slyfox said:Re-watched GE again yesterday. Really enjoyed it. If PB had only done GE, I think the abuse he gets on forums would be almost non-existant. For me, it's his best. They pulled out all the stops to try and create a classic Bond feel to it, and I think they suceeded. Unlike LALD, GE makes it into my top 10 and gets my vote here.
I'd also say both these films have the best non-Barry scores. Both very original soundtracks.
nobodydoesitbetter said:On the soundtrack front I would have to disagree about GE.
slyfox said:Re-watched GE again yesterday. Really enjoyed it. If PB had only done GE, I think the abuse he gets on forums would be almost non-existant. For me, it's his best. They pulled out all the stops to try and create a classic Bond feel to it, and I think they suceeded. Unlike LALD, GE makes it into my top 10 and gets my vote here.
I'd also say both these films have the best non-Barry scores. Both very original soundtracks.
thelivingroyale said:GE
LALD is a good, fun film, Moore is great as usual, the girl is hotter in this one and it has some of the best henchmen in the series, but it has flaws, like the boring PTS.
But GE is a great Bond film, in my top 5, with a better main villian than LALD, and I prefer Brosnan to Moore. There's also great action, a nice BMW, and it proved Bond could exist after the cold war.
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:GE
LALD is a good, fun film, Moore is great as usual, the girl is hotter in this one and it has some of the best henchmen in the series, but it has flaws, like the boring PTS.
But GE is a great Bond film, in my top 5, with a better main villian than LALD, and I prefer Brosnan to Moore. There's also great action, a nice BMW, and it proved Bond could exist after the cold war.
that does nothing...that was always one of the things in GE that made no sense. They have Q explain to Bond all the added extras and then we don't see it. They don't use the car for anything...apart from driving down a dirt road..Imagine in Goldfinger Q explains to Bond that the DB5 has an ejector seat and then we never see the ejector seat being used. Whats the point?
thelivingroyale said:
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:GE
LALD is a good, fun film, Moore is great as usual, the girl is hotter in this one and it has some of the best henchmen in the series, but it has flaws, like the boring PTS.
But GE is a great Bond film, in my top 5, with a better main villian than LALD, and I prefer Brosnan to Moore. There's also great action, a nice BMW, and it proved Bond could exist after the cold war.
that does nothing...that was always one of the things in GE that made no sense. They have Q explain to Bond all the added extras and then we don't see it. They don't use the car for anything...apart from driving down a dirt road..Imagine in Goldfinger Q explains to Bond that the DB5 has an ejector seat and then we never see the ejector seat being used. Whats the point?
I think that's actually a good thing about some of the films. That Bond has gadgets but doesn't use them, let's be honest, it's kind of unrealistic when Bond just happens to need all the gadgets Q has given him.
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:GE
LALD is a good, fun film, Moore is great as usual, the girl is hotter in this one and it has some of the best henchmen in the series, but it has flaws, like the boring PTS.
But GE is a great Bond film, in my top 5, with a better main villian than LALD, and I prefer Brosnan to Moore. There's also great action, a nice BMW, and it proved Bond could exist after the cold war.
that does nothing...that was always one of the things in GE that made no sense. They have Q explain to Bond all the added extras and then we don't see it. They don't use the car for anything...apart from driving down a dirt road..Imagine in Goldfinger Q explains to Bond that the DB5 has an ejector seat and then we never see the ejector seat being used. Whats the point?
I think that's actually a good thing about some of the films. That Bond has gadgets but doesn't use them, let's be honest, it's kind of unrealistic when Bond just happens to need all the gadgets Q has given him.
But from a story stand point each scene should more or less have a relation to a future scene. This is why we have Q give Bond the gadget. We know that in the progression of the story on screen Bond is going to need to use the gadget to get out of a tricky situation. Apart from GE I can't think of a single gadget that Q gives Bond and then he doesn't use it during the film. In LALD for example BOND uses the magnetic watch to help him get out of the tricky situation during the films climax. From a story point it makes no sense in GE that we have this exchange between Q and Bond about the BMW and then we never see any outcome of this. It seems like a waste.
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:GE
LALD is a good, fun film, Moore is great as usual, the girl is hotter in this one and it has some of the best henchmen in the series, but it has flaws, like the boring PTS.
