Bond movie timeline.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    If you were to put the bond movie's in a chronological order what would your list be. It may be easier to do this list according to events in the movie's. An obvious fixed point would be tracys death or felix being attacked by a shark. Maybe wise to dismiss the age of the actor playing bond at time of each movie.
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
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    Is this like a "your ideal bond film timeline" where we pick the actors and movies?
  • Agent007391Agent007391
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    Original series:
    DN
    FRWL
    GF
    TB
    YOLT
    OHMSS
    DAF
    LALD
    TMWTGG
    TSWLM
    MR
    FYEO
    OP
    AVTAK
    TLD
    LTK
    GE
    TND
    TWINE
    DAD

    Reboot series:
    CR
    QOS
    BS (Blood Stone)
    GE2010
    SF

    What's so difficult about that?
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Dr_Metz said:

    Is this like a "your ideal bond film timeline" where we pick the actors and movies?



    Yeah pal, is it a topic thats been done?
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
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    fire_and_ice said:

    Dr_Metz said:

    Is this like a "your ideal bond film timeline" where we pick the actors and movies?



    Yeah pal, is it a topic thats been done?

    Not as far as I know.
  • Samuel001Samuel001
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    This is a new topic, to this board, anyway. Maybe a check through the archives wouldn't hurt just to be certain. I'm on it.
  • StevenSteven
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    I can't think of all of them but I always liked the idea of the GE pre-titles being at one moment in time and then a whole dose of the other films come during the 9-year gap before the main part of GoldenEye continues.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Tricky one will be bond meeting felix, bond meets felix for the first time in two movie's.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Steven said:

    I can't think of all of them but I always liked the idea of the GE pre-titles being at one moment in time and then a whole dose of the other films come during the 9-year gap before the main part of GoldenEye continues.



    That's a good point, different part's of a film could be separated by several other movie's. We know where bond made his first kill and got his 00 status. pre title sequence of CR at the moment is my starting point.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    1. Casino Royale- an obvious choice
    2. Quantum of Solace- as a direct sequal to CR, it must be done
    3. Dr. No- forget about M asking if he knows Leiter, let's assume that Bond just didn't know that Leiter was on the case in DN
    4. From Russia with Love- Sylvia Trench and Kronsteen's comment about Dr. No make this a must
    5. Thunderball- staying consistent with SPECTRE
    6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    7. You Only Live Twice- reason for being after #6 is because of the well-debated goof that Bond had already met Blofeld, so it makes no sense that Blofeld didn't recognize him in OHMSS, so this fixes that
    8. Diamonds Are Forever
    9. Live and Let Die- with SPECTRE out of the way, now trying to stay in line with the novels' timeline
    10. Moonraker
    11. Goldfinger
    12. A View to a Kill
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. The Spy Who Loved Me
    15. The Man with the Golden Gun
    16. Octopussy
    17. The Living Daylights
    18. License to Kill
    19. GoldenEye- now following the movie series' chronological order
    20. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. The World is not Enough
    22. Die Another Day
    23. Never Say Never Again- Bond is older, new M re-activating the 00's
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
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    I still don't get this. Are we just rearranging the Bond films in our reality to make a different timeline, like what 00Beast did above me, or are we creating an alternate universe with different Bond films? Like making Lazenby stay for DAF or something?
  • Agent005Agent005
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    Samuel001 said:

    This is a new topic, to this board, anyway. Maybe a check through the archives wouldn't hurt just to be certain. I'm on it.



    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/9020#Comment_9020
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
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    Agent005 said:

    Samuel001 said:

    This is a new topic, to this board, anyway. Maybe a check through the archives wouldn't hurt just to be certain. I'm on it.



    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/9020#Comment_9020


    Should we use that one?

  • 00Beast00Beast
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    Dr_Metz said:

    I still don't get this. Are we just rearranging the Bond films in our reality to make a different timeline, like what 00Beast did above me, or are we creating an alternate universe with different Bond films? Like making Lazenby stay for DAF or something?



    There is a discussion for the latter, but for this one, it's rearranging the movies based just on what order you would have liked them to be in. Quite frankly, all I did was put them in Ian Fleming's novels order, and rearrange any plot holes (YOLT and OHMSS) and keep the SPECTRE movies close together.
  • Agent005Agent005
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    The thread I just linked to has it both ways. Might as well consolidate the topic.
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
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    00Beast said:

    Dr_Metz said:

    I still don't get this. Are we just rearranging the Bond films in our reality to make a different timeline, like what 00Beast did above me, or are we creating an alternate universe with different Bond films? Like making Lazenby stay for DAF or something?



