RogueAgent said:RIP Henry Hill.
One of my all time favourite films. Goodfellas really is a Scorsese classic!
SaintMark said:I do not have that need to celebrate a former criminal. Having seen Goodfellas which is in my book an overrated movie I cannot escaped the unlikable character he was, so the world lost another criminal, not a big loss imho.
myworldisenough said:
SaintMark said:I do not have that need to celebrate a former criminal. Having seen Goodfellas which is in my book an overrated movie I cannot escaped the unlikable character he was, so the world lost another criminal, not a big loss imho.
The only thing about your comment I can agree with is that he was a criminal. Goodfellas is one of my most favourite movies and having seen reviews over the years so many fans and critics alike agree. Henry Hill was a very likable character, that's why he remained such a celebrity for all those years and why a book and movie was made about his life.
Of course I cannot condone many of the things he did but his story is never the less facinating and learning about the man and his background and subsequent post criminal life, you would then find him not just 'another criminal'
SirHenryLeeChaChing said:One thing Henry Hill was not, by criminal standards, would be a "stand-up guy". He was a rat who turned in his associates to avoid being killed by them. To the government, of course, a different story.
OHMSS69 said:
SirHenryLeeChaChing said:One thing Henry Hill was not, by criminal standards, would be a "stand-up guy". He was a rat who turned in his associates to avoid being killed by them. To the government, of course, a different story.
The Mafia (and most criminal organizations ) are made up of "rats' nowadays. There is no honor among thieves anymore. Faced with mammoth prison sentences these bastards immediately turn witness. Gone are the days of Luciano, Capone, Costello. The 1920's-1960's.
SirHenryLeeChaChing said:
OHMSS69 said:
SirHenryLeeChaChing said:One thing Henry Hill was not, by criminal standards, would be a "stand-up guy". He was a rat who turned in his associates to avoid being killed by them. To the government, of course, a different story.
The Mafia (and most criminal organizations ) are made up of "rats' nowadays. There is no honor among thieves anymore. Faced with mammoth prison sentences these bastards immediately turn witness. Gone are the days of Luciano, Capone, Costello. The 1920's-1960's.
So true, so very true. There is no more honor in the "honored society".
A few of my closest friends in school were transplanted Italians from South Philly, and one of my best ones was the son of a well connected man. He could have been "made" but he was at least for sure an associate and a neighborhood guy doing very well for himself. I remember one time I couldn't go over there because the father had the then boss of Philly, Angelo Bruno, and (wait for it O'Brady) Frank Sinatra among his dinner guests. I didn't find out about who was there until the next day. Normally I was always very welcomed there by his father and the whole family and spent so much time there that I was basically "Tom Hagen" being the blond haired, blue eyed German descended kid I was, but this night must have contained some sort of serious discussion for the father to insist that even his kids needed to make plans away from home until a certain time. Anyway, I knew a lot of the mob slang and attitude and actually met Mr. Bruno very briefly in passing. He appeared to be just how law enforcement has described him, a gentleman, friendly but very low key, and if you didn't know who and what he was like I didn't at the time, you'd just think he was an ordinary elderly Italian guy.
RICO and draconian jail sentences are among the things that made many of these guys start squealing, but there is much more to it than just that. All of it became "me" instead of "we".
Creasy47 said:@SirHenryLeeChaChing, that's an insanely cool story. Thank you for sharing.
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