Bond 25 Production Diary

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  • barryt007barryt007 Getting counselling by Sir Roger over how to kill Kara Milovy
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    From 'The Independant' :

    Bond 25: Working title for Daniel Craig’s last 007 film revealed after release date delayed again .



    Bond 25 may be delayed again, but the forthcoming film has an official working title.

    Subscribers to Production Weekly noticed a new update listing the next 007 outing will shoot under the title Shatterhand.

    According to the listing, the film’s shoot will begin on 6 April in London’s Pinewood Studios before heading to Matera in Italy.

    The working title matches the one revealed in reports from August 2017. The same report claimed that the new film – which will be Daniel Craig‘s last stand as the British spy – would be based on the 2001 novel Never Dream of Dying by Raymond Benson.

    Reports also suggested Bond could face a blind villain.

    Never Dream of Dying sees Bond start a relationship with Tylyn Mignonne, a film star whose husband is connected to The Union, a recurring crime organisation within the 007 novel series.

    The film’s journey so far has been a tumultuous one. In November 2018, Cary Joji Fukunaga replaced Danny Boyle as director and re-wrote his script that had reportedly ruffled up feathers with producers.

    While obviously hesitant to reveal any details – not least because the script is not yet complete – Fukunaga has confirmed one rather big point: the new film will bring things full circle for Craig by continuing the arc first presented in Casino Royale, his first outing as 007.

    Bond 25 will be released on 8 April 2020.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 6,481
    I'm open to Lupita, but also cautious. Waltz proved that just because you won an Oscar it doesn't necessarily mean you're right for the part. Nothing wrong with finding some lesser known talent.
  • ResurrectionResurrection You don't need to be an operative to see the obvious
    edited February 22 Posts: 1,006
    Waltz was right in every way and better than any actor I have seen in years. He just had a bad luck with a bad script.But I agree to give the part to lesser known actors.
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    IF they score Lupita, well done and the expectation would be for an interesting character.

    She's in pre-production for two films at the moment: 355 with Jessica Chastain (a female spy film), and; she's been cast as the lead in John Woo's own re-make of his The Killer. That's why I hate these reports since a certain section of the population will be excited by this news (myself included), but if she decides her slate's too full, it will be perceived as another loss to EoN (when in actuality, it's just the nature of the business)

    Depending on how far along in pre-production these films are (355 seems to be ahead of The Killer), tossing B25 into the mix is not impossible, but it will be challenging.

    And, assuming the Burns reveal was relatively new (it broke six days ago), knowing that he is half way through is actually more promising than not (and as news drips out of EoN, it seems that that news break itself pissed off quite a number of people, but, as more and more are saying, it's clear this "overhaul" (which made me want to puke), is nothing more than a polish. Assuming Burns is half-way through, this would continue to reinforce that the Playlist highly exaggerated the state of play, and what others are hearing of "polish" is likely bang-on the money.

    Good Luck to all on this; lets keep moving forward.
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    peter wrote: »
    IF they score Lupita, well done and the expectation would be for an interesting character.

    She's in pre-production for two films at the moment: 355 with Jessica Chastain (a female spy film), and; she's been cast as the lead in John Woo's own re-make of his The Killer. That's why I hate these reports since a certain section of the population will be excited by this news (myself included), but if she decides her slate's too full, it will be perceived as another loss to EoN (when in actuality, it's just the nature of the business)

    Depending on how far along in pre-production these films are (355 seems to be ahead of The Killer), tossing B25 into the mix is not impossible, but it will be challenging.

    And, assuming the Burns reveal was relatively new (it broke six days ago), knowing that he is half way through is actually more promising than not (and as news drips out of EoN, it seems that that news break itself pissed off quite a number of people, but, as more and more are saying, it's clear this "overhaul" (which made me want to puke), is nothing more than a polish. Assuming Burns is half-way through, this would continue to reinforce that the Playlist highly exaggerated the state of play, and what others are hearing of "polish" is likely bang-on the money.

    Good Luck to all on this; lets keep moving forward.

    Hey, remember when a girl I'm seeing who works at Pinewood confirmed the new start date after your odd attempts to placate everyone that March 4th was still on? you've been strangely silent on that. You were convinced we needed an Eon announcement. Good to see your "insider" skills are still top-notch.

    Anyway, I do concur that Lupita would be a huge coup and change the perception on Bond 25 being a problem child. She looks like she's abount to cement herself in the A-list with Jordan Peele's Us as well. If this film gets as much hype as Get Out then the chances of Lupita signing on do shrink. But never underestimate Babs.

    Also, i can already see the think pieces online that Bond is poaching from Black Panther - when they film overtly stole from Bond and in particular Skyfall.

