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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Oh my goodness. I am trying so hard now to not get my hopes up!!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,971
    Stay “tuned” so to speak.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,330
    Ohmygosh ohmygosh ohmygosh!!!! :O
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,533
    Trying not to get too excited.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Roadphill wrote: »
    I don't think anybody really thinks that MI as a whole is better than the Bond series. It clearly isn't.

    That being said, Fallout was a much more enjoyable watch than Spectre. It had a nice carefree vibe and a whiff of the spectacle that, in my opinion, Bond has been missing since Casino Royale.

    Fair enough. But I think in the Craig era, overall, EON has attempted to tack in a different direction: to bring some intellectual properties to the series. They were successful in CR and SF, QoS didn't have a chance because of script issues, though Forster did some dynamic stuff (the Tosca scene was beautiful). SP was a misstep, though some of the deeper, really important themes are there.

    I think it's a calculated plan by EON and one I applaud.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    I was expecting Fukunaga to bring in his own composer but would be perfectly happy if Arnold returned.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,544
    I'd be too but it's really surprising. Ten years ago, many here would have been ready to drink the man's blood. Now they're ready to have his babies. ;)
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    That's what Thomas Newman does to you.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,544
    Getafix wrote: »
    That's what Thomas Newman does to you.

    I suppose so. ;)

    Well, I for one have always liked what Arnold did with CR and QOS, so if he were to return, I'd be all for it.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,266
    00Agent wrote: »

    Too bad. Maybe we can still luck out.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    In fairness, more time has elapsed since Arnold left the series, than he ever spend scoring Bond films. In that time, he hasn’t been overly prolific in film scoring.

    We got Thomas Newman as he was Mendes’s go-to composer. I imagine that Fukunaga – who is as much an auteur as Mendes - will be pushing for his own composer. His most frequent collaborator is Dan Romer. So I presume he is pole position.

    Though, we do know that Eon were hesitant on Newman and it was Mendes who convinced them otherwise. I imagine, Fukunaga is having a similar discussion with respect to his own composer choices. There’s a good chance Eon might be pushing for Arnold but I think that boat may have sailed in the last 10 years. I’m curious who will compose the Rhythm Section. I feel there may be some cross-over between that project and Bond 25.

    For example, I suspect that Melanie Oliver may edit Bond 25 since she’s doing Rhythm Section and also did Fukunaga’s Jane Eyre
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0646941/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr16

    Possibly with Sean Bobbitt serving as Director of Photography
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0090312/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr15

    In other news, I tweeted Baz last night and he seemed to allude to some Bond scoop in the works:


  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    TripAces wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    I don't think anybody really thinks that MI as a whole is better than the Bond series. It clearly isn't.

    That being said, Fallout was a much more enjoyable watch than Spectre. It had a nice carefree vibe and a whiff of the spectacle that, in my opinion, Bond has been missing since Casino Royale.

    Fair enough. But I think in the Craig era, overall, EON has attempted to tack in a different direction: to bring some intellectual properties to the series. They were successful in CR and SF, QoS didn't have a chance because of script issues, though Forster did some dynamic stuff (the Tosca scene was beautiful). SP was a misstep, though some of the deeper, really important themes are there.

    I think it's a calculated plan by EON and one I applaud.

    @TripAces I agree on CR to a degree, but Skyfall was so self important and pretentious it put me off. Well made, but dreary stuff.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited November 2018 Posts: 2,541
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Blofeld0064 wrote: »
    Speaking of felix if Jeffrey Wright does return for B25 what kind of role do you see felix playing in fukunaga's bond film?

    Hopefully something along his appearance in his Dynamite comics storyline. Make him have a point! And let him get in on the action for once!

    I would like that, the only bit of action scene I remember Felix doing was in license to kill.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Resurrection wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Blofeld0064 wrote: »
    Speaking of felix if Jeffrey Wright does return for B25 what kind of role do you see felix playing in fukunaga's bond film?

    Hopefully something along his appearance in his Dynamite comics storyline. Make him have a point! And let him get in on the action for once!

    I would like that, the only bit of action scene I remember Felix doing was in license to kill.

    That was my point. Give him a storyline like M in Skyfall. A decent actor can earn it over a couple of movies.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I will have to kindly but radically disagree. I don't want Felix to have any kind of an arc that bears any sort of similarity to how M was given the treatment in SF. That was an awful one, self-important and very pretentious like one of the members here said.

