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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    The LALD novel is also full of things that one ought to benevolently ignore these days. Those were different times, and keeping that in mind one can still enjoy the book. But if it came out today, much would be unacceptably racist. And I'll leave the "sexist" angle to some other discussion.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    I don't remember exactly, and I don't feel like re-reading the LALD novel again just to find out, but I seem to remember that Mr. Big was described as being smart only because he was not just a "Negro", but because he had some French blood or whatever it was in him. I thought that was pretty strong stuff, and the "blaxploitation" angle in the LALD movie that people objected to was child's play in comparison.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    josiah wrote: »
    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    Perhaps you simply don't have a sense of humour ?, If some very obvious jokes have to
    Be explained ? .... Might be best to move on and forget about it.

    @Thunderpussy Or perhaps I just have a different sense of humor than you do that isn't inferior or superior but simply different.
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I'm a chigro.
    Aren't we all.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Based on what I have read, Miss Taro was not intended to be played as a Chinese woman. She was supposed to be an "exotic" woman, whatever the heck that meant, but her national origin wasn't ever really explicitly known.

    When YOLT opens, and Bond is in bed with a Chinese woman and even makes a crack about her "tasting different"...holy cow, that must have driven some audience members nuts.

    I am certain there is research out there on this.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    TripAces wrote: »
    When YOLT opens, and Bond is in bed with a Chinese woman and even makes a crack about her "tasting different"...holy cow, that must have driven some audience members nuts.
    One of my favourite scenes from the film, and Connery shows why he's the best here. Nobody could deliver it with such aplomb. I too love Peking Duck and Russian Caviar.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Sean's the only Bond I believe could actually get that many women from across the world.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    @Birdleson, what was your reaction for that inclusion the first time you read Dr. No?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    What I don't get is that making such distinctions is already called 'racist', whilest it sure isn't. Or we wouldn't have any discription possible at all. When you use it to generally talk people down it's racist, not by just mentioning their ancestry.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Has anyone else seen this? I was watching CR 2 days ago and I only just noticed one of the players at the poker table makes the sign of the cross as the game starts.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Has anyone else seen this? I was watching CR 2 days ago and I only just noticed one of the players at the poker table makes the sign of the cross as the game starts.

    Haha, that's cool. Guess the prayer didn't work too well.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    At the 12 seconds mark.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Well i never noticed that before...a funny thing for someone to do when they are about to commit a sin in gambling.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Well i never noticed that before...a funny thing for someone to do when they are about to commit a sin in gambling.

    I was going to post that as I first read it. There's not many places less apropos for doing a cross at than a casino.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Well i never noticed that before...a funny thing for someone to do when they are about to commit a sin in gambling.

    I was going to post that as I first read it. There's not many places less apropos for doing a cross at than a casino.

    Makes me wonder why they put that in the film,it could be quite offensive to a number of religious groups as well as just believers.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Well i never noticed that before...a funny thing for someone to do when they are about to commit a sin in gambling.

    I was going to post that as I first read it. There's not many places less apropos for doing a cross at than a casino.

    Makes me wonder why they put that in the film,it could be quite offensive to a number of religious groups as well as just believers.

    Considering nobody caught that until now I think they got away with it! ;)

    But I agree, it's such a barely there thing (and from a character that I don't think we even see in close-up) that you have to wonder: a) why they introduced the gesture at all, and b) why nobody said, nah, let's not do that during the take.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Well i never noticed that before...a funny thing for someone to do when they are about to commit a sin in gambling.

    I was going to post that as I first read it. There's not many places less apropos for doing a cross at than a casino.

    Makes me wonder why they put that in the film,it could be quite offensive to a number of religious groups as well as just believers.

    If people get offended by something like that, they should be the ones praying: for thicker skin.

    I love these little blink and you miss it moments in the Bond films where clever extras add a little something to their minor character to make them entertaining. It adds a whole new layer to a random character just by what that actor did at the card table in their seconds of camera time.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    I think he is Gallardo, played by Argentinian Charlie Levi Leroy.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Some do it for luck, many sports people do it.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Ups, not Gallardo, but Kaminofsky, played by Serbian Lazar Ristovski

    http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2006_Casino_Royale/006CSR_Lazar_Ristovski_001.jpg
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    edited May 2017 Posts: 7,969
    royale65 wrote: »
    There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

    Oh I loathe the Dutch!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2017 Posts: 23,883
    In QoS in the car in Haiti, Camille asks Bond if 'Dominic' gave him any trouble. He says no, even though he has no clue at that moment who she's talking about.

    Later on the boat, she shouts at him that he's not one of 'Greene's'. He then says "Dominic Greene?" in a questioning manner.

    I just realized today that he remembered the 'Dominic' that she mentioned earlier in the car and then made an assumption that she was talking about the same man when she said 'Greene' on the boat. It was a lucky guess on his part to put the two names together, and a nice touch by the writers.
  • GettlerGettler
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    bondjames wrote: »
    In QoS in the car in Haiti, Camille asks Bond if 'Dominic' gave him any trouble. He says no, even though he has no clue at that moment who she's talking about.

    Later on the boat, she shouts at him that he's not one of 'Greene's'. He then says "Dominic Greene?" in a questioning manner.

    I just realized today that he remembered the 'Dominic' that she mentioned earlier in the car and then made an assumption that she was talking about the same man when she said 'Greene' on the boat. It was a lucky guess on his part to put the two names together, and a nice touch by the writers.

    I wondered how he got the name. I thought maybe Bond heard of Greene Planet before but this makes more sense.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Yes that's right x he heard both half of the names at different times...I spotted that from the start,and thought it a nice touch - clever writing.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Good film that! That's also how he knows it is Dominic Greene when he's talking to Tanner. I think. iirc.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Bond is a clever chap.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    bondjames wrote: »
    In QoS in the car in Haiti, Camille asks Bond if 'Dominic' gave him any trouble. He says no, even though he has no clue at that moment who she's talking about.

    Later on the boat, she shouts at him that he's not one of 'Greene's'. He then says "Dominic Greene?" in a questioning manner.

    I just realized today that he remembered the 'Dominic' that she mentioned earlier in the car and then made an assumption that she was talking about the same man when she said 'Greene' on the boat. It was a lucky guess on his part to put the two names together, and a nice touch by the writers.

    I think somebody a while ago was talking about Bond finding out the name of Greene at different times, but they explained it in a way that confused me. Now, I know what they were talking about.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Blimey was i the only Bond Nerd that got it from the start....?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    No, I was also a nerd.
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