Master_Dahark said:You stupid asshole, go play out in traffic
Master_Dahark said:I did both
Anyway, back to Die Another Day
CraigMooreOHMSS said:My idea for Die Another Day essentially results in the removal of the Invisible Car, the bad CGI for the most part, and most importantly removing the idea of Graves using a satellite as a weapon - something I'm sure most people agree is a tired idea. Most other elements remain, including the majority of the locations.
CaptainArthurs said:My least favourite entry is Quantum of Solace. I'm not sure what to change as it was a bungled sequel to Casino Royale and I thought it was awful. I think I would have made a totally different film.
I agree that the Die Another Day finale should have taken place in that wonderful ice palace.
OHMSS69 said:
CaptainArthurs said:My least favourite entry is Quantum of Solace. I'm not sure what to change as it was a bungled sequel to Casino Royale and I thought it was awful. I think I would have made a totally different film.
I agree that the Die Another Day finale should have taken place in that wonderful ice palace.
I know we have been trying to improve on DAD the film we all "love to hate", but by all means don't be shy. Feel free to share how you would have done QoS.
I have a few ideas of my own.... :-0
CraigMooreOHMSS said:My idea for Die Another Day essentially results in the removal of the Invisible Car, the bad CGI for the most part, and most importantly removing the idea of Graves using a satellite as a weapon - something I'm sure most people agree is a tired idea. Most other elements remain, including the majority of the locations.
Okay. So a majority of the plot remains intact. Bond, while on a mission to assassinate high ranking Colonel Tan Sun Moon in North Korea, is double crossed, captured and tortured for 18 months. He is then set free in a trade between the West and the Koreans, a trade of Bond for Moon's henchman, Zao. M denounces Bond's ability to work under the assumption that he cracked under torture.
Bond, in an attempt to find the person who set him up, escapes MI6 custody in Hong Kong and tracks Zao to Cuba. There, he crosses paths with NSA agent Jinx Johnson, and the two become lovers. Bond infiltrates a Cuban gene therapy clinic, and finds a recovering Zao - disfigured from their earlier encounter in Korea. The two fight while Jinx also appears at the scene, and Zao is able to flee in a helicopter. Bond searches the Clinic's computer records and finds that Zao's reconstruction surgery was paid for by British millionaire Gustav Graves, prompting Bond to return to London.
Revealing himself to Graves at his fencing club, Bond challenges him to a duel, which escalates into a full blown sword fight through the club. Bond wins the battle, and Graves invites him to attend the opening of his new Ice Palace hotel in Iceland in return. Bond also makes contact with Graves' secretary, Miranda Frost, who seems immune to his charms.
Bond meets M in the underground, and she is more than impressed with his actions, but reveals to Bond that Graves is formerly Tan Sun Moon and has defected to the West, promising to reveal North Korea's nuclear programme plans in exchange for safety, and has requested Bond be the man to ensure that safety. M instructs Bond to go the Ice Palace opening and protect Moon from any danger he might face. Bond however, smells a trap, but M instructs him to follow orders.
Bond goes to Iceland, where he faces Graves for the first time knowing his true identity. Jinx also shows up, but Bond is hesistant to trust her again after her actions in Cuba. After Graves speech at the Hotel launch party, Bond snoops around the palace, and causes an intruder alert. He is saved by Frost, who reveals herself to be an MI6 undercover agent, and tells him he's right to be suspicious of Graves. That night, the two sleep together. Meanwhile, Zao also turns up, and captures Jinx when he finds her snooping around Gustav's office quarters.
Bond leaves Miranda, and goes to find Jinx, intent on discovering Graves plan. He rescues her and kills Graves' henchmen. Bond confronts Graves in his living quarters, where Graves reveals that the whole defection was faked to draw Bond to Iceland, in order to get revenge for disfiguring him. He also tells Bond that he and a group of rogue generals have seized control of several North Korean nuclear missiles and intend on using them on the West, and unite all of Korea. Frost arrives, and reveals herself to be the imposter who sold Bond out during his time in Korea. Jinx becomes trapped in the palace hotel rooms. Bond is about to be killed by Zao, but uses his EMP ring to escape. Zao pursues Bond across the ice in the Jaguar vs. Aston chase, while Graves and Frost escape the palace and rig it to explode. Bond gets the upper hand on Zao, and eventually kills him by dropping a large block of ice on his Jaguar using a mine from his Aston Martin. Bond saves Jinx again, and they flee the collapsing palace.
Graves flees back to a North Korean airbase, where he and his group of rogue generals have seized power. Bond and Jinx secretly infiltrate the base, and engage Graves and his men before the missiles can be launched. Jinx takes on Miranda in a sword fight, while Bond ducks it out with Graves. American and British forces commanded by M and Damien Falco, obtain authority to launch a missile strike against the base. Jinx kills Miranda, and Bond takes out Graves, and the two escape in a helicopter while the missile destroys the base.
The end.
CraigMooreOHMSS said:My idea for Die Another Day essentially results in the removal of the Invisible Car, the bad CGI for the most part, and most importantly removing the idea of Graves using a satellite as a weapon - something I'm sure most people agree is a tired idea. Most other elements remain, including the majority of the locations.
Okay. So a majority of the plot remains intact. Bond, while on a mission to assassinate high ranking Colonel Tan Sun Moon in North Korea, is double crossed, captured and tortured for 18 months. He is then set free in a trade between the West and the Koreans, a trade of Bond for Moon's henchman, Zao. M denounces Bond's ability to work under the assumption that he cracked under torture.
