Tiger said:You're a fan of something/someone when you admit you are a fan of such. It doesn't take owning first editions of the books, nor being the first in line to see the new film. You are what you are when you want to be.
VeryBond said:Unless two of the films in the series piss you off.
0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 said:This whole argument is pointless. If you like any media with Bond apart of it, whether it is the novels, the films, or the games, who cares? You are a fan then, and are no lesser one than anyone else, no matter how die hard they are.
Agent007391 said:I feel that you're not a real Bond fan unless you've read at least one Fleming book and seen at least one Connery movie.
0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 said:This whole argument is pointless. If you like any media with Bond apart of it, whether it is the novels, the films, or the games, who cares? You are a fan then, and are no lesser one than anyone else, no matter how die hard they are.
MartinBond said:the people who know the licence plate of those cars as well.
MartinBond said:Come to think of it, you sort-of have 2 categories, the fans, like my dad, who knows the make and model of every main bond-car, and the bond-nuts, the walking encyclopedia's, the people who know the licence plate of those cars as well.
RC7 said:
00Beast said:If you haven't read any of the novels, I say who cares!
I'm guessing you're quite young. Without them there is no Bond, simple. You don't have to read them but show some respect.
RC7 said:
00Beast said:If you haven't read any of the novels, I say who cares!
I'm guessing you're quite young. Without them there is no Bond, simple. You don't have to read them but show some respect.
SirHenryLeeChaChing said:Hey now, happy 16th Beast, whenever that was.
The books are very important. Glad to see you're reading them. You should see some good similarities between novel Moonraker and your fave movie GE.
00Beast said:You're not a real Bond fan until you have seen all 22 movies, and come November, all 23 movies. I think this alone can basically sum up the entire thread. If you haven't read any of the novels, I say who cares! The world of 007 is more well-known and popular with the movies anyway, so don't concern yourself with the books if you don't want to. Also, and even though I myself am probably the biggest fan of the Bond games around here, I'll say that you don't have to have played one of the games either. Strictly the whole movie series will do, I think, as far as determining one's Bond fanship.
thelivingroyale said:
Agent007391 said:I feel that you're not a real Bond fan unless you've read at least one Fleming book and seen at least one Connery movie.
By that logic though, I wasn't a fan until 2006 (when I read CR, and I probably wouldn't have done if it wasn't for the film being released at that time), even though I got into Bond when TLD came out and I saw it at the cinema.
0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 said:
00Beast said:You're not a real Bond fan until you have seen all 22 movies, and come November, all 23 movies. I think this alone can basically sum up the entire thread. If you haven't read any of the novels, I say who cares! The world of 007 is more well-known and popular with the movies anyway, so don't concern yourself with the books if you don't want to. Also, and even though I myself am probably the biggest fan of the Bond games around here, I'll say that you don't have to have played one of the games either. Strictly the whole movie series will do, I think, as far as determining one's Bond fanship.
There's the issue. If you forget the novels you lose the semblance of who the character was before the movies in part twisted his characteristics through all the iterations by our 6 actors. The novels should never be forgotten, one because they are great, but more importantly because without them we wouldn't have the films, especially the small few that actually adapt the character of Bond well on to the screen.
00Beast said:
0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 said:
00Beast said:You're not a real Bond fan until you have seen all 22 movies, and come November, all 23 movies. I think this alone can basically sum up the entire thread. If you haven't read any of the novels, I say who cares! The world of 007 is more well-known and popular with the movies anyway, so don't concern yourself with the books if you don't want to. Also, and even though I myself am probably the biggest fan of the Bond games around here, I'll say that you don't have to have played one of the games either. Strictly the whole movie series will do, I think, as far as determining one's Bond fanship.
There's the issue. If you forget the novels you lose the semblance of who the character was before the movies in part twisted his characteristics through all the iterations by our 6 actors. The novels should never be forgotten, one because they are great, but more importantly because without them we wouldn't have the films, especially the small few that actually adapt the character of Bond well on to the screen.
I do understand the importance of the novels and how they have shaped the character of 007 onto the movies we now know. I certainly appreciate what has been done with the novels, of course. In short, I guess I'm not much of a reader, haha. I find myself getting very impatient trying to trudge through the pages of a novel.
RC7 said:
00Beast said:If you haven't read any of the novels, I say who cares!
I'm guessing you're quite young. Without them there is no Bond, simple. You don't have to read them but show some respect.
TheWizardOfIce said:If you havent read a Fleming novel then you are on extremely shaky ground claiming to be a 'real' Bond fan no matter how many times you have seen the films or played through the games
TheWizardOfIce said:
RC7 said:
00Beast said:If you haven't read any of the novels, I say who cares!
I'm guessing you're quite young. Without them there is no Bond, simple. You don't have to read them but show some respect.
Absolutely. Hardly a surprise as 00Beast has some 'controversial' views on a range of subjects but this takes the cake. To completely dismiss the books like that, the little whippersnapper needs a clip round the ear and teaching some respect before he starts issuing his proclamations on what makes a real Bond fan. Thats what happens when you let kids on these forums I guess. I suppose I should be more mature than to let myself rise to his bait but Jesus Christ.
If you havent read a Fleming novel then you are on extremely shaky ground claiming to be a 'real' Bond fan no matter how many times you have seen the films or played through the games (cant believe we've even reached a point where we are talking about the books and games as if they are equally valid).
Shaky ground of San Andreas fault proportions actually. After project Mainstrike without May Days intervention.
00Beast said:I don't understand where it came to be that in order to be a Bond fan you absolutely must have read a novel or two, like it's rule #1 in the Bond Handbook or something......
.....As for the games, I think they are better than the novels on the sheer basis of enjoyment
Creasy47 said:If someone who had never heard of the world of James Bond rented a Bond film, watched it, loved it, and considered his/herself a fan, then that's what they are: a fan. There's no checklist.
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