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Off the reservation: Your unpopular Bond opinions.

chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
edited August 2013 in Bond Movies Posts: 17,687
What opinions on Bond movies do you have that are unusual, not mainstream here, or just plain off the wall?

Here are mine:

DN is better than FRWL.
OHMSS is NOT in my top five Bond movies.
DAD is watchable if I'm in the proper mood.
I favour Brosnan over Craig.
SF is not nearly as good as CR & QOS.
TMWTGG is a good movie, and JW is funny in it.
TSWLM is NOT Moore's best Bond film.

Tell us yours & be open to criticism!

Comments

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,330
    Here's my small list.

    Connery is Overrated.
    Brosnan is Excellent.
    Craig is the Best Bond.
    The Living Daylights isn't as good as everyone says it is.
    The Man With The Golden Gun is worse than Diamonds are Forever.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    Murdock wrote:
    The Living Daylights isn't as good as everyone says it is.
    Of course not; it's much better. :)) :)) :))

    Okay, it might be that you're correct here, but when I watch it, it glues me to the screen like no other Bond movie. To me, it's magic despite the pedestrian film direction.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited August 2013 Posts: 3,494
    chrisisall wrote:
    What opinions on Bond movies do you have that are unusual, not mainstream here, or just plain off the wall?

    Here are mine:

    DN is better than FRWL.
    OHMSS is NOT in my top five Bond movies.
    DAD is watchable if I'm in the proper mood.
    I favour Brosnan over Craig.
    SF is not nearly as good as CR & QOS.
    TMWTGG is a good movie, and JW is funny in it.
    TSWLM is NOT Moore's best Bond film.

    Tell us yours & be open to criticism!

    Good idea Chris! Just off my head without too much forethought-

    1. LTK is a top 5 Bond entry.
    2. Hugo Drax is not a great villain, and even worse than Gustav Graves.
    3. GF is the still the greatest Bond film to date (many still agree yes, but it seems fashionable to disagree nowadays in favor of FRWL and other entries).
    4. GE is not Brosnan's best acting performance.
    5. OHMSS is not a top 5 Bond film and Lazenby is highly overrated.
    6. Brosnan is still better than Lazenby.
    7. David Arnold is a solid composer who should be invited to return.
    8. J.W Pepper is a great character.
    9. Severine is a former sex slave with a mind of her own.
    10. QOS is a much better film than the likes of DAD, MR, TWINE, DAF, and TMWTGG, and has it's merits.

    Agreed about TLD, disagree that Brosnan is an excellent Bond and Craig kills him on screen. FRWL a better film than DN, TWWTGG is not a good Bond movie, and SF is better than QOS.



  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,330
    chrisisall wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    The Living Daylights isn't as good as everyone says it is.
    Of course not; it's much better. :)) :)) :))

    Okay, it might be that you're correct here, but when I watch it, it glues me to the screen like no other Bond movie. To me, it's magic despite the pedestrian film direction.

    I don't dislike or hate the movie, but everyone says it's this modern marvel that refreshed Bond for the 80's when it's just a typical Bond film. It has some great moments but the bad moments weigh it down and spoil it for me. It's villains are terrible stock Moore era villains. The humor is stupid. The cello case sled scene is worse than California Girls in AVTAK. It a decent flick but not a top Fiver.
  • Sammm04Sammm04
    Posts: 479
    Dalton Is the Worst Bond.
    Moore is the Best Bond.
    QOS is the worst Bourne, sorry Bond Film.
    Bond Films have changed too much.

    Maybe the first three would be accepted by some not on this forum, but on this community those are probably very controversial opinions.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    edited August 2013 Posts: 2,483
    1. DAF is a classic Bond picture.
    2. GF is vastly overrated.
    3. LTK is a top four Bond entry.
    4. Newman's SF score is the best Bond score since GE.
    5. Professor Joe is a great character.
    6. Carley Simon's title track is somewhat overrated.
    7. Sheena Easton's title track is somewhat underrated.
    8. Gun's PTS is the best in series history.
    9. Elliot Carver is the best Bond villain in series history.
    10. Outside of DAD, OP is the lousiest official Bond flick ever made.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited August 2013 Posts: 12,837
    1) Brosnan was a great James Bond.

