Everything or Nothing appreciation

BondWillReturn

So, as far as I could tell there's no thread yet where you can praise this lovely game from '04.

I was at my mum's this weekend, and decided to plug in the old GameCube again to play some of the older Bond games. The memory card is fried, so I couldn't save. I figured I'd just play the first few levels, and popped in Everything or Nothing.

This night I played through the whole game: from 'Ground Zero' to 'Everything or Nothing.' It must have taken me a year or so to finish the game when I played it back in 2004/2005, so I guess my gaming got better. But I loved every second of it again.

The story is way over-the-top, but it's a game, so I'll forgive it that. I love some of the levels, that give a great classic Bond feeling (The entire New Orleans) and really love the second set of Peru levels, where you need to win a race, and duke it out in hand-to-hand, as well as driving the daytona over rooftops (something that would fit perfectly in a Daniel Craig film as well). Overal, many happy memories, and I'm glad to see the game(play, not the graphic unfortunatly) still holds up.

I would really like to maybe adapt the story of the game (or part of it) in a fan fiction starrin Daniel Craig, tailored to his Bond, but I don't think I'll have the time :(

So, without further ado: what do you have to say about this awesome game? What cool memories do you have about it?

X3MSonicX

A Few Words: AWESOME GAME!!! The Best Bond After Nightfire for PS2.

i've Remembered having a LOT of difficulty on the Platinum Challenge for the last mission 'Everything Or Nothing', and also for 'An Old Friend'. Those were hard, but worths the play. I really WISH it was also a Bond Movie. Brosnan could have gone away with very great style.

thelivingroyale

I loved this game. The voice acting is great, there's lots of variation in the action, love it. The thing I loved most was fighting Jaws. This and Nightfire should've been films.

X3MSonicX

thelivingroyale said:
I loved this game. The voice acting is great, there's lots of variation in the action, love it. The thing I loved most was fighting Jaws. This and Nightfire should've been films.

If they were, no wonder they could have been the Best 007 movies ever made. Together with Blood Stone.

BondWillReturn

I wonder what an EON movie would be like. I mean: yes, it's got great locations, some great plotpoints (I love that they're using old Cold War missiles to launch the new weapon), and some great action pieces (jumping of the cliff to save Serena), but some of it is more over the top than DAD (Invisible car, invisible Bond, invisible enemies, Platininum tanks taking over the Red Square, the giant statue of Diavolo, the shiny metal platform rising out of the sea in Egypt).

So, how do you imagine an EON movie? The same as the game, or with some changes?

thelivingroyale

BondWillReturn said:
I wonder what an EON movie would be like. I mean: yes, it's got great locations, some great plotpoints (I love that they're using old Cold War missiles to launch the new weapon), and some great action pieces (jumping of the cliff to save Serena), but some of it is more over the top than DAD (Invisible car, invisible Bond, invisible enemies, Platininum tanks taking over the Red Square, the giant statue of Diavolo, the shiny metal platform rising out of the sea in Egypt).

So, how do you imagine an EON movie? The same as the game, or with some changes?

Take out the final bit in Egypt, have it end in a normal helicopter fight, take out the Diavolo statue and take out anything invisible, then I think it could work.

DoubleOhhSeven

Pretty good game but overrated IMO. Goldeneye 64 and Nightfire were better.

BondWillReturn

thelivingroyale said:

So, how do you imagine an EON movie? The same as the game, or with some changes?

Take out the final bit in Egypt, have it end in a normal helicopter fight, take out the Diavolo statue and take out anything invisible, then I think it could work.

Yeah, I believe I'm with you on this. Maybe take out 'Ground Zero' as well, 'cause it doesn't really add to the story.

I'd love the see it start with Bond blowing up the facility and jumping of the edge, he lands on the roof, sees the doctor getting loaded on a train, and goes after the train on a stolen dirtbike.... follow the story all the way to Diavolo saying 'Everything or Nothing' and then cutting to the credits.

Would we keep the American Pie actress and the supermodel? Or do we want actresses of more 'substance' for the movie? Same question could be asked for Jaws (keep him, or have another original henchman, have Richard Kiel play him, or some younger actor), and Diavolo (I think Willem Dafoe is as good as any).