But GE is a great Bond film, in my top 5, with a better main villian than LALD, and I prefer Brosnan to Moore. There's also great action, a nice BMW, and it proved Bond could exist after the cold war.
that does nothing...that was always one of the things in GE that made no sense. They have Q explain to Bond all the added extras and then we don't see it. They don't use the car for anything...apart from driving down a dirt road..Imagine in Goldfinger Q explains to Bond that the DB5 has an ejector seat and then we never see the ejector seat being used. Whats the point?
I think that's actually a good thing about some of the films. That Bond has gadgets but doesn't use them, let's be honest, it's kind of unrealistic when Bond just happens to need all the gadgets Q has given him.
But from a story stand point each scene should more or less have a relation to a future scene. This is why we have Q give Bond the gadget. We know that in the progression of the story on screen Bond is going to need to use the gadget to get out of a tricky situation. Apart from GE I can't think of a single gadget that Q gives Bond and then he doesn't use it during the film. In LALD for example BOND uses the magnetic watch to help him get out of the tricky situation during the films climax. From a story point it makes no sense in GE that we have this exchange between Q and Bond about the BMW and then we never see any outcome of this. It seems like a waste.
JBFan626 said:
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:
nobodydoesitbetter said:
thelivingroyale said:GE
LALD is a good, fun film, Moore is great as usual, the girl is hotter in this one and it has some of the best henchmen in the series, but it has flaws, like the boring PTS.
But GE is a great Bond film, in my top 5, with a better main villian than LALD, and I prefer Brosnan to Moore. There's also great action, a nice BMW, and it proved Bond could exist after the cold war.
that does nothing...that was always one of the things in GE that made no sense. They have Q explain to Bond all the added extras and then we don't see it. They don't use the car for anything...apart from driving down a dirt road..Imagine in Goldfinger Q explains to Bond that the DB5 has an ejector seat and then we never see the ejector seat being used. Whats the point?
I think that's actually a good thing about some of the films. That Bond has gadgets but doesn't use them, let's be honest, it's kind of unrealistic when Bond just happens to need all the gadgets Q has given him.
But from a story stand point each scene should more or less have a relation to a future scene. This is why we have Q give Bond the gadget. We know that in the progression of the story on screen Bond is going to need to use the gadget to get out of a tricky situation. Apart from GE I can't think of a single gadget that Q gives Bond and then he doesn't use it during the film. In LALD for example BOND uses the magnetic watch to help him get out of the tricky situation during the films climax. From a story point it makes no sense in GE that we have this exchange between Q and Bond about the BMW and then we never see any outcome of this. It seems like a waste.
Exactly! Think of the satisfaction one gets from Bond finally using the gadget briefcase at the end of FRWL--gold sovereigns, the smoke screen and the knife all in one sequence! The only time the gadgets shouldn't be used is if they are there for comedic effect. Otherwise, the gadgets should be used in the plot.
BAIN123 said:Re-watched LALD recently after GF. Believe me it really isn't THAT great.
00Beast said:
BAIN123 said:Re-watched LALD recently after GF. Believe me it really isn't THAT great.
Was it the lack of epic action to make you say this? Because if it is, I agree with you. LALD's action isn't terrific by any means. Only parts of the boat chase and the fight with Tee Hee are worth watching really.
JBFan626 said:
00Beast said:
BAIN123 said:Re-watched LALD recently after GF. Believe me it really isn't THAT great.
Was it the lack of epic action to make you say this? Because if it is, I agree with you. LALD's action isn't terrific by any means. Only parts of the boat chase and the fight with Tee Hee are worth watching really.
Personally I think that boat chase is pretty extraordinary. If I'm not mistaken, a world record was set in that scene with one of the boat jumps.
Lest we forget the airplane scene with Bond as Flight Instructor?
JBFan626 said:
00Beast said:
BAIN123 said:Re-watched LALD recently after GF. Believe me it really isn't THAT great.
Lest we forget the airplane scene with Bond as Flight Instructor?
That's another thing that bugs me! As I said on another thread how does Mrs Bell end up in Intensive Care? She may have been shocked but she looked fine after Bond's antics. She must have had a heart attack in which case "hilarity" :))
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