Who should/could be a Bond actor? *SPOILERS*

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @Univex you're a brilliant user on this mate, I rate your opinion massively. I understand where you're coming from but please don't stop posting, it's the well mannered few who disagree that ultimately further the conversation.
    I agree with your post wholeheartedly by the way, Casino was the breath of fresh air that reignited my passion for this series as well

    I personally think a black male M, would be a stronger path for the series at this point. Seeing M being represented by a black man would be a huge leap forwards for the series in my opinion, like it was to see Judi Dench as M in 1995.
    I'd quite like to see Lennie James or Noma Dumezweni. I think they'd both make really good Ms.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited November 2021 Posts: 1,083
    Good suggestions mate, both would nail it.
    I would love to see Colin Salmon back a new as M, he's a great actor and he has a fantastic powerful voice. I could picture him lecturing Bond

    I think Eon used him to narrate a Skyfall documentary as well in 2012
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @Univex you're a brilliant user on this mate, I rate your opinion massively. I understand where you're coming from but please don't stop posting, it's the well mannered few who disagree that ultimately further the conversation.
    I agree with your post wholeheartedly by the way, Casino was the breath of fresh air that reignited my passion for this series as well

    I personally think a black male M, would be a stronger path for the series at this point. Seeing M being represented by a black man would be a huge leap forwards for the series in my opinion, like it was to see Judi Dench as M in 1995.
    I'd quite like to see Lennie James or Noma Dumezweni. I think they'd both make really good Ms.

    She's very cool; I was kind of hoping she'd be Dr Who.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Good suggestions mate, both would nail it.
    I would love to see Colin Salmon back a new as M, he's a great actor and he has a fantastic powerful voice. I could picture him lecturing Bond

    I think Eon used him to narrate a Skyfall documentary as well in 2012

    I'd rather have Ralph Fiennes back as M, like Dench did.
  • edited November 2021 Posts: 8,929
    Univex wrote: »
    If so, they will loose me as a fan.

    Not that they should care, or anyone else for that matter.

    Actually, since NTTD I've been feeling more and more like I did after the winter of 2002. I just hope someday a winter of 2006 will happen again. I'm glad some of you guys don't feel the same. Honestly, I'm glad for you. Keep it up. I'll probably be out of it, waiting for better days, with little hope.

    Part of me thinks they'll go back to the roots and to the books and make something canonical in what the original material is concerned. But nowadays that's viewed as being conservative and narrow minded. So whatever comes, it'll probably won't be for me, like Craig's era wasn't for the craignobond fellas. I've always respected their position, but not their way of showcasing their emotions and opinions, so I'll refrain myself from posting and from the forums. That is, if they further subvert and strip Bond from recognition. It was enough for me to see him as an apple-peeling dad, it was enough for me to see him die, it was enough for me to see him blonde for 15 years, despite my love and respect for Daniel Craig.

    So, that's that.


    I fear for the future as well, though I love most of No Time to Die I fear the future is dark and well strange...

    I dont get why it is wrong to want bond to remain a certain way. but I know many are passionate arguments on both sides.


    For me if they do go with casting another ethnicity as Bond I might give it a shot but I might not.


    The reason I push for actors like Hardy is because if it isn't broken why break it? Having an actor in the mold of Craig with flemingesque plots for another decade or so is definitely something I prefer over radical casting and stunt plotting.
  • I just don't get the fascination with Hardy. He's a descent actor but I'd hardly call him great and I just don't see him as Bond.
    As for Bond himself, keep him a white male. Lord knows there are more than enough white British actors with the capability to do justice to the role, regardless if we know who they are or not. The moment they change Vind's ethnicity/skin colour, that's when they would have gone with the ridiculous idea that Bond is a code name nonsense. Bond at that point would be dead to me anyway.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Jimjambond wrote: »
    Lord knows there are more than enough white British actors with the capability to do justice to the role, regardless if we know who they are or not.

    At the moment we're not sure about that! :)
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I personally think a black male M, would be a stronger path for the series at this point. Seeing M being represented by a black man would be a huge leap forwards for the series in my opinion, like it was to see Judi Dench as M in 1995.
    Not sure I can see well yeah okay then I guess so @Jordo007.

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  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Only if it's Colin Salmon...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Only if it's Colin Salmon...

    He would be an excellent choice.

