. That is the one thing that worries me.
    Would it be so bad if the film had no title? If it was just called BOND 25? If that was the title? Maybe that’s what they’re going for. Certainly would be unique :)

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    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    I was initially disappointed by the lack of a title too, but the intriguing cast and the very exciting locations we've seen so far have more than made up for it.
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    I agree that their is no need to panic about no title yet, just grateful we have a new movie being made after such a long gap between movies!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The lack of a title causes me no concern. In spite of some bumps in the road I have a great feeling about Bond 25; it looks like it’s going to be gorgeous..
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    The relative secrecy around the film is a good thing IMO
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!

    I know I invariably do. But many don't.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.
    I´m much more interested in watching a good movie than I am in knowing in Advance what the movie is About. But I guess that´s a matter of Preference ;-).

  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))<
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.

    When did EON announce a title reveal?
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    George Orwell started writing a novel called The Last Man in Europe. By the time he finished it was called 1984.
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    Getafix wrote: »
    George Orwell started writing a novel called The Last Man in Europe. By the time he finished it was called 1984.
    That happens oftentimes. Not always for the best. 1984 is IMO the better title. A good year too :)
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    Funny to think Joseph Heller's Catch 22 started out as Catch 18 as well.
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.
    I´m much more interested in watching a good movie than I am in knowing in Advance what the movie is About. But I guess that´s a matter of Preference ;-).

    I'm not talking about knowing in advance. I mean having an idea about it. The title of A Clockwork Orange gives nothing of the movie or novel, yet is very evocative.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.

    The James Bond & Friends Podcast said they had a title ready to reveal, but MGM/Universal held it back as it "wasn't strong enough".
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.

    The James Bond & Friends Podcast said they had a title ready to reveal, but MGM/Universal held it back as it "wasn't strong enough".

    Which is what I suspected. At one point they had something then decided to pull back at the last minute.

    I want to make it clear : I'm not in a negative mode. There are lots of things I love about what we know of the production. I just think they should have decided of a title by now. It's not a make or break thing for me obviously but it is one concern for me.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.

    The James Bond & Friends Podcast said they had a title ready to reveal, but MGM/Universal held it back as it "wasn't strong enough".

    Which is what I suspected. At one point they had something then decided to pull back at the last minute.

    I want to make it clear : I'm not in a negative mode. There are lots of things I love about what we know of the production. I just think they should have decided of a title by now. It's not a make or break thing for me obviously but it is one concern for me.

    Changes in the way things are revealed may be due to production issues, but are also just as likely due to Universal taking over and doing things differently. While this is their first Bond outting, it's certainly not their first and only franchise, they do know what they're doing.

    And they may well have decided on a title, but the current trend is to reveal the title of big franchise films with the first trailer and not at a press conference. Given the rather non-event status of the press conference it would make far more sense to drop the title with the first trailer, it will create a hell of a lot more buzz from a marketing perspective.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I don't understand how one can be worried becausr no title has been announced yet, when they are filming a film.

    Because they said they'd announce the title @boldfinger. And beside a title gives us an idea of what the film is about. Heck, sometimes writers come up with the title before they think of a story to write!
    But my main concern in the case of Bond 25 is that they did announce they would give the title, then they did not. I think that's a blunder, for one, and it can also be symptomatic of other problems. Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of things I like with the production do far. Love the casting, the tidbits of plot we got, love the locations, the pictures, etc. I also think Craig looks better now than he did in SF or SP. But frankly they have no excuse for the title.
    I´m much more interested in watching a good movie than I am in knowing in Advance what the movie is About. But I guess that´s a matter of Preference ;-).

    I'm not talking about knowing in advance. I mean having an idea about it. The title of A Clockwork Orange gives nothing of the movie or novel, yet is very evocative.
    Fair enough. I agree that tiltes can be damn cool. Diamonds are forever. Live and let die. From Russia, with Love. But even without a title, the idea of a new Bond film is what is most evocative for me. And let´s face it, so far the chances were huge that the title would be another low-key one-word-affair like the last two. I´d much prefer if they don´t have any title at this time, and then after filming two thirds of the movie, or even during post they decide that this film Looks like it should have the title "The Man with the shattered face". Or something like that or other ;-).

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    Getafix wrote: »
    Funny to think Joseph Heller's Catch 22 started out as Catch 18 as well.
    More catchy, wouldn’t you say? ;)

  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Getafix wrote: »
    George Orwell started writing a novel called The Last Man in Europe. By the time he finished it was called 1984.
    Not a bad Bond title there.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    I really like „Forever And A Day“ as a title in general.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Here’s my big Bond question from the launch: Where is Michael G. Wilson’s cameo in Live And Let Die?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Samuel001 wrote: »
    Here’s my big Bond question from the launch: Where is Michael G. Wilson’s cameo in Live And Let Die?
    I'm gonna have a guess here, that he's sitting at the outdoor table with the red shirt and glasses watching Baron Samedi do his dance (29:00min in).
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