    There is a discussion for the latter, but for this one, it's rearranging the movies based just on what order you would have liked them to be in. Quite frankly, all I did was put them in Ian Fleming's novels order, and rearrange any plot holes (YOLT and OHMSS) and keep the SPECTRE movies close together.

    You just basically did the perfect rearranging, so that part of the thread can't really go anywhere else.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    That's a pretty good list 00beast! Metz its taking all events that have happened in the movie's and making a list of how they slot in along side each other. There won't be a definitive right way of doing it, will have to be creative to a extent. Been a while since i watched all the brosnan movie's. can't remember if there is any reference to Brosnans bond having been married? was there in TWINE?
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
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    fire_and_ice said:

    That's a pretty good list 00beast! Metz its taking all events that have happened in the movie's and making a list of how they slot in along side each other. There won't be a definitive right way of doing it, will have to be creative to a extent. Been a while since i watched all the brosnan movie's. can't remember if there is any reference to Brosnans bond having been married? was there in TWINE?

    So we aren't making timelines where Connery did OHMSS, and stuff like that.

  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Was focusing on bond himself in the movie's not the actors who played bond. example first time bond met felix was CR or DN, last time bond saw felix could have been LTK. We can be creative and decide where these events would take place on the bond movie timeline we each decide to come up with. though having read that a similar topic has been done (cheers for looking :) ) come up with your own idea's if you want to.
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
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    fire_and_ice said:

    Was focusing on bond himself in the movie's not the actors who played bond. example first time bond met felix was CR or DN, last time bond saw felix could have been LTK. We can be creative and decide where these events would take place on the bond movie timeline we each decide to come up with. though having read that a similar topic has been done (cheers for looking :) ) come up with your own idea's if you want to.

    If you mean what 00Beast did, he did the only alternate timeline, like what you said to do, that would make any sense. The idea is now null and void.

  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Not necessarily he used the Fleming novels, which was a good idea. I just meant the movie's, pre title sequence in FYEO bond may or may not have killed Blofeld. You may decide FYEO comes directly after OHMSS because of wheel chair and neck brace Blofeld is wearing. Maybe Blofeld survived his fall down the chimney and had reabilitation and returned in DAF later on. Just an example of how you may come up with a timeline.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    fire_and_ice said:

    That's a pretty good list 00beast! Metz its taking all events that have happened in the movie's and making a list of how they slot in along side each other. There won't be a definitive right way of doing it, will have to be creative to a extent. Been a while since i watched all the brosnan movie's. can't remember if there is any reference to Brosnans bond having been married? was there in TWINE?



    It's in GoldenEye, when Trevelyan says to Bond, "You find forgiveness in the arms of all those willing women, for all the dead ones you failed to protect." An obvious reference to Tracy, of course.

    Here's another list I compiled based on sequencing the endings with PTS's based solely on what I think would have been cool.

    (1) Casino Royale
    (2) Quantum of Solace
    (3) A View to a Kill- ending with Russia at the end of QoS, Bond gets a new assignment to go recover 003's dead body in Siberia
    (4) License to Kill- ending with California in AVTAK, Bond hears the news that Felix is getting married, and goes down to Florida to take part in the wedding
    (5) Goldfinger- ending LTK in some area in South America, Bond heads to another area in South America where M has reassigned him to MI6, giving him a mission to destroy a drug lab headed by Mr. Ramirez
    (6) Dr. No- heading back to England, Bond starts his newest mission
    (7) From Russia with Love
    (8) The Spy Who Loved Me- heading into Switzerland, Bond is assigned to check out a Russian troop squad in the Alps
    (9) The World is not Enough- after being rescued by the British Navy, M assigns Bond to take a short trip across the Mediterranean to Spain, where he will confront the banker Lachaise, who is connected with a dead MI6 agent and Sir Robert King
    (10) GoldenEye- taking a trip into Russia, Bond meets up with Alec Trevelyan 006 to destroy a Russian chemical plant
    (11) Octopussy- staying in Cuba, Bond is assigned to destroy a special plane kept under guard by the Cuban military
    (12) Die Another Day- going from the Indian Ocean to the Pacific Ocean, Bond heads into North Korea to stop a shipment of diamonds from reaching Colonel Moon
    (13) Diamonds Are Forever- staying in SouthEast Asia, Bond goes to Japan to hunt down Ernst Stavro Blofeld
    (14) You Only Live Twice- going to China, Bond continues the search for Blofeld, where he is set up to be killed to cover his tracks
    (15) On Her Majesty's Secret Service- continues the search for Blofeld
    (16) For Your Eyes Only- has his revenge on Blofeld for Tracy's murder
    (17) Live and Let Die- heads back to London for rest and recuperation, until getting new assignment
    (18) Tomorrow Never Dies- heads to the Khyber Pass to stop a terrorists arms bazaar
    (19) The Man with the Golden Gun
    (20) The Living Daylights
    (21) Moonraker- heads back to London from North Africa
    (22) Thunderball- no reason here, just realized I hadn't used it
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Ill try do my list on friday, been a busy week at work this week. i like when tracy's relationship is mentioned in a subtle and brief manner.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    fire_and_ice said:

