Prometheus (2012)

j7wild

Official Trailer released today!!

Prometheus 480p.mov (20.3 MB) http://www.multiupload.com/EFE6R3OGOP
Prometheus 720p.mov (46.87 MB) http://www.multiupload.com/7SX819CRCY
Prometheus 1080p.mov (81.01 MB) http://www.multiupload.com/IZEG9MBZ65

Zekidk

This is the prequel to Alien, right?

j7wild

Zekidk said:
This is the prequel to Alien, right?

yes!

shadowonthesun

No, it's not a prequel. It's more of a sidequel. It's sent in the ALIEN universe, but it's quite separate from the ALIEN films.

j7wild

it's the Alien ship from ALIEN and there is also the Space Jockey and it's set decades before the events of ALIEN, how can it not be a Prequel?

tqb

wrong forum?

shadowonthesun

j7wild said:
it's the Alien ship from ALIEN and there is also the Space Jockey and it's set decades before the events of ALIEN, how can it not be a Prequel?

Because it has nothing to do with the aliens seen in ALIEN. PROMETHUS will delve into their origins a little, but the events of the film have no bearing on the events of the ALIEN quadrilogy. It's set in the same universe, but the aliens themselves are only a very small part of the story.

Univex

Well, if it´s a sidequel because it´s a different story set in the same universe AND it happens before the events in Alien, featuring some of the same iconography and actually explaining the origins of the crashed vessel in said film, can we consider it a PRESIDEQUEL then?

PS: Pointless argument there guys. Don´t you think?

AgentJamesBond007

Seems like a cool movie, are you gonna see it @j7wild?

shadowonthesun

I don't think it will explain how the ship in ALIEN came to be stranded. It's pretty obvious what happened - a xenomorph got loose and attacked the crew. That doesn't really need any explanation. Sure, the PROMETHEUS trailer shows a reconstruction of the cockpit set from ALIEN, but since the ship was run by the space jockeys, that's probably what all their spaceship cockpits look like.

PROMETHEUS will apparently have more to do with the space jockeys and who they actually were. There has been the suggestion that they were "gods", creatures that populated the universe. Based on some of the comments from the crew of the film, the xenomorphs will get something of an origin story - they may have been purpose-bred as biological weapons, or used by the space jockeys to destroy all life on a planet they wanted to terraform (the xenomorph embryo absorbs the DNA of the host, which gives it a similar physiology; this would enable it to rapidly adapt to local environmental conditions).

I don't think it would really be appropriate for PROMETHEUS to be inherently tied into ALIEN. For one, it would dictate too much of the story in advance. And secondly, the themes of PROMETHEUS appear to be very different to those of ALIEN. The whole "the search for our beginning could lead to our end" tagline suggests metaphysical themes (and is also similar to CERN's experiments in finding the Higgs-Boson particle), so PROMETHEUS could turn out to be part-ALIEN and part-BLADE RUNNER. It's written by Damon Lindelof, who is best known for his work on "Lost", and despite my ongoing criticisms of the show, he did write a lot of the stronger episodes in the series, particularly the season finales and the ones that focused on Sayid (the most interesting character on the show). So I can't really see the ALIEN set-up of a band of humans encountering an extraterrestrial threat working for PROMETHEUS. I think it's going to be much, much deeper than that.

Univex

Have you read the synopsis that some sites proclaimed to be true Shadow? Just curious of course. So far, everything I´ve seen seems to confirm said synopsis, which was more of a comprehensive explanation of the whole film, top to bottom, begining to end. Still, maybe it was all fan-made. Do you know of the text I´m refering to?

Univex

Also, why is this topic in the Skyfall area of the forums?

Baltimore_007

Eh?, I must have dropped off

Is J Wild back from suspension?, or was this first posted December 22 last year :-/

In any event it may have ties to Alien/s but I never really liked the original films with Sigourney Weaver and all the different actors from 1979 onwards, so I don't really feel this upcoming release would be of any real motivation, and Yes, this should not be categorized in Skyfall either

What 'is' going on

shadowonthesun

Univex said:
Have you read the synopsis that some sites proclaimed to be true Shadow? Just curious of course. So far, everything I´ve seen seems to confirm said synopsis, which was more of a comprehensive explanation of the whole film, top to bottom, begining to end. Still, maybe it was all fan-made. Do you know of the text I´m refering to?

Yes, I have read it, and I'm pretty sure it was fan-made. I believe PROMETHEUS was originally going to be an ALIEN prequel, and the news was taken very poorly from fans (particularly after ALIEN 3 and RESURRECTION), especially when the prebootquel (half-reboot, half-prequel) of John Carpenter's THE THING was already being made. The treatment appeared shortly after that, and it was probably a fan thing designed to demonstrate just how bad an idea the film would be. But then Ridley Scott was attached to the project, and it steadily started to drift away from the original concept of a straight prequel to become a story set in the same universe and the complaints died down.

But then Scott's last film was ROBIN HOOD, and something similar happened. The script was originally titled NOTTINGHAM, and focused on the Sherriff of Nottingham, making him out to be an anti-hero who tried to stop Robin Hood because he was concerned that Hood's vigilante streak would only encourage others, and the situation would escalate to violence. Scott came in and changed all of that, and we got a "gritty", soulless reboot of Robin Hood instead. Although I think Russell Crowe had a hand in that, because he wanted to play Robin Hood, but he didn't want Hood to be made out to be a menace.