    Felix, first and foremost, is a supporting character who, while being a capable CIA counterpart to Bond, is an ally. I don't want the LTK treatment, either. The best we could do as to demonstrate Felix's skills and capability is to have him planted in a terrorist organization posing as a mole, and just so happens Bond's path crosses Leiter's very own.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    A complete list of theatrical feature films David Arnold composed scores for since his last Bond movie:

    Agent Crush
    Made in Dagenham
    Morning Glory
    The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
    Paul
    The Inbetweeners 2

    Why would the great Fukunaga want to work with someone as second rate as Arnold?
  • AgentM72AgentM72
    Posts: 820
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »

    In other news, I tweeted Baz last night and he seemed to allude to some Bond scoop in the works:


    Neat! It's getting to be about that time again...

  • bondsumbondsum
    Posts: 3,333
    For the record, I'm not against Dan Romer doing the score; he might bring something more energetic to the movie than Newman did. I've been going over some of his past work and it's quite eclectic, though nothing particularly stands out as Bondish to me. That doesn't mean he can't do it, it's just I'm not hearing anything that Arnold could'not do better. Again, we're too far-off from a composer being named at this stage, so any speculating will just be that... speculation. Out of interest, if anyone's found a Bond-like excerpt of music by Dan Romer, I'd be interested to hear it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @bondsum, I certainly heard some interesting work from him on the Maniac series and posted it in the composer thread. Is it purely Bondian? Perhaps not, but I see potential, and with a bigger budget and orchestra, I think he has the chops to create some memorable melodic cues.

    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/comment/928558/#Comment_928558
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
    Posts: 243
    Still holding out that David Arnold is just throwing us off and that he will return to composing duties but at the same time I would definitely welcome a new composer I wonder if daniel pemberton still has a chance.



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    Yes please have something for us baz!

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »

    In other news, I tweeted Baz last night and he seemed to allude to some Bond scoop in the works:


    Neat! It's getting to be about that time again...

    Interesting, but what could Baz possibly know that we don’t? There’s virtually no new news, and Baz probably hasn’t updated us in awhile because there’s simply nothing to update.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    A complete list of theatrical feature films David Arnold composed scores for since his last Bond movie:

    Agent Crush
    Made in Dagenham
    Morning Glory
    The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
    Paul
    The Inbetweeners 2

    Why would the great Fukunaga want to work with someone as second rate as Arnold?

    A complete list of theatrical feature films Daniel Craig has starred in since his last Bond movie:

    Logan Lucky
    Kings

    Why would the great Fukunaga want to work with someone as second rate as Craig?
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited November 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Walecs wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    A complete list of theatrical feature films David Arnold composed scores for since his last Bond movie:

    Agent Crush
    Made in Dagenham
    Morning Glory
    The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
    Paul
    The Inbetweeners 2

    Why would the great Fukunaga want to work with someone as second rate as Arnold?

    A complete list of theatrical feature films Daniel Craig has starred in since his last Bond movie:

    Logan Lucky
    Kings

    Why would the great Fukunaga want to work with someone as second rate as Craig?

    Ha ha best response
  • bondsumbondsum
    edited November 2018 Posts: 3,333
    Yes, thanks @bondjames. I was aware of the score for Maniac, but it was Dan Romer's other scores I was quite curious about. From my own small research he does sound quite experimental, often relying on the cello and the occasional strings to create haunting scores. Thing is, I don't want a haunting score for Bond. If Dan Romer can actually score a piece of music that has that big traditional Bond sound then I'm all for it. If, however, he's just going to be another bland and contemporary sound sculptor composer (Newman, Zimmer) who creates textures and haunting themes then forget it. I just don't know enough about Dan Romer's musical repertoire to discount him yet.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    We’re calling him “the great Fukunaga” now? I’m as excited to see his Bond film as anyone, but maybe let’s see his Bond film first.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    We’re calling him “the great Fukunaga” now? I’m as excited to see his Bond film as anyone, but maybe let’s see his Bond film first.

    I'd never heard of him before he got B25, to be honest.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    We’re calling him “the great Fukunaga” now? I’m as excited to see his Bond film as anyone, but maybe let’s see his Bond film first.
    I'd never heard of him before he got B25, to be honest.
    Same.
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
    Posts: 243
    I watched beasts of no nation last night that film was so incredible the realism that fukunaga brings to it is so awesome and he did such a beautiful job on the cinematography that I wouldn't mind if fukunaga was both the director and the cinematographer.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited November 2018 Posts: 6,677
    Believe the hype, he already is The Great Fukunaga. Don’t believe me? we’ll talk in a few years from now.
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