Bond, in an attempt to find the person who set him up, escapes MI6 custody in Hong Kong and tracks Zao to Cuba. There, he crosses paths with NSA agent Jinx Johnson, and the two become lovers. Bond infiltrates a Cuban gene therapy clinic, and finds a recovering Zao - disfigured from their earlier encounter in Korea. The two fight while Jinx also appears at the scene, and Zao is able to flee in a helicopter. Bond searches the Clinic's computer records and finds that Zao's reconstruction surgery was paid for by British millionaire Gustav Graves, prompting Bond to return to London.
Revealing himself to Graves at his fencing club, Bond challenges him to a duel, which escalates into a full blown sword fight through the club. Bond wins the battle, and Graves invites him to attend the opening of his new Ice Palace hotel in Iceland in return. Bond also makes contact with Graves' secretary, Miranda Frost, who seems immune to his charms.
Bond meets M in the underground, and she is more than impressed with his actions, but reveals to Bond that Graves is formerly Tan Sun Moon and has defected to the West, promising to reveal North Korea's nuclear programme plans in exchange for safety, and has requested Bond be the man to ensure that safety. M instructs Bond to go the Ice Palace opening and protect Moon from any danger he might face. Bond however, smells a trap, but M instructs him to follow orders.
Bond goes to Iceland, where he faces Graves for the first time knowing his true identity. Jinx also shows up, but Bond is hesistant to trust her again after her actions in Cuba. After Graves speech at the Hotel launch party, Bond snoops around the palace, and causes an intruder alert. He is saved by Frost, who reveals herself to be an MI6 undercover agent, and tells him he's right to be suspicious of Graves. That night, the two sleep together. Meanwhile, Zao also turns up, and captures Jinx when he finds her snooping around Gustav's office quarters.
Bond leaves Miranda, and goes to find Jinx, intent on discovering Graves plan. He rescues her and kills Graves' henchmen. Bond confronts Graves in his living quarters, where Graves reveals that the whole defection was faked to draw Bond to Iceland, in order to get revenge for disfiguring him. He also tells Bond that he and a group of rogue generals have seized control of several North Korean nuclear missiles and intend on using them on the West, and unite all of Korea. Frost arrives, and reveals herself to be the imposter who sold Bond out during his time in Korea. Jinx becomes trapped in the palace hotel rooms. Bond is about to be killed by Zao, but uses his EMP ring to escape. Zao pursues Bond across the ice in the Jaguar vs. Aston chase, while Graves and Frost escape the palace and rig it to explode. Bond gets the upper hand on Zao, and eventually kills him by dropping a large block of ice on his Jaguar using a mine from his Aston Martin. Bond saves Jinx again, and they flee the collapsing palace.
Graves flees back to a North Korean airbase, where he and his group of rogue generals have seized power. Bond and Jinx secretly infiltrate the base, and engage Graves and his men before the missiles can be launched. Jinx takes on Miranda in a sword fight, while Bond ducks it out with Graves. American and British forces commanded by M and Damien Falco, obtain authority to launch a missile strike against the base. Jinx kills Miranda, and Bond takes out Graves, and the two escape in a helicopter while the missile destroys the base.
The end.
CraigMooreOHMSS said:@X3MSonicX @Volante Cheers guys. It's always something I've thought about, but I've never actually written it down.
nobodydoesitbetter said:i'm going to go with what is probably the worst sequence ever in a James Bond film. I would remove the "surfing cgi wave" in DAD. I still don't understand how the producers could have let that scene on the screen. In the directors commentary for DAD Lee Tamahori admits that was his idea and it wasn't in the original screenplay. They should have stopped him!
M_Balje said:
At 00.31 seconds i jump to 0.42. 00.31-00.42 complete removed.
Then after the in my opnion but dificult to cut talk between 1.17-1.30 i cut from 1.30 til the moment of Miranda 1.30-1.44. (So Miranda Frost wil start then on 01.30). After 1.46 i wil jump to 2.09 when she show his room. The 3 seconds after this stay. The music wil be difrent or atleast not that way of camera move. Keep the joke about the martini and the ice. After she said James i wil make a cut again and again wil start with Frost (3.03). No piguin or for the view again line and what Bond said. Then 3.29-7.33 nothing. From 7.33-7.37 removed, better known as the Matrix cut. From 7.56-8.18 removed, in those there is one moment with first glimp of the laser i keep that but at after Zoa then only line to Jinx and then go to 007 (8.20). Bond said ''Jinx'' (9.33) what 1-2 seconds should be removed too.
If you ask me the whole laser thing should be removed, there is way to do this and that is after Graves busted Jinx (7.10), Graves take her to the ice palace (what happend later in the movie.) This means that Bond under the ice should not end at Jinx but should end somewhere ele's. Funny or not official after Bond saved Jinx. Bond tell Graves Bond knowns Graves is Moon. With removing a litle bit of Bond enter the Laser place (It look like he stil looking) and also remove Jinx enter the door it wil look like Jinx already been there. The talking contune before Bond saved him self with ring. The only thing Jinx did after Bond saved her is go back to the ice palace, so why bother about the laser fight if you can do or there bring Jinx there wil one litle cut.
On this way the movie be no longer 132 minutes (127 minutes pall time) but 127/122 if you already removed this.
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