JWESTBROOK said:
Getafix said:How can GE be the 'blueprint' at film 18 or whatever it is...?
Getafix said:How can GE be the 'blueprint' at film 18 or whatever it is...?
BAIN123 said:Good review @actonsteve. Out of interest do you prefer the book or the film?
Do you think Ian Fleming would have liked GF had he lived to see it?
00Beast said:
Getafix said:How can GE be the 'blueprint' at film 18 or whatever it is...?
17 in fact, but still, it just has everything going for it. Pierce Brosnan, incredible action, an epic masterpiece soundtrack, outstanding villains, varied locations, gorgeous women, and the best pace in all of the series. Perhaps I should do my own review of GE!
actonsteve said:
00Beast said:
Getafix said:How can GE be the 'blueprint' at film 18 or whatever it is...?
17 in fact, but still, it just has everything going for it. Pierce Brosnan, incredible action, an epic masterpiece soundtrack, outstanding villains, varied locations, gorgeous women, and the best pace in all of the series. Perhaps I should do my own review of GE!
But thats not whats inferred by blueprint. Blueprint means the genesis or original plans of a format. Therefore it cannot be at the end of the series only the beginning.
00Beast said:
Getafix said:How can GE be the 'blueprint' at film 18 or whatever it is...?
17 in fact, but still, it just has everything going for it. Pierce Brosnan, incredible action, an epic masterpiece soundtrack, outstanding villains, varied locations, gorgeous women, and the best pace in all of the series. Perhaps I should do my own review of GE!
actonsteve said:
BAIN123 said:Good review @actonsteve. Out of interest do you prefer the book or the film?
Do you think Ian Fleming would have liked GF had he lived to see it?
The book has got more gorgeous detail. There is a wonderful bit at the beginning where he describes eating "stone crabs and butter" in Miami. I dare anyones mouth to stop watering after reading that.
Also it puts more flesh on the characters then the film ever does. We find out Goldfingers history, and the same with Pussy Galore. Why she is a criminal and more about her life.
I have never understood why Bond fans never read the books. You can get so much out of them.
Signed_By_RogerMoore said:
00Beast said:
Getafix said:How can GE be the 'blueprint' at film 18 or whatever it is...?
17 in fact, but still, it just has everything going for it. Pierce Brosnan, incredible action, an epic masterpiece soundtrack, outstanding villains, varied locations, gorgeous women, and the best pace in all of the series. Perhaps I should do my own review of GE!
I've always though of GE as substandard, though the best brosnan and best 'modern bond'. Hated the soundtrack with a passion...didn't know whether i was watching a Bond film or in a dodgy amsterdam disco in the 1990's. Create a thread for people to write reviews on there fave...title it "Why I Love..."
BAIN123 said:
I have read the book. I remember the opening where Bond's in the airport looking down at his hands and coming to terms with the fact he had killed a man the day before. I've seen the film far more times though.
I'm asking YOU what you think?
00Beast said:
actonsteve said:
00Beast said:
Getafix said:How can GE be the 'blueprint' at film 18 or whatever it is...?
17 in fact, but still, it just has everything going for it. Pierce Brosnan, incredible action, an epic masterpiece soundtrack, outstanding villains, varied locations, gorgeous women, and the best pace in all of the series. Perhaps I should do my own review of GE!
But thats not whats inferred by blueprint. Blueprint means the genesis or original plans of a format. Therefore it cannot be at the end of the series only the beginning.
Well yes, that's a valid argument. I thought you were using the term as I've heard it before, meaning that all Bond movies should be judged by this one.
actonsteve said:
BAIN123 said:
And Goldfinger gives the cat to Oddjob to eat. Little details like that make it more interesting then the film.
...or make you cringe at the suggested racism ;)
All of Fleming's books are wonderfully descriptive. Thats the beauty of his writing.
actonsteve said:What interests me about the sixties films is how much of the books are in the films. Apart from YOLT I would say quite abit.
actonsteve said:What interests me about the sixties films is how much of the books are in the films. Apart from YOLT I would say quite abit.
BAIN123 said:
...or make you cringe at the suggested racism ;)
All of Fleming's books are wonderfully descriptive. Thats the beauty of his writing.
actonsteve said:
BAIN123 said:
...or make you cringe at the suggested racism ;)
All of Fleming's books are wonderfully descriptive. Thats the beauty of his writing.
[b]Then it might not be a good idea to judge it by 2012 values.[/b] The same thing could be thrown at Edgar Rice Burroughs or Arthur Conan Doyle. They are of their time.
BAIN123 said:
I try not to but its still quite difficult not to cringe a bit sometimes. Especially during parts of LALD.
actonsteve said:
BAIN123 said:
I try not to but its still quite difficult not to cringe a bit sometimes. Especially during parts of LALD.
Cant argue with that. Fleming was abit of an elitist and Connery described him as "a terrible snob"
But the characters seem more alive in the books then the film.
BAIN123 said:
actonsteve said:
BAIN123 said:
I try not to but its still quite difficult not to cringe a bit sometimes. Especially during parts of LALD.
Cant argue with that. Fleming was abit of an elitist and Connery described him as "a terrible snob"
But the characters seem more alive in the books then the film.
To tell the truth Fleming doesn't sound like the nicest of chaps. I remember hearing that Noel Coward viewed him as a mere "poser". Coward of course saw himself as the genuine article.
BAIN123 said:[
In regard to which books I've read, I've read most at least once except TSWLM and the short stories. I've heard Spy isn't one of his best though?
actonsteve said:
BAIN123 said:[
In regard to which books I've read, I've read most at least once except TSWLM and the short stories. I've heard Spy isn't one of his best though?
Its told through the Bond girls point of view and her backstory takes up the first third. But once Bond appears things pick up and I would say it is one of Flemings underrated books.
Dont expect any underwater cars though...
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