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  • Posts: 4,889
    Dear @Pierce2Daniel

    I really wish you would read my posts: as I have stated repeatedly, I report what I hear, and the access I have. I reported a march 2019 start date, and said over and over to Panchito, I had never heard of a March 4 date specifically-- but, you, of course, edit things in your own mind to fit your agenda, my friend.

    A March 2019 start was what was reported on EoN's official production site on IMdbPro-- I made that clear and I emailed posters a snapshot of this.

    And it's kind of creepy you're keeping an eye on my posts, P2D--I mean seriously, that's messed up!

    But, unfortunately for you, you're wrong, again.

    As many readers on this thread know, I haven't been "quiet". Because of your disruptive behaviour (including your latest accusation), I have been contacting posters by PM and EM, and we have been sharing information I have collected, or that they have collected...

    (plus, you know, real life...).

    I'm happy you finally found a person that can feed you information-- as we have joked about you, P2D, you will likely burn that bridge inside of two weeks.

    I have asked for you time and again, not to address me. I hope the mods will see this is getting ridiculous and will also give you a friendly reminder, to stop your passive little digs. You come off like the desperate child you are.

  • edited February 22 Posts: 3,007
    It just so happens that I have some intel about the press conference at Pinewood. But considering members have been joking about me behind my back, I’ll just leave reporting it
  • Posts: 4,889
    It just so happens that I have some intel about the press conference at Pinewood. But considering members have been joking about me behind my back, I’ll just leave reporting it

    Oh. No. Say. It. Ain't. So.

    Please. Don't. Punish. Us.

    G'day, P2D.
  • barryt007barryt007 Getting counselling by Sir Roger over how to kill Kara Milovy
    Posts: 18,470
    Looks like the verbal acid is welling up again on this thread.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 22 Posts: 1,503
    Let’s just move on, again it’s actually quite funny to see these people report on the (w/t) of Shatterhand, seeing as it’s been there for ages. God, reporters have gotten even lazier.

    Plus, I really don’t want it to be the title.
  • barryt007barryt007 Getting counselling by Sir Roger over how to kill Kara Milovy
    Posts: 18,470
    Does anyone know where the 'blind villain' rumour has come from ?

    Stealing a bit from the Eiger Sanction there maybe.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 1,503
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Does anyone know where the 'blind villain' rumour has come from ?

    Stealing a bit from the Eiger Sanction there maybe.
    What blind villain rumour?
  • BennyBenny Moderator
    Posts: 8,693
    Getafix wrote: »
    The casting department needs to liven things up a bit. The casting in CR was without doubt the best of the entire Craig era. Green, Mikkelson, Wright and Gianninni were all brilliant. And the other minor roles were also really nicely cast. It had the feel of early Bond in terms of the casting.

    We need more of that less well known casting.

    The more recent casting has left me bored.

    Bang on the money @Getafix
    The relative unknown actor in the early Bond films are part of the appeal to me of the earlier films in the series. Since Halle Berry appeared in (and overshadowed) DAD, the bigger named stars in Bond films have rarely delivered. Save Javier Bardem.
    I always find myself taken out of the movie somewhat due to the actor's appearance. Waltz is a very good and talented actor, and given better material to work with it wouldn't bother me too much. But I find myself distracted by the named star who seems to be saying 'look it's me in a Bond film.'
    I think Lupita Nyong'o is a very talented actress with a lot of appeal. Given the right character and material too work with, I wouldn't be adverse to her appearing. If it's just for the sake of landing an Oscar winner, then I'm not bothered at all.


  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Someone picked a random "interesting" premise from a continuation Bond novel two years ago and distributed it in a fake article worldwide. Fans have been speculating that the film after Spectre would be called Shatterhand due to the Blofeld pinnacle and the way some think/thought the chronology would go. That article said producers were going to adapt Benson's novel Never Dream of Dying, and Benson himself denied ever having a conversation with the Eon Productions reps.

    So, no. That article didn't do any research and thinks the title Shatterhand originated from there. This is the downside of the internet. Anybody can sell any story to anybody online and a lot of people not in the know (most of those not caring to find out themselves) would believe it. Today's journalism is pure speculation without any proper research even it's embarrassing.