    2) LTK is not only better than TLD but my favourite film of the series.

    3) YOLT is my favourite Connery film.

    4) Lazenby did a good job in OHMSS and was not only the right choice but also better than Connery would've been at that time.

    5) TWINE is a great film.

    6) NSNA is a very good send off for Connery and is better than quite a few of the EON films.

    7) The Lotus is the best Bond car, cooler than the DB5.

    8) Naomie Harris was wooden in SF and Sam Bond was a much better Moneypenny.

    9) CR and FRWL aren't as great as everyone says.

    10) DN is one of the weaker Bond films.

    11) OHMSS has a brilliant soundtrack but it's not Barry's best.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    Sammm04 wrote:
    Dalton Is the Worst Bond.
    Moore is the Best Bond.
    QOS is the worst Bourne, sorry Bond Film.
    Bond Films have changed too much.

    Maybe the first three would be accepted by some not on this forum, but on this community those are probably very controversial opinions.

    Disagree with your views on Dalton and QOS. Sir Rog has his fair share of supporters and that's not controversial. Bond films though have to change with the times, sometimes OTT fantasy is in fashion, right now that level of frivolity isn't. These things are cyclical, I'm sure one day that Moore-like films such as we got in Brosnan's era will reappear.
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
    Posts: 2,400
    1: Licence To Kill is a top five Bond. #4 for me on my list.
    2: LTK also has the best ending of any Bond film ever, winking fish statue aside.
    3: GoldenEye has a great score with the exception of two or three pieces.
    4: Hugo Drax is a terrible villain.
    5: Gray's Blofeld is the worst villain in the entire series history.
    6: Koskov was a great villain, very enjoyable and memorable.
    7: Brosnan is, by a mile, the worst part of GoldenEye.
    8: Lazenby is better than Connery overall, though Connery's best performance is probably on par or better than Lazenby's.
    9: Goldfinger is colossally overrated.
    10: The tanker chase in LTK is the best action sequence in the entire series.

    I'll leave it at ten for now.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    edited August 2013 Posts: 6,396
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    What opinions on Bond movies do you have that are unusual, not mainstream here, or just plain off the wall?

    Here are mine:

    DN is better than FRWL.
    OHMSS is NOT in my top five Bond movies.
    DAD is watchable if I'm in the proper mood.
    I favour Brosnan over Craig.
    SF is not nearly as good as CR & QOS.
    TMWTGG is a good movie, and JW is funny in it.
    TSWLM is NOT Moore's best Bond film.

    Tell us yours & be open to criticism!

    Good idea Chris! Just off my head without too much forethought-

    1. LTK is a top 5 Bond entry.
    2. Hugo Drax is not a great villain, and even worse than Gustav Graves.
    3. GF is the still the greatest Bond film to date (many still agree yes, but it seems fashionable to disagree nowadays in favor of FRWL and other entries).
    4. GE is not Brosnan's best acting performance.
    5. OHMSS is not a top 5 Bond film and Lazenby is highly overrated.
    6. Brosnan is still better than Lazenby.
    7. David Arnold is a solid composer who should be invited to return.
    8. J.W Pepper is a great character.
    9. Severine is a former sex slave with a mind of her own.
    10. QOS is a much better film than the likes of DAD, MR, TWINE, DAF, and TMWTGG, and has it's merits.

    Agreed about TLD, disagree that Brosnan is an excellent Bond and Craig kills him on screen. FRWL a better film than DN, TWWTGG is not a good Bond movie, and SF is better than QOS.

    You couldn't resist getting number 9 in there could you SirHenry. ;-)

    Wow. Already there are some fascinating points, made by the contributors so far, up for debate.

    Really good topic this. I'll have a think about it and come back with mine.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited August 2013 Posts: 3,494
    @Willy- no, I could not. Nor could I resist throwing up in my mouth at the thought that the GE soundtrack is better than every single Arnold effort. Any of his or anyone else's. Not coming back to this thread as a result.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,529
    Sorry guys.
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