Hope I'm not going off-topic in my own topic, but I love to see what other Bond fans think of this.

007RogerMoore

EON would and should have been a great fifth movie for Brosnan. It would perhaps remind us of DAD, atleast the plot did.

X3MSonicX

007RogerMoore said:
EON would and should have been a great fifth movie for Brosnan. It would perhaps remind us of DAD, atleast the plot did.

but with a better villain, btw lol

thelivingroyale

BondWillReturn said:

thelivingroyale said:
Take out the final bit in Egypt, have it end in a normal helicopter fight, take out the Diavolo statue and take out anything invisible, then I think it could work.

Yeah, I believe I'm with you on this. Maybe take out 'Ground Zero' as well, 'cause it doesn't really add to the story.

I'd love the see it start with Bond blowing up the facility and jumping of the edge, he lands on the roof, sees the doctor getting loaded on a train, and goes after the train on a stolen dirtbike.... follow the story all the way to Diavolo saying 'Everything or Nothing' and then cutting to the credits.

Would we keep the American Pie actress and the supermodel? Or do we want actresses of more 'substance' for the movie? Same question could be asked for Jaws (keep him, or have another original henchman, have Richard Kiel play him, or some younger actor), and Diavolo (I think Willem Dafoe is as good as any).

Hope I'm not going off-topic in my own topic, but I love to see what other Bond fans think of this.

I think Ground Zero can be kept, plenty of the PTS in the series don't add to the story. Maybe replace the chick of American Pie.

Jaws, it's tricky. I don't think anybody but Richard Kiel could play him but he's too old. Maybe they'd have to replace Jaws with a new henchman.

Dafoe could definetly still play Diavolo though.

EON is perhaps the 2nd best bond game (next to goldeneye)
it has it all: great villians- Dafoe was born to play a bond villian, brosnan being more serious- there wasnt too many quips as DAD had, the hot chick from American pie was a bond girl and probarly more likeable than Christmas Jones and Jinx, an awesome sountrack from the guy who composed for 24. not to mention some classic Brosnan/Q banter that never gets old

its a great tragedy this wasnt made into a movie

00Beast

Eh...Everything or Nothing is okay. I didn't like the third person stuff though, I thought that it was poorly executed. Bond games like Blood Stone get third person right, with smooth and easy movements. Also, the enemy AI in EON gets extremely aggrivating, especially when trying to take cover, and they just run right up to you and shoot you dead before you can even have the chance to return fire or punch them down. Also, the car chase levels were horrendous, I just won't even go into that. Don't get me wrong, it was all right, certainly not terrible, but I prefer Bond games like Nightfire, Blood Stone, Quantum of Solace, and From Russia with Love.

thelivingroyale

00Beast said:
Eh...Everything or Nothing is okay. I didn't like the third person stuff though, I thought that it was poorly executed. Bond games like Blood Stone get third person right, with smooth and easy movements. Also, the enemy AI in EON gets extremely aggrivating, especially when trying to take cover, and they just run right up to you and shoot you dead before you can even have the chance to return fire or punch them down. Also, the car chase levels were horrendous, I just won't even go into that. Don't get me wrong, it was all right, certainly not terrible, but I prefer Bond games like Nightfire, Blood Stone, Quantum of Solace, and From Russia with Love.

I thought they were the highlight of the game. Maybe not as good as Nightfires but still great, I love the one where you chase the train.

X3MSonicX

Best car chase was the one you need to escape with the Rally car.

00Beast

thelivingroyale said:

00Beast said:
Eh...Everything or Nothing is okay. I didn't like the third person stuff though, I thought that it was poorly executed. Bond games like Blood Stone get third person right, with smooth and easy movements. Also, the enemy AI in EON gets extremely aggrivating, especially when trying to take cover, and they just run right up to you and shoot you dead before you can even have the chance to return fire or punch them down. Also, the car chase levels were horrendous, I just won't even go into that. Don't get me wrong, it was all right, certainly not terrible, but I prefer Bond games like Nightfire, Blood Stone, Quantum of Solace, and From Russia with Love.

I thought they were the highlight of the game. Maybe not as good as Nightfires but still great, I love the one where you chase the train.