    Shatterhand may be the working title in that production data site. But, it's far from confirming that it definitely is the title of the next film. It could be. Not saying it couldn't. It's just that the sources in that article are nonexistent and are lifted from fan speculations from the Bond lore community circles. Nothing more. The Benson novel claim, however, is pure balderdash anyone with half a brain would smell a million miles away from.
  • BennyBenny Moderator
    Posts: 8,693
    @Pierce2Daniel and @peter please give it a rest with trying to outsmart each other.
    There's no overall winner at the end of production. No one tallies up each 'news' story members post, to confirm the greatest news contributor to Bond 25.
    @PanchitoPistoles is currently serving a week long suspension for not listening when repeatedly asked to stop with his behaviour.
    You're both well regarded news breakers. Please stop with the back and forth arguing.
    Thanks.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 22 Posts: 1,503
    Someone picked a random "interesting" premise from a continuation Bond novel two years ago and distributed it in a fake article worldwide. Fans have been speculating that the film after Spectre would be called Shatterhand due to the Blofeld pinnacle and the way some think/thought the chronology would go. That article said producers were going to adapt Benson's novel Never Dream of Dying, and Benson himself denied ever having a conversation with the Eon Productions reps.

    So, no. That article didn't do any research and thinks the title Shatterhand originated from there. This is the downside of the internet. Anybody can sell any story to anybody online and a lot of people not in the know (most of those not caring to find out themselves) would believe it. Today's journalism is pure speculation without any proper research even it's embarrassing.

    Shatterhand may be the working title in that production data site. But, it's far from confirming that it definitely is the title of the next film. It could be. Not saying it couldn't. It's just that the sources in that article are nonexistent and are lifted from fan speculations from the Bond lore community circles. Nothing more. The Benson novel claim, however, is pure balderdash anyone with half a brain would smell a million miles away from.
    Finally someone says it, thank you @ClarkDevlin :)
  • 00Agent00Agent "Relaxing at his usual suite in the Steinberger Hotel in Vienna."
    edited February 22 Posts: 3,756
    Someone picked a random "interesting" premise from a continuation Bond novel two years ago and distributed it in a fake article worldwide. Fans have been speculating that the film after Spectre would be called Shatterhand due to the Blofeld pinnacle and the way some think/thought the chronology would go. That article said producers were going to adapt Benson's novel Never Dream of Dying, and Benson himself denied ever having a conversation with the Eon Productions reps.

    So, no. That article didn't do any research and thinks the title Shatterhand originated from there. This is the downside of the internet. Anybody can sell any story to anybody online and a lot of people not in the know (most of those not caring to find out themselves) would believe it. Today's journalism is pure speculation without any proper research even it's embarrassing.

    Shatterhand may be the working title in that production data site. But, it's far from confirming that it definitely is the title of the next film. It could be. Not saying it couldn't. It's just that the sources in that article are nonexistent and are lifted from fan speculations from the Bond lore community circles. Nothing more. The Benson novel claim, however, is pure balderdash anyone with half a brain would smell a million miles away from.

    giphy.webp
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Also, do you guys remember the loads of articles from 2011 saying B23 was going to be an adaptation of Carte Blanche? And then, articles making a claim that Devil May Care was going to be the title of the 24th film in the franchise? ;)
    00Agent wrote: »
    giphy.webp
    Quite!!!!
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Someone picked a random "interesting" premise from a continuation Bond novel two years ago and distributed it in a fake article worldwide. Fans have been speculating that the film after Spectre would be called Shatterhand due to the Blofeld pinnacle and the way some think/thought the chronology would go. That article said producers were going to adapt Benson's novel Never Dream of Dying, and Benson himself denied ever having a conversation with the Eon Productions reps.

    So, no. That article didn't do any research and thinks the title Shatterhand originated from there. This is the downside of the internet. Anybody can sell any story to anybody online and a lot of people not in the know (most of those not caring to find out themselves) would believe it. Today's journalism is pure speculation without any proper research even it's embarrassing.

    Shatterhand may be the working title in that production data site. But, it's far from confirming that it definitely is the title of the next film. It could be. Not saying it couldn't. It's just that the sources in that article are nonexistent and are lifted from fan speculations from the Bond lore community circles. Nothing more. The Benson novel claim, however, is pure balderdash anyone with half a brain would smell a million miles away from.
    Finally someone says it, thank you @ClarkDevlin :)
    My pleasure, my friend. I couldn't resist. Someone had to put things together. ;)
  • barryt007barryt007 Getting counselling by Sir Roger over how to kill Kara Milovy
    Posts: 18,470
    Denbigh wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Does anyone know where the 'blind villain' rumour has come from ?

    Stealing a bit from the Eiger Sanction there maybe.
    What blind villain rumour?

    In the Telegraph article I posted above.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 1,503
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Does anyone know where the 'blind villain' rumour has come from ?

    Stealing a bit from the Eiger Sanction there maybe.
    What blind villain rumour?

    In the Telegraph article I posted above.
    Oh that’s based off Never Dream of Dying, the leader of the Union is blind.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 176
    Getafix wrote: »
    The casting department needs to liven things up a bit. The casting in CR was without doubt the best of the entire Craig era. Green, Mikkelson, Wright and Gianninni were all brilliant. And the other minor roles were also really nicely cast. It had the feel of early Bond in terms of the casting.