Univex

Yep, that mirrors my feelings about Ridley since he fell in love with Crowe, wipped. But then again, he always had ups and downs in his career. Like making Runner and then Legend. The Nottingham film could have been something special. Still, let´s hope Prometheus doesn´t suffer from the same symptoms of Hood: boring, "seen this, done that", blah, blah. Even if I did enjoy it at the time, I still can recall better Kevin Costner´s version, and I guess that says a lot about Ridley´s film.

gt007

Wow, great news about Skyfall! No, wait a minute.... (wrong section, @j7wild ;) )

MajorDSmythe

As this isn't Skyfall News & Spoilers, i've moved it to General Movies & Tv.

I'm awesome, I know.

Agent007391

I love how, even if it's not a "true" prequel to the Alien films, it has the feel of the original Alien plastered all over it.

shadowonthesun

It will be a prequel in the sense that the origins of the xenomorphs will be explained. It will not be a prequel in the respect that the xenomorphs only form a tiny part of the story. I've heard rumours that the story will be inspired by HP Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness, and I'm seeing a lot of Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey in the central premise.

As for the xenomorphs, they will appear in the film, but not as we know them. Ridley Scott feels that they have lost all credibility now that there is a xenomorph parading around Walt Disney World. Instead, there will supposedly be an early form of xenomorph in the story (xenomorphs acquire the physiology of their hosts, and so will evolve concurrently with whatever prey they find).

Agent007391

There's a Xenomorph running around Disney World? And little kids are not wetting themselves constantly and causing their parents to sue the place?!

shadowonthesun

Yes, there's a xenomorph in Orlando. It's part of the parade of film characters. Since there have been no reports of children being terrified and the place being sued, it's obviously been dumbed down - kind of like Blofeld/Dr. Evil - to fit in with the place.

Seriously, Abed's xenomorph costume in the "Community" episode Epidemiology (which was basolutely brilliant) was scarier than the xenomorph at Walt Disney World.

Agent007391

Damn you Walt Disney for two things: cryogenically freezing yourself and destroying my film icons by family-friending them at your theme parks.

SaintMark

Bambi still gets to me every time. Those heartless basterds at Disney.........

Agent007391

I still hate them for making me laugh with Toy Story.

shadowonthesun

A fifteen-paragraph treatment of the story has been leaked online, though I personally am not buying into it - it contains far too many elements of William Gibson's original draft for ALIEN 3.

Agent007391

Unless it's video, I never believe anything that's been "leaked" online. Any fan can write up some BS and post it online like it's been "leaked".

Bond_Ed

More Prometheus trailers are up on You Tube.... go and check them out ! !

Back in the day, when Alien came out, before the Web and i-phones.... you just knew you had to go and see Alien, by the fantastic "word-of-mouth" recommendations.

Few movies prior to that had created the kind of buzz on the street that Alien had.

The Exorcist did. Jaws did. 2001:A Space Odyssey did. Star Wars did.

I remember seeing Alien at one of the few large single screen theaters left in Dallas, The Medallion, where it was shown as an exclusive engagment in the summer of 1979.

The Saturday night crowd packed the theater. There were no cell phones then, but what I do recall is that everyone in the audience sat spellbound, watching Alien. There was no looking down or filddling with things or "chatting" with their friends.... And because it was a night show, there were no crying babies, or really any children in the theater. Very few people got up and left for a bathroom break.

It was one of those rare, magical times when seeing a movie was an "experience".

Perhaps this Ridley Scott presentation will indeed live up to that high expectation.

The music played with the Prometheus trailers made me think of the group, The Crystal Method, that had it's music used in several Sc-Fi films...

"Busy Child"

RogueAgent

seriously looking forward to seeing this movie! :D

bondsum

I'm more stoked for Prometheus than I am for Skyfall.

I too recall the same experience as Bond_Ed, though I actually saw the very first matinee showing of ALIEN in the UK, which was sadly 4 months after the US release and by that time we'd already had the spoilers on the scary scenes. Still, it didn't ruin the pleasure of watching it on the big screen and in stereo!!

(I have so much memorabilia from this film that it is second to my Bond collection!!)

Master_Dahark

Someone sell me on this movie. I haven't been following it like alot of people- all I've heard is that it's 'sort of' an Alien prequel. And it's a BIG SPACE movie. What's the deal with this movie? Why is it so big?
I have seen the trailer but that's it

boldfinger

Master_Dahark said:
Someone sell me on this movie. I haven't been following it like alot of people- all I've heard is that it's 'sort of' an Alien prequel. And it's a BIG SPACE movie. What's the deal with this movie? Why is it so big?
I have seen the trailer but that's it

There was quite a lot of talk in the past about it having a really weird script, what with the space jockeys from the first Alien film having human slaves and by kind of a mind control force two guys to make love with one another. If that´s at all in the movie it doesn´t seem to be a big element. At least that´s what I gather from the trailers and the viral clips.
What I can say for sure is that I´m pretty much hooked by the trailers and the clips.

Probably just for marketing and not in the film, but pretty cool:

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