  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    If you're looking for a strong, critically acclaimed actor in the vein of Dame Judy Dench and Ralph Fiennes , then Chiwetel Ejiofor would be a good choice for 'M', imo.
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    If you're looking for a strong, critically acclaimed actor in the vein of Dame Judy Dench and Ralph Fiennes , then Chiwetel Ejiofor would be a good choice for 'M', imo.

    He's a bit young for that, isn't he? I think he looks too youthful anyway. And too soft (one of my reservations for him playing a Bond villain as he was rumoured to do).
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Too old now probably, but I'll still post every picture that confirms Luke Evans would have made an awesome Bond.
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
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    Too old now probably, but I'll still post every picture that confirms Luke Evans would have made an awesome Bond.

    Have to agree, he would be a great Bond I feel. Although he's coming up 43 it's possible he could do a 3 film stint. Sir Rog was 45 when he took on the role in LALD.
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    I'd be over the moon if Luke Evans played Bond.

    Not gonna happen, though :(
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    For anyone interested, that shot's from The Alienist per Evans' Instagram. Lots of good Bond looks for Evans in that show, if the Instagram is any indicator.
  • edited December 2021 Posts: 237
    ...Evans is in great shape and knows how to wear a suit, as opposed to wearing an ill-fitting suit where it looks like the seams and buttons are holding on to dear life.
  • Posts: 13,401
    Benny wrote: »
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    Too old now probably, but I'll still post every picture that confirms Luke Evans would have made an awesome Bond.

    Have to agree, he would be a great Bond I feel. Although he's coming up 43 it's possible he could do a 3 film stint. Sir Rog was 45 when he took on the role in LALD.

    Different times. Roger Moore became Bond when they could still release a movie every year, or two. And my bet is that they'd want someone to last longer than three films.

    Also, and this will never be admitted, but Evans being homosexual, I think they would not dare/would not have dare to cast him. For the record, I'd have no problem whatsoever for a gay actor playing Bond. But I think it would create a controversy, so they'll quietly avoid it.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Benny wrote: »
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    Too old now probably, but I'll still post every picture that confirms Luke Evans would have made an awesome Bond.

    Have to agree, he would be a great Bond I feel. Although he's coming up 43 it's possible he could do a 3 film stint. Sir Rog was 45 when he took on the role in LALD.

    +1
    43 is not too old. 43 IS NOT TOO OLD. NOT NOT NOT. Not over the hill, I won't accept it. A 43 year can and SHOULD still play Bond.
    (BTW I'm 43 years old!😅)
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
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    Too old now probably, but I'll still post every picture that confirms Luke Evans would have made an awesome Bond.

    Have to agree, he would be a great Bond I feel. Although he's coming up 43 it's possible he could do a 3 film stint. Sir Rog was 45 when he took on the role in LALD.

    Different times. Roger Moore became Bond when they could still release a movie every year, or two. And my bet is that they'd want someone to last longer than three films.

    Also, and this will never be admitted, but Evans being homosexual, I think they would not dare/would not have dare to cast him. For the record, I'd have no problem whatsoever for a gay actor playing Bond. But I think it would create a controversy, so they'll quietly avoid it.[/]
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
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    Too old now probably, but I'll still post every picture that confirms Luke Evans would have made an awesome Bond.

    Have to agree, he would be a great Bond I feel. Although he's coming up 43 it's possible he could do a 3 film stint. Sir Rog was 45 when he took on the role in LALD.

    Different times. Roger Moore became Bond when they could still release a movie every year, or two. And my bet is that they'd want someone to last longer than three films.

    Also, and this will never be admitted, but Evans being homosexual, I think they would not dare/would not have dare to cast him. For the record, I'd have no problem whatsoever for a gay actor playing Bond. But I think it would create a controversy, so they'll quietly avoid it.

    I know where you're coming from. I'm sure you're probably right about Evan's age. However it's not impossible to have him take on a three film Bond stint. I sadly have to agree with you on the homosexual part. The press would be relentless in having a gay actor play James Bond. And even if they didn't it would always be an issue, be it via the internet, fans or media. Luke Evans does possess many if not all of the attributes to be a credible James Bond.
  • Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
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    Too old now probably, but I'll still post every picture that confirms Luke Evans would have made an awesome Bond.