That was the one exception, it was all right. All others I felt were a little sloppy and hard to handle, especially the ones with the Vanquish in New Orleans.

X3MSonicX

BTW, Great thing about New Orleans is the Nightfire remindescence with the Phoenix building.

00Beast

X3MSonicX said:
BTW, Great thing about New Orleans is the Nightfire remindescence with the Phoenix building.

Oh yes, if only that existed in real life! I'd go down to Orleans just to see that awesome building!

X3MSonicX

00Beast said:

X3MSonicX said:
BTW, Great thing about New Orleans is the Nightfire remindescence with the Phoenix building.

Oh yes, if only that existed in real life! I'd go down to Orleans just to see that awesome building!

Me too! would be a realized dream.

00Beast

X3MSonicX said:

00Beast said:

X3MSonicX said:
BTW, Great thing about New Orleans is the Nightfire remindescence with the Phoenix building.

Oh yes, if only that existed in real life! I'd go down to Orleans just to see that awesome building!

Me too! would be a realized dream.

Complete with a tour of the night shift and a soothing night-time leap off the roof with a parachute!

X3MSonicX

00Beast said:

X3MSonicX said:

00Beast said:

X3MSonicX said:
BTW, Great thing about New Orleans is the Nightfire remindescence with the Phoenix building.

Oh yes, if only that existed in real life! I'd go down to Orleans just to see that awesome building!

Me too! would be a realized dream.

Complete with a tour of the night shift and a soothing night-time leap off the roof with a parachute!

Lmao! imagine if the Phoenix Building in New Orleans were the same from Nightfire. Even more epicness.

Agent007391

How, then, would the building have gotten from Tokyo to New Orleans?

X3MSonicX

Agent007391 said:
How, then, would the building have gotten from Tokyo to New Orleans?

lol, it was just a supposition. The buildings could all look by the same, too ;)

00Beast

X3MSonicX said:

Agent007391 said:
How, then, would the building have gotten from Tokyo to New Orleans?

lol, it was just a supposition. The buildings could all look by the same, too ;)

It's Nightfire. Just don't question it! It does what it wants to!

Agent007391

00Beast said:

X3MSonicX said:

Agent007391 said:
How, then, would the building have gotten from Tokyo to New Orleans?

lol, it was just a supposition. The buildings could all look by the same, too ;)

It's Nightfire. Just don't question it! It does what it wants to!

I question all, as nothing should just be taken at face value.

DouglasQuaid

This was and still is a great game. Should have been a film. Only thing I would do is make the freefall scene more realistic, keep the girl from American Pie but flesh out her character and have a different actor and character for the henchman instead of Jaws. Oh, and have Moneypenny appear in the film.

00Beast

You know, I have recently been replaying through this game more and more, and I am really enjoying this relapse into this great game! I had forgotten how enticing it was, with the terrific hand-to-hand combat system and the addicting cover/shooting set-up. I also really love how, similiarly to Blood Stone, there are so many levels to blast through, unlike the other 007 games where you are limited to playing the same levels again and again. Although Nightfire out-did Everything or Nothing in my opinion, I still think that EA games got it right in 2004! The old saying still stands, they don't make 'em like they used to!

OnlyManWhoCan

Everything or Nothing is, so far, the best 'Bond game' ever made. Goldeneye 007 is the best 'game-game' by far, but doesn't feature all the elements that make Bond Bond. Seeing him in 3rd person really helped, and the combination of shooting and fighting was well done. If he had visited a casino with a card mini game it would have had everything

thamesider

Second everything in the previous two comments. This is just gaming perfection. The effort in this one shows more than in any other - the full "name" cast, the variety of levels, the sensible and intriguing plot, the graphics, the music, the gadgets...

Just superb. It feels instinctively like a Bond product should, on whatever medium - and moreover, that it couldn't be anything but a Bond game. Compare to BloodStone, which while good, could have been replaced by any non-licence IP with practically no difference.

Considering this was Brosnan's final outing as 007, he really went out on a high. Now, if only I can beat the co-op levels having taught myself to use both controllers with only one hand each...

Murdock

Coolest Game artwork ever!

BondWillReturn

Official? Or did you make this?

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