    Ill try do my list on friday, been a busy week at work this week. i like when tracy's relationship is mentioned in a subtle and brief manner.



    Yeah, especially in TSWLM, when Bond gets mad at Anya for bringing it up. I love that part!The one in GoldenEye is also really good, but we don't get Bond's reaction to that very much. Another goodie is in LTK, when Della brings it up after the wedding, and Bond leaves in depressed mood.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    The scene at the beginning of FYEO is a mixed bag when he visits tracy's grave. i always thought that was a device for the bond people just to create a scenario in order to say that's it for blofeld, that type off bond is gone, here is john glens more down to earth bond.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    fire_and_ice said:

    The scene at the beginning of FYEO is a mixed bag when he visits tracy's grave. i always thought that was a device for the bond people just to create a scenario in order to say that's it for blofeld, that type off bond is gone, here is john glens more down to earth bond.



    Personally, I think that the revenge on Blofeld could have been done at the end of FYEO. Say that Kristatos had certain information which Bond found out, regarding payments he made to SPECTRE long ago, and a certain converstaion he had with Blofeld recently. Then Bond could have gotten the information out of Kristatos and then hunted down Blofeld at the end of the movie, and had a better way of killing him than the cheesy smokestack.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Not sure if eon had the rights to use spectre and blofeld at the time of FYEO. though i agree with your thinking would have been better if blofeld did not have a cheapened role in the movie. going back to the rights, i don't think blofeld name is used in the movie, as a viewer we assume its him. well its obvious its him Lol
  • echoecho
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    00Beast said:

    fire_and_ice said:

    That's a pretty good list 00beast! Metz its taking all events that have happened in the movie's and making a list of how they slot in along side each other. There won't be a definitive right way of doing it, will have to be creative to a extent. Been a while since i watched all the brosnan movie's. can't remember if there is any reference to Brosnans bond having been married? was there in TWINE?



    It's in GoldenEye, when Trevelyan says to Bond, "You find forgiveness in the arms of all those willing women, for all the dead ones you failed to protect." An obvious reference to Tracy, of course.


    Could be read as a reference to Tracy, but just as easily could apply to Jill, Tilly, Aki, etc.

    I think the more direct reference to Tracy is in TWINE, when Elektra asks Bond, "Have you ever lost a loved one?" and Bond does not answer.
  • MrBondMrBond
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    My Timeline is like this:

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Quantum Of Solace
    3. Bloodstone
    4. Skyfall
    5. Dr. No
    6. From Russia With Love
    7. The Living Daylights
    8. Goldfinger
    9. Thunderball
    10. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    11. You Only Live Twice
    12. Diamonds Are Forever
    13. Live And Let Die
    14. The Man With The Golden Gun
    15. Licence To Kill
    16. The Spy Who Loved Me
    17. Moonraker
    18. Goldeneye PTS
    19. For Your Eyes Only
    20. Octopussy
    21. Goldeneye
    22. Tomorrow Never Dies
    23. The World Is Not Enough
    24. Agent Under Fire
    25. Nightfire
    26. Die Another Day
    27. Everything Or Nothing
    28. A View To A Kill
    29. Never Say Never Again
  • doubleohdaddoubleohdad
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    My timeline begins with Doctor No, excludes the Moore and Lazenby films and concludes with Never Say Never again.
  • MrBondMrBond
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    doubleohdad said:

    My timeline begins with Doctor No, excludes the Moore and Lazenby films and concludes with Never Say Never again.



    So your timeline does not even involve Dalton, Brosnan or Craig?
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