    Have to agree, he would be a great Bond I feel. Although he's coming up 43 it's possible he could do a 3 film stint. Sir Rog was 45 when he took on the role in LALD.

    Different times. Roger Moore became Bond when they could still release a movie every year, or two. And my bet is that they'd want someone to last longer than three films.

    Also, and this will never be admitted, but Evans being homosexual, I think they would not dare/would not have dare to cast him. For the record, I'd have no problem whatsoever for a gay actor playing Bond. But I think it would create a controversy, so they'll quietly avoid it.

    I think casting Evans, knowing that he's gay would be a bold move and curry favor. The only problem and controversy would be is if they actually made Bond himself gay.
  • Jimjambond wrote: »
    I think casting Evans, knowing that he's gay would be a bold move and curry favor. The only problem and controversy would be is if they actually made Bond himself gay.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they made some quite controversial changes to the character in the future. I always thought, as long as it said 'Ian Fleming's James Bond' at the start of the movie, they'd go with Fleming's description of Bond. But the changes they've made in the Craig era, particularly in the last film, makes me think anything will be possible in the future.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Didn't Wishaw recently suggest Evans for Bond?
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    I think for Evans it really is more the age than his sexuality that is keeping him away fom the role. If there were another incident like the Sony leak and it comes out that anyone involved in the decision said "He can't be Bond because he is gay" it would be a sure-fire career-ender. My thinking is closer to @Jimjambond in that I think if anything, casting a gay actor while keeping the character straight (well, there is that scene in Skyfall...) is almost a compromise that signals towards more inclusion without actually changing anything in the text itself.


    I saw The Gentlemen yesterday and have been thinking about Henry Golding, since (Aside: I would take any of Colin Farrell, Charlie Hunnam, Hugh Grant, Jeremy Strong, Tom Wu, Samuel West, Eddie Marsan or Bugzy Malone in a Bond film, but none of them as Bond). Apart from the fashion, this isn't a particularly Bondy role and he hasn't completely blown me away, but here and in Crazy Rich Asians he has an undeniable charm and presence about him, to a point where he might be too good looking for a secret agent.
    What I was specifically thinking about were the various discussions we had on here about some actors looking to young. I had always kind of dismissed that, but seeing him at 34 (30 when Crazy Rich Asians was shot, 31 in The Gentlemen) he looks more mature than say a Nic Hoult, who is only two years younger than him or James Norton, who is actually older than him.
    And he is clean-shaven most of the time ;)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2021 Posts: 9,115
    I actually was hoping to be a bit more impressed by him in The Gentlemen than I was, but I haven't seen Crazy Rich Asians.

    I guess he's better in it than Charlie Hummam, who isn't convincing at all as a hard man and just generally comes across as a blank. And you've got Hugh Grant and McConaughey being proper stars in it.
  • Posts: 5,735
    Wouldn't it be just incredible if EON had the b***s to do an adult, fully fledged Bond film, with him at his prime, doing his thing with panache and know how, with Luke Evans in the role, with no soap opera betrayal rogue drama, and just style and quality fun, a beautifully written (by different writers, not bloody P&W) fun espionage thriller. Old school, centred in one exotic location to contrast with London. Do it with a splashy big brass song, instead of emo ballads. And make it spot on the two hours mark, will ya? We don't need an epic, we need to have epic fun, epic style, an epic portrait of the canonical James Bond we loved for decades. That's what's epic. Not a bloated three hour retcon subversive drama (again).

    But I guess that's not fashionable anymore.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2021 Posts: 9,115
    Well I don't think we have to play the martyr, we're allowed to hope for some things. Some of those bits I'd like, some I'm less bothered about. I quite like a Bond film to be in around three locations (one for the PTS, one for the first act, then move to one for the main chunk of the film), I quite like the ideas P&W come up with and although there are better writers in the world, I haven't really seen much in the way of considered explanations as to why they're so terrible. And betrayal has long been a pretty common element of spy dramas. I like a big song, and we got one of those two films ago and it went to no.1 and won an Oscar, so pretending they're out of fashion like the world is against us seems contrary to the evidence.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Luke Evans is a great actor and would make a fantastic Bond. He's one of few that tick all the boxes
  • He's the opposite of a ladies man. Get thinking straight.
  • Posts: 5,735
    He has to play a ladies man, not be one. It’s called acting.
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