    We need more of that less well known casting.

    The more recent casting has left me bored.

    This! Brilliant post totally agree. Almost if not every person in that film is perfectly cast.

    I would love to see another Sévérine from Skyfall style casting personally. Bérénice Marlohe a beautiful talented actress who was perfect age for Craig's Bond at that point and they had a great chemistry. She was a highlight of Skyfall for me

    With that being said I'm hopeful that Lupita Nyong'o will be great in the film, if she was cast. I'm not familiar with a lot of her work but she was great in Black Panther. Also the fact that Burns is halfway through is promising.
  • edited February 22 Posts: 4,889
    Benny wrote: »
    @Pierce2Daniel and @peter please give it a rest with trying to outsmart each other.
    There's no overall winner at the end of production. No one tallies up each 'news' story members post, to confirm the greatest news contributor to Bond 25.
    @PanchitoPistoles is currently serving a week long suspension for not listening when repeatedly asked to stop with his behaviour.
    You're both well regarded news breakers. Please stop with the back and forth arguing.
    Thanks.

    Thanks @Benny

    I just wanted to make clear I'm not trying to outsmart anyone. I have purposely kept a low-profile so I wasn't p****ng on anyone's parade. If I had any info I was allowed to share, I'd do so. And more recently in PMs or EMs. I've made a great effort to do that.

    But I think the record speaks for itself that someone has gone out of his way to send me troubling PMs, has continued to, unprovoked, come on these threads to accuse me of quite a bit of nonsense. And I stress, unprovoked (even this individual today says I have "gone quiet"; I went quiet to allow this person his victory lap and that's why I decided to communicate with posters in a different way, lol!).

    Unfortunately for me this person is projecting, keeping watch of what and when I post, and it's all a little unsettling.

    As I have said time and again: I am no insider. I know three people connected to EoN, or this production specifically, one being a friend of Gregg's. News comes in, I report it if someone gives me a nod. That's it. And news is constantly changing. I will report on the changes when I hear about them, or read them from a reliable source. That's it. Or, I just have my own point of view.

    It's not a good feeling to have a ban over my head, but, if people-- like the one I seem to have to be constantly dealing with-- continues to come at me, I will present myself accordingly. But, the record will also show, I have repeatedly asked this individual to go on about his merry ways, and leave me out of it.

    There's no intention on my part to outsmart anyone. Or to get banned. But please, do as you see fit. I won't argue with what you must do to me.

    Best,

    Peter Sheldrick
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Germany
    Posts: 794
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Or that he is not in the film.

    Sounds reasonable. Like it.
  • barryt007barryt007 Getting counselling by Sir Roger over how to kill Kara Milovy
    Posts: 18,470
    Denbigh wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Does anyone know where the 'blind villain' rumour has come from ?

    Stealing a bit from the Eiger Sanction there maybe.
    What blind villain rumour?

    In the Telegraph article I posted above.
    Oh that’s based off Never Dream of Dying, the leader of the Union is blind.

    Aaah I haven't read that,thanks for the heads up !
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    With all those 'news reports' (good lord, there's been more articles on the supposed title than Lupita) and not to mention the mockery by the film press I'd say chances of SHATTERHAND actually being used have shot right down.

    I'm sure EON are gauging the reactions to this to make their decision.

    On a side note I guess this goes to show the state (particularly economic) of film news reporting, because of course we've known that Production Weekly had this for so long and so did other people but then they wisely chose not to report it..until that ComicBook.com site did and everyone felt they absolutely had to.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
    Posts: 280
    They killed off Giancarlo Giannini way too easily in QoS, he was perfect Bond's partner. Him as Mathis and Jeffrey Wright as Felix were dream duo.
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    if I am the reason that anyone is holding back info I apologize and would hope that people will say info I would be appreciative of it.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    edited February 22 Posts: 482
    I agree with others, I’m bored with Oscar, A-listers being courted and casted. Lupita is attractive but wholesome and I don’t think she would remotely make a good henchwoman...

    Instead of just casting a name, can they write an interesting character and try and find someone appropriate to play them and make sure the person has chemistry with Craig and do some readings or screen tests.

    And more Moneypenny, more bad news. I hope it’s all bogus or falls through.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 1,503
    I’ll judge whether she’s good for the part when I see the film, if she’s cast, although I do think she’s a good actress. Plus it’s always nice to see more representation in such films as James Bond.
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    I would also hope the caliber of this discussion is not truly at a point where well-regarded posters are knowingly withholding relevant info due to the temperature in the room. That's only a